War Discussions in GC
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Category: The World
Forum Name: Politics & Diplomacy
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Topic: War Discussions in GC
Posted By: HATHALDIR
Subject: War Discussions in GC
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 07:59
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Today i was blackmailed by Ropa in GC. He stated he would abandon his account if i did not stop talking about war in Global Chat. In the future there will be several chat channels, but currently there is only GC and your own alliance chat, if you belong to an alliance. If you do not like the topic being discussed, you have choices, block the people holding the discussion, or simply retire to your Allaince Chat. I have never been banned in Global Chat for behaivour or profanities, i have never followed up with some of the disgusting IGM's that i have received. I expect some of the conversations to be evocitive, because that is how i play Illyriad. So let it be known, i will not back down in Global Chat about the war. It is current to everything that going on at the moment, and sometimes the only way people will know what is going on. I assure by burying your head in the sand, war will not go away. In fact of all the detractors of war talk, i have never seen a mail offering a solution. So until war discussions are deemed against terms and conditions we will maintain our freedom of speech. ------------- There's worse blokes than me!! |
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Posted By: jcx
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 08:51
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why is it war discussion was banned in GC???
------------- Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day. jcx in H? | orcboy in H? |
Posted By: bansisdead
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 09:00
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Good on you Hath, stick by your guns. War is part of this game, blackmail and insulting/disgusting IGM's shouldn't be. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/124253" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Diomedes
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 09:01
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Quite right, too, Hath. As long as the terms and conditions are met, absolutely no player has the right to object to a civilised discussion or comment on any subject at all in GC. I congratulate you for standing up for your right as a player. ------------- "Walk in the way of the good, for the righteous will dwell in the land" |
Posted By: Corwin
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 11:58
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Why would you pay attention to someone threatening to abandon for something you say? let him abandon if he can't handle it. There's so much crap in GC I would have abandoned long time ago if I payed attention to it. I do think the war discussions are sometimes a bit to present, and people ramble on and on while they know the other sides opinion on the subject won't change. I just stop reading it when I get bored with it. People are free to talk about what they want, not what I'm intereseted in.
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Posted By: Angrim
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 13:06
civilised is key, and this one was. they are not always, and in those cases perhaps they ought to find another venue, but not because the topic is the war. |
Diomedes wrote:Posted By: Tamaeon
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 13:36
Well said Hath ------------- "How happy is the blameless vestal's lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind! Each prayer accepted, and each wish resigned." |
Posted By: The Electrocutioner
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 14:39
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OMG! I agree with Hath about something! ;) Although, I don't know if that counts as blackmail. Someone else abandoning isn't extracting something from you or harming from you. You're well within your rights to carry on and ignore a silly "threat" like that. On the other hand, I do like Ropa. Like many Illy peaceniks, he's a nice person with generally well meaning intentions. Hard to believe he was in Night Crusaders for a bit. I suspect he joined us with the intention of talking us out of whatever war we were in at the time. He gave it a good try, but we are way too hard-headed. I certainly don't agree with his tactic of threatening to abandon to stop war talk, but I hope you will cut him a little slack. He's a good guy.
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Posted By: scaramouche
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 17:53
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have to agree with Hath 100%...some people who don't want to talk about the war in GC seem to think they own GC and think they can dictate what can or cant be said....as far as im concerned anyone who threatens to abandon or quit because of certain talks can bloody well go ahead and quit as far as I'm concerned. IS THIS FACE BOTHERED  ------------- NO..I dont do the Fandango! |
Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 18:35
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Threatening to abandon is the Internet equivalent of a kid grabbing their ball and going home to mom. That said, GC has turned into a swamp of bad blood and lunatic accusations. Saying, "If you don't like it, leave," is the aggressive version of threatening to abandon, at least in my book. Just because nobody can stop misbehavior on the Internet, doesn't mean that these antics are mature or intelligent. Look, there is only one main chat channel in this game. Many of us play long-term because of the Illyriad community. When every single conversation gets derailed by angry people crashing in for unrelated server war trash talk (or prancey-dancey rubbish about bears), it gets frustrating for people just trying to have a normal social discussion. I've said it before, I'll say it again: the rest of us wish you guys would just shut up and fight. |
Posted By: Aurordan
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 18:44
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You can feel free to just go ahead and discuss around them. GC is more than capable of handling two conversations at once. I agree with Hath. This is pretty much what the channel was made for.
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Posted By: scaramouche
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 19:28
since the demise of the bitter sea, frustrations are vented through the forums in a more.... gentile way war talk IMO..Doesn't dictate GC..yes there are times when it crops up and yes...it ends as quickly as it starts non warring players have to understand sometimes the topic in GC will go onto the present war..for crying out loud ...its a major event in the history of ILLRIAD....some people have to understand you cannot simply brush events such as this under the carpet and pretend it isn't happening...so yea Ropa and others...go bury your head in the sand and get on with your GC cuddles and snuggles and let the creators of a new era get on with their job, even if that means having to put up with some war talk in GC. ------------- NO..I dont do the Fandango! |
Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 19:40
LOL. I think you mean 'genteel'. A word indicating politeness and chivalry. Gentile is an archaic word for non-Jews. |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 20:30
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Maybe there's room for everything. Hur hur wargarble garble, snuggling, bears, knitting, people complaining about people wargarbling or knitting ... the whole gamut. Maybe we need to learn to tolerate each other. Maybe we'll even find that we enjoy each other, if we keep an open mind.
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Posted By: scaramouche
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 20:38
lol...ok Brand...I stand corrected, I think? yes, I've just checked...your right. ------------- NO..I dont do the Fandango! |
Posted By: Deranzin
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2014 at 23:42
Now there is a sentence I'd sign under every day of the week. 
Wow, now ain't that a grand proclamation ... one has to wonder though what ELSE people might have to "put up with" while "the creators of a new era get on with their job".  
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Posted By: tansiraine
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2014 at 05:31
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I have no issue with constructive conversation about the War BUT... |
Posted By: scaramouche
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2014 at 09:00
hehehe...yea was a bit OTT and grandiose...but it looks cool. ------------- NO..I dont do the Fandango! |
Posted By: Gossip Boy
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2014 at 09:49
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And looking cool will matter in the new era...
------------- Elessar2 [08:34]<Rill> when you've just had part of your brain taken out, you lack a certain amount of credibility <KillerPoodle> I can say anything I like and it is impossible to prove or disprove |
Posted By: The Duke
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2014 at 16:23
------------- "Our generation has had no Great Depression, no Great War. Our war is spiritual. Our depression is our lives." |
Posted By: darpansah
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 10:05
| Well as far as I remember no matter which war it was when harmless and allies were winning there was no such issue cause they were not loosing cities but now the effect is there because things are the other way round.... if you all remember in last war invic players also left the game because of the same reason...so things might go more worse on gc..... |
Posted By: Tyrande Whisperwinds
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 10:24
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70% of what is said in GC is, i'm sorry to say..giberrish. Everytime someone comes in and touches a not so confortable subject, the illy-police brigade comes in shoving the Rules in our faces. I'm must say ppl are pretty pathetic if they can't have a growns-up converstation without insults or pouting about this or that. Seems like all the talk allowed in GC are those about bacon or weather reports. |
Posted By: SimplyDivine
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 11:23
I strongly object to bacon talk! Stop that immediately, or I'm gonna tell Mom on you!
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2014 at 18:16
You forgot muskrats. =P -------------  |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2014 at 00:18
| There's ALWAYS room for muskrats. |