WAR
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Forum Name: Elgea
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Topic: WAR
Posted By: Wite
Subject: WAR
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2015 at 22:22
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We start with one yes, what will your vote be? ------------- |
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Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2015 at 23:18
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Well, fighting within the rules is cool, but the usual war really fast is accompanied by ugly forum slanders and more RL invading time management than I can/want to cope with... ...thus a 80%ical "No" from me as far as I'm concerned with the fighting... anyone else is free to do as much war between warliking people as he wants =)
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Posted By: Kavenmetack
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2015 at 00:35
| Why is a person from T? asking this question? |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2015 at 02:36
| Next thing you know they are going to send engraved invitations to sieges. |
Posted By: Jejune
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2015 at 23:04
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The fact that so few voted in this poll is a vote unto itself.
. . . but hey, the recipe forum thread got tons of activity! ------------- https://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/394156" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Elias_Knight
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 04:23
Wait I thought you were already supposed to do that? I now know why my sieges encounter so much resistance! |
Rill wrote:Posted By: Fiona
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 15:05
Why not ask this question? Its a valid question, War is fun. But no one seems to want to do it. Even a WoW is impossible to get any takers. I mean, you're only out some troops and stone. Why not play every aspect of the game? Its there, use it. Why build troops if you don't use them? Fiona
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Posted By: Orin
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 15:26
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I second fiona's statement. I'd planned a couple of WoW, even though i would like peace, some friendly skirmishes are good. Unfortunately I had to pull out of these
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Posted By: Halcyon
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 15:43
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I believe that the main reason that prevent even a War of Walls is that in Illy there is no prior knowledge when a tournament is coming so many alliances tend to save their troops just in case. I know that there is some value for surprise tournaments, but prior knowledge would allow a much more dynamic use of troops.
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Posted By: Gragnog
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 16:32
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The reason people do not like war in Elgea is because they take things personally and think this game is somehow related to real life. There is also the mob mentality where everyone gets sucked into kicking the loser to pieces and rejoice while doing it. Live with it. People wanting to take things personally should stay in Elgea and those who actually came here to enjoy a war game should move to BL. That way Elgean conflicts can continue the way things have been in the past and those wanting a more fun approach and not thinking it is the end of the world when war breaks out should move to BL. ------------- Kaggen is my human half |
Posted By: Thorgrim
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 16:33
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Yes. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/260239" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 18:43
That's the main reason I would decline. Plus such an exercise would burn a lot of gold and resources, and my sov would be on troops instead of items. I wouldn't want the tournament supplies to run low. |
Posted By: Stukahh
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 20:45
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Are you guys talking about the Cooking Tournament? I thought we stopped using troops in Illyraid a long time ago.  ------------- I don't always drink. But when I do, I prefer the blood of my enemies. |
Posted By: Fiona
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 21:16
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May i ask, just for arguments sake, how many tournaments have there been, in the 5 years this game has been live? I know the last one had just ended when I started playing. So thats 9 months. What if the next one isn't for another 9 months? Or 12 months...and so on. So just keep building and building and eating gold? For a year? 2 years? Seems like a waste.... Fiona
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Posted By: Stukahh
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2015 at 21:52
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There have been 8. However the last 3 years I think just 3 ------------- I don't always drink. But when I do, I prefer the blood of my enemies. |
Posted By: Gragnog
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2015 at 14:46
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Hence my comment, if you want to continue the petty excuses for not wanting a war or fun, such as tournaments, or things get nasty, or such, then stay in Elgea and wait for your tournaments. If you are keen to test your skills and wits and want some actually real fun, move to BL. Let Elgea remain as it is and let us all stop trying to change the way they want to play there. I am just hoping that those with that mindset stay in Elgea and do not try impose that same boring mindset on those people who have moved to BL. ------------- Kaggen is my human half |
Posted By: Halcyon
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2015 at 16:23
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You moved to BL, but what exactly are you doing there? I'm not writing this in criticism, just in curiosity: You have collected in SIN some of the best military minded, PVP players in the game (some would say: "The Best"). You had 1 war against RE which I gather you enjoyed and have naturally won. Now what? Who are you going to fight next? if you have a secret plan, then by all means keep it to yourself, but it seems to me that if you really want to war, you're best interests lie in cultivating your own opponants. Right now SIN seems to be deterring war in BL. Who will dare to fight you? In fact, who is there to fight?
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Posted By: Diva
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2015 at 16:56
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geeeeeeeeeeez, Grag, the war of YOUR words almost moved me to reply. ------------- "Um diva.... you are sort of acting like a .... diva...." - PhoenixFire |
Posted By: Gragnog
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2015 at 19:43
Thank you for reinforcing my point about the difference between Elgean and BL mentaliy. You still dwell in the Elgean way of things and hence I repeat best stay there till you start to think about this as a fun game. The RE vs SIN war was a fun war as far as I understand it with no victors and no massive humiliation or surrender demands, and no account destruction. As to the secret plans, to my knowledge there are none. Again an Elgean way of thinking making everything seem SINister. We have had a few wars here now and many have been arranged. Fun has been had and lessons learned. We try not to sit and look for threats under stones and make secret deals with people to try and ensure dominance. We know we only occupy a small part of BL and we are very happy with that. ------------- Kaggen is my human half |
Posted By: Jejune
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2015 at 23:38
I agree with that Grag said, though Halcyon might have a point that SIN has perhaps developed its military slightly faster than some of the other alliances in the BL. I'm really not sure. Our only experience in fighting another BL alliance was with RE, and the bulk of their military was centered around maybe 6-7 players. One point about the RE war; I would not characterize it as a "fun war" in the sense that it was tournament-like or staged simply to purge troops. It was waged for strategic purposes. It was "fun" in the sense that 1) it didn't become a pig-pile and have a bunch of escalation, 2) neither side took any kind of self-righteous posture and tried to sway public sentiment one way or another, 3) it was fun trash-talking in GC along with the blow-by-blow of the war, 4) when 1 through 3 happen in a war in Illy, it's FUNN! It was just nice to have a one-on-one fight because, after all, no one else really had a stake in that war, anyway. ------------- https://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/394156" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: jcx
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2015 at 02:07
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I respect both sides, those who do not want to go to war and those go wanted it. Most of the alliances has it own goals that they wanted to achieve, going to war might be a barrier on achieving those goals. To those who wants war - war declaration button is always open for you to click on. :) ------------- Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day. jcx in H? | orcboy in H? |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 01 May 2015 at 06:42
| Well said jcx |