have the land claimers won?
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Topic: have the land claimers won?
Posted By: twilights
Subject: have the land claimers won?
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2015 at 22:59
| watching the war reports and reading the forums it looks like the land claimers won....congrats...any others care to chime in their thoughts? and thanks again in trying to change the path of the game...now only if the devs start getting active improving the game...... |
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Posted By: KarL Aegis
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 00:06
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What did they win? ------------- I am not amused. |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 06:35
The Mal Motshans would be proud.
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Posted By: Wartow
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2015 at 16:07
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When I look at the alliance rankings, for whatever they are worth, I see many of the top 20 alliances (in terms of land and pop), are not involved in this skirmish. What say you big alliances? Does the land claim bother you? Does the general growth, clustering, and confederation of these claiming alliances pose a threat to you in the future? Did the claiming actually "out" some of these alliances as threats to be dealt with in the future due to their efficiency and organization in the game? Did you expect anything else from a group with LoU (Lord of Ultima) in their past that required such intense efficiency and organization to achieve an end game victory? How does that mentality continue to play out in Illyriad where there is no end game? I probably should have saved this for an editorial piece in the Illy Times... I would be more likely to receive responses. \/\/artow ------------- 
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Posted By: DeliciousJosh
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2015 at 16:14
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Some good thoughts their Wartow. All your observations are pretty solid. ------------- PublicRelations HumanResources |
Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2015 at 16:37
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personally I believe the failure of stomp was the additional ability of having over ten cities in an account with no population decrease between nine and ten...no additional high population buildings were added.....a lot of us have a very strange building mix in our cities...we playing a very slanted game....also there have been no additional war functions and the ones in game were introduced when the game play was very different....few want to war cause of time involvement required...many players have adopted the wait to play mentality similar to the devs roll out of promised functions....thanks to both sides and especially to pico in providing entertainment. |
Posted By: Wartow
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2015 at 16:16
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Interestingly... I've been called out in GC for this post, as if I am trying to create a coalition to begin an offensive against the Land Claiming alliances. While I do oppose the idea of the land claim in its current form, I've mentioned elsewhere in the forums my points of concern, I have not extended or opened any private or public conversations to start a campaign of aggression. The purpose of my response was to determine that which has been settled by the conflict and the STOMP surrender. Of course the alliances involved will have one opinion and those observing it all may have another. Who would you like to hear from on this matter? No offense to my friends in CAVE, T?, SITH, but these alliances, and likely MOON as well, aren't capable of doing any more than voicing an opinion on the matter. If nothing is said, which may be all the wiser, then what has been determined is yet unknown and frankly tensions and opinions will continue to rise and flow... I guess that was in part the point of the Land Claim to encourage PvP in the BL as much as it was demarcate territory for planned growth of an alliance. \/\/artow -------------
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Posted By: EristaMae
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2015 at 16:28
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What actually HAS been gained or lost by this war between pro-land claimers and those against?? Land claimers are still claiming, alliances are still conversing about the "change " in the game. MOON (including Wartow) are as justified in voicing an opinion as anyone in this game. Might I remind players that MOON has made their opinion on land claims clear on our alliance summary page. Why can we not discuss? Why can we not debate? Why can we not put our opinions forward? Why can we not ask questions? We have as much right to voice an opinion as anyone in the Illy membership. We have no axe to grind with anyone and I believe that no alliance should have any axe to grind with us. SO please - take this as a conversation point and nothing else. As an aside? i do believe that Wartow's comments are thought provoking and a little outside of the box - but that is Wartow and Wartow is awesome LOL  |
Posted By: jcx
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 07:31
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Oh Yeah! love seeing your reply on Wartow's post Erista Mae.. :) ------------- Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day. jcx in H? | orcboy in H? |
Posted By: Myr
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 19:07
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I think this war illustrated how effective a method of defense the clustering of an alliance is. While the members of SIN are excellent at warfare I think it would have been an entirely different battle had they been fighting an alliance that was also clustered in a land claim for defense. I did not take the time to look at the location of every city lost, but I think a majority of those that fell on both sides were outside of an area where the alliance could defend efficiently. Many alliance profiles state that they are there to play peacefully but will defend themselves if need be. For those alliances I ask why would you not want to have a homeland cluster when it has proven to be an effective means of defense? Personally, I like that Elgea doesn't have land claims, of all the battles and wars I have been in the most fun was when I got to fight Valar. We were interspersed with many of their members and the close proximity made it possible to wake up and find that you had been attacked or raided overnight. It kept you on your toes and was a lot of fun! It suits my person play style at this time but I will not force my preference on anyone else. There is room on the map for all kinds of play in the game. |
Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 23:28
| I don't know if you can call it a pure win. Many land claim alliances have modified or abandoned their claims after the war against Stomps. Obviously the Hashashin actually won the war and made no concessions. The concept of claims will probably be debated until Christmas, partly because a few people have strong opinions on the subject, and partly because (let's be honest here) the land claim skirmish is probably the only interesting thing that happened in Illyriad this summer. |
Posted By: Ptolemy
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2015 at 23:28
| Land Claiming is the next step of PVP. |
Posted By: jcx
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 06:23
^ this issue was way back several months ago. What is latest is? Today is a pure challenge of a 1 alliance vs 1 alliance. but it didn't not happened because it appears that it was 2 against 1. I've heard of rumors that it will become 3 against 1. ------------- Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day. jcx in H? | orcboy in H? |
Ptolemy wrote:Posted By: jcx
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 06:26
Indeed, because they are the only successful alliance who defended their land claim.  ------------- Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day. jcx in H? | orcboy in H? |
Posted By: Ptolemy
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 02:47
The rumours have been confirmed.
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