War Games-A Player Run Tournament
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Topic: War Games-A Player Run Tournament
Posted By: NoneTooBright
Subject: War Games-A Player Run Tournament
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2014 at 14:03
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Hello all. I am writing this as a reference for all to see, apparently. For those who do not know, Ghannima and myself are to do battle. Originally, it was to be a 1v1 WoW type fight. However, the news has gotten out and lots of people wish to join the fray. I, for one, am eager to participate in such a battle with large groups involved. It will be one huge war in a battle to protect just two walls, nobody loses a city or gets knocked out of the game. In a nutshell, it can simply come to be a friendly multi-alliance war (excluding BL, since our cities are in Elgea). So with that said, I would ask that alliance leaders and DEVs take a look at this and give me their thoughts if not support. The reason as to why I set up this post, as aforementioned, is to gain the support as well as wisdom of the alliance leaders and the DEVs on the following conditions of the War Games: 1. Each participating alliance are to wager 100 million in gold as an entry fee. This gold will be transeferred to a Neutral and trusted alliance or player for safe keeping, to prevent anyone trying to skip out on their wager and to keep any one participating alliance from taking it all and doing what they will. The grand total will be presented to the winning side of the War Games and split up fairly amongst the alliances forming that particular team. 2. I ask that the DEVs make a medal or some type of award for the winning team. This is totally up for discussion, for I know that this is a huge request and perhaps I presume a little too much. 3. Each team should have a temporary alliance set up to have direct contact with their respective teammates. I do believe it will be hard to command all those armies through individual mailing and such.  Do note that I am not asking anyone to commit their full army. Ghannima and I, hopefully with the help of the many others, will set a limit on the number of troops per person. Also, none of these conditions are set in stone and are up for negotiations. I believe that is all, for now. |
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Posted By: TheBillPN
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2014 at 16:25
| I'll agree to be the Neutral Third Party and hold the gold for you as I will not be participating in the War Games. |
Posted By: Myr
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2014 at 00:36
| Is there a time frame for completion of the game? I think many would be hesitant to leave their alliances for too long a period of time even if it is for a fun fight. |
Posted By: NoneTooBright
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2014 at 00:45
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That is a very good question and it is one we have been working on since this morning. I will discuss it again tonight and then update the post with the time limit and troop limit. Also there will be a deadline on sign ups. Once we close, that is it. We will then proceed to separate participants into the two teams. I understand that nobody will want a drawn out fight and we have not one but two holidays coming up. I expect the fight itself to last no more than a week and half to two weeks, this includes landing times for the troops of the participants. Do remember that the battle is simply a WoW between two cities not each and every city we have. |
Posted By: jcx
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2014 at 05:03
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Great Job NoneTooBright! Alliance members can stay in the alliance and have a role of WAR GAMES Player, so no need for them to moved out from the alliance. Myr and Skint can be one of the Neutral Director for these WAR GAME.. Good job NTB. ------------- Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day. jcx in H? | orcboy in H? |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2014 at 10:36
Yep good job 
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Posted By: NoneTooBright
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2014 at 10:47
Hmm, I'll talk this over with Myr and Skint. Personally, I still think we will need direct contact. Maybe, it can work that way as well, though. It will be too much work to mail every single alliance leader or whomever to get orders across. Still, one cannot turn away a good suggestion without thinking on it. If anyone else has any suggestions, please speak up. I won't know what anyone wants, unless they tell me. Thanks! |
jcx wrote:Posted By: NoneTooBright
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2014 at 12:45
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Update: Troop Limit: 20k troops per account Starting Time: Recruitment for the War Games will close on Nov. 21 00:00:00 GMT////Due to Thanksgiving being in the following week after recruitment closes, we have decided to use that week to sort out the teams. The War Games will begin Nov. 28 00:00:00 GMT The Wager: The 100m gold entry fee has been dropped. It is understood that not every alliance willing to participate can afford this amount. We thought it would be a decent reward for the winners, but the amount is simply too much. BL: Attention, all people of the BL who are willing and able to participate are welcome to join the War Games. |
Posted By: mitu
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2014 at 15:42
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20k ? some player have 3/5 times of that each city .is not the 20k limit is a bit on the lower side just saying ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/External/player.asp?PlayerId=166544 |
Posted By: ghannima
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2014 at 16:27
| more then 20k and the small players can't participate... and the bigger ones will don't want to lose too many troops. |
Posted By: NoneTooBright
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 13:44
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Replying to Mitu's statement and reiterating Ghannima's statement: the 20k limit is small indeed, but it is as Ghannima says. It allows for the smaller players to join in and not feel pressured to supply way more than they can handle. At the same time, it allows the bigger players, whom we know are more than capable of dropping 20k troops with ease, to conserve their armies in the case of other business to tend to or the possible arrival of a DEV tourney. It's a win-win situation as I see it. One way around this particular limit though is simple, have an alternate account send another 20k and then you'd be fielding 40k troops. 20k is the set limit, that is all. UPDATE:Alliances for the two teams: Team Ghannima-will report to Crux Team NTB-will report to NS |
Posted By: Ubiquitous Feral
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2014 at 19:05
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Why not have a larger game? Limited to those smaller players who would consider your 20k idea a large force. They would perhaps need to temporarily quit an alliance, but they will be helped by a larger player within their alliance. The larger helper would not be able to directly participate in the game, but could offer res, wisdom and whatever the 'sandbox' allows, but no direct involvement. With this idea, not only would there be a smaller player winner, but the larger player would receive a certain standing by being the mentor of that winning player. This could be a 'hold-the-flag' tourney, or a scouting, spying tourney. It would work for any I believe. The larger mentors would have the added responsibilities of not allowing the games to devolve into all out war, since alliances not accustomed to working near each other may unintentionally 'brush shoulders'. They should be chosen carefully. ------------- Ubiquitous Feral |
Posted By: Gragnog
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 07:24
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Well done for coming up with this idea. Hope it takes off. To all those complaining about the army size, if you want to use bigger armies and make it impossible for the smaller players to take part go and start your own competition. This tournament was set up to accommodate the smaller players as well it seems and thus is a fantastic initiative. ------------- Kaggen is my human half |
Posted By: NoneTooBright
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 14:18
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Everything has been established now, I believe. Everything except who actually wants to participate. With that said, I say this: All who wish to join this endeavor should immediately begin posting here in the forums or mailing either Ghannima or myself(I would prefer in-game mailing). This is so that we can get a good grasp of the number of participants and then proceed to split them into teams. Thank you all for your support |
Posted By: jcx
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 14:25
You complain about troop size?? go ask gragnog for a pvp for sure he will not take down your offer..  ------------- Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day. jcx in H? | orcboy in H? |
Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 15:22
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As a derided warmonger, I must admit that I love this idea and I applaud the effort to keep it at a scale that allows smaller players to participate. It is the smaller ones who are likely to have little to no experience in Illy PvP and I am so happy to see this going forward. Since this is to be a WoW based tourney, once sieges land it will end quickly due to how easily walls tend to fall. It will be difficult to stop a siege in time without a seriously concerted effort. The way this is set up, with one target city on each side, it will be a real test of coordination and the generals have their work cut out for them. Good luck to all participants. ------------- |
Posted By: Ubiquitous Feral
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2014 at 18:05
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to jcx....This is not complaining, this is suggesting. Perhaps my limited knowledge of Illy wargames has contributed to this misunderstanding. ------------- Ubiquitous Feral |
Posted By: NoneTooBright
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2014 at 15:35
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The time for deciding whether you want to join or not is over at Nov. 21 00:00:00 GMT. Mail either Ghannima or myself for invites to alliance |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2014 at 06:58
| I missed this when it was first posted. Looks like great fun! |
Posted By: mitu
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2014 at 21:19
well exept he man and ditto i will gladly pvp anyone  ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/External/player.asp?PlayerId=166544 |
Posted By: jcx
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2014 at 13:46
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http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/boredom-and-the-sandbox_topic5996.html#83406 < Tupu check this forum post. :D ------------- Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day. jcx in H? | orcboy in H? |