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Category: The World
Forum Name: Politics & Diplomacy
Forum Description: If you run an alliance on Elgea, here's where you should make your intentions public.
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Topic: Surrender
Posted By: Smoking GNU
Subject: Surrender
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 16:20
I, Smoking GNU, do hereby surrender to vCrow and their various allies in the current war. I am laying down arms and will no longer aid in the war effort in any manner, be it militarily or economically. I have accepted Dittobites' terms as presented to me.

Furthermore, i would like to apologize to dittobite and his fellow alliance members about a misunderstanding on my part with regards to one point of negotiation in earlier surrender negotiations with Dlords, to whit with the measure asking one Mordok to  join vCrow for a duration to help in his reconstruction. I was under the mistaken assumption that should this not be accepted, that a player in vCrow be admitted into Dlords instead (which was not the case), which lead to the protest as was seen in GC.

I have left Dlords, as Belar has given me leave to do, and will not seek to return until after the ending of this war.



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Posted By: Ryklaw
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 16:56
GNU, Illy is a better place with you in it. You are an honorable warrior and I respect your decision.

Additionally, every single person playing Illy today makes it a better game. May you be able to choose a path to play the game in the manner that you would enjoy.


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Posted By: Praetor Nistiner
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 17:29
Wish u the best of luck Smoking!Clap

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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2014 at 18:19
GNU, you have been a player I have respected and admired since I joined Illy.  I am very glad not to be at war with you.  Live long and prosper.


Posted By: WeeAshley
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 18:59
I will lay down my arms and will no longer be an active participant in this war and have accepted terms. 

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Posted By: st aug
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 21:11
Never surrender to anybody no matter what. Go out standing up. Never wave the white flag to noboby .No such thing is to live to fight another day. If you going to go out go all the way. And when you go take as many with you as you can . If you wish to quit abandon but never surrender. Its is better to be free and die then to live a be ruled. Control your own density don't be a slave


Posted By: BBC
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 21:22
Originally posted by st aug st aug wrote:

Never surrender to anybody no matter what. Go out standing up. Never wave the white flag to noboby .No such thing is to live to fight another day. If you going to go out go all the way. And when you go take as many with you as you can . If you wish to quit abandon but never surrender.


We are friends Aug but I do have to disagree with you on this. Saying abandoning and quitting is better than surrendering is why players are leaving. I think surrender can be achieved if both party's can agree, which is hard to achieve but not impossible. just a thought from me mate


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 21:26
Originally posted by st aug st aug wrote:

Never surrender to anybody no matter what. Go out standing up. Never wave the white flag to noboby .No such thing is to live to fight another day. If you going to go out go all the way. And when you go take as many with you as you can . If you wish to quit abandon but never surrender. Its is better to be free and die then to live a be ruled.

This would have more credibility if it came from someone who was fighting.

I respect those who choose to continue to fight, but I respect those who make peace more.  Sometimes it takes more courage to lay down arms than to take them up.  That's something I learned from watching people who have made peace in past wars, like Valar and Dwarven Druids and Roads and many more.


Posted By: BBC
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 21:37
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:



Originally posted by st aug st aug wrote:

Never surrender to anybody no matter what. Go out standing up. Never wave the white flag to noboby .No such thing is to live to fight another day. If you going to go out go all the way. And when you go take as many with you as you can . If you wish to quit abandon but never surrender. Its is better to be free and die then to live a be ruled.


This would have more credibility if it came from someone who was fighting.

I respect those who choose to continue to fight, but I respect those who make peace more.  Sometimes it takes more courage to lay down arms than to take them up.  That's something I learned from watching people who have made peace in past wars, like Valar and Dwarven Druids and Roads and many more.




my thoughts exactly rill

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Posted By: st aug
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 21:51
You two are funny like the rest in here. Let me explain something to you . This is a game not real life hate to break bad news to you . You wish   to surrender to somebody and be controlled and told what to do and when to do it just to play a game .Buy all means be my guess do it . For those who wish not to surrender they should have that right too. Remember its a game .-----THIS IS NOT REAL-----


Posted By: BBC
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 21:54
Originally posted by st aug st aug wrote:

You two are funny like the rest in here. Let me explain something to you . This is a game not real life hate to break bad news to you . You wish to surrender to somebody and be controlled and told what to do and when to do it just to play a game .Buy all means be my guess do it . For those who wish not to surrender they should have that right too. Remember its a game .-----THIS IS NOT REAL-----


Aug I have stated many times in GC, that I understand this is a game and that I wont fold because I wont care. However SOME players may feel pressured and leave illy. SO they are loosing out on this game and we are loosing out on them, I don't really think that's fair for both sides really, surrender shouldn't be something to be scared of

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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2014 at 22:44
Let's fight about this stuff somewhere else.  My apologies to GNU and WeeAshley.


Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2014 at 01:00
St Aug, do you not see how hypocritical you are being.  On the first point you claim your (justifiable) right to come on here and tell people NOT to surrender, but then you criticize those who say people should not be pushed toward that path.

Do you honestly think you have the right to say what you want, but that others have no right to say anything in opposition?

Secondly your stance, whilst it being 'your stance' is very odd for someone that has not become involved in this war, your actions themselves are hypocritical.  If you believed what you are claiming then surely you would join the coalition and fight to your very last city for them.

Further, you go on about this being 'just a game' and again in that sense you are right, but then you claim surrendering in this game signifies something serious.

With all these hypocrisies and contradictions, do you really think we should take your posts with even a pinch of seriousness?


This thread is not about you or your views... this thread has seen two people give public confirmation of their surrender, which should not be criticized, after all this is a game and if they are no longer finding the war enjoyable then why should they continue, rather than surrendering from the war and getting on with parts of this game that they personally do enjoy?


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Posted By: Arctic55
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2014 at 01:41
Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:

St Aug, do you not see how hypocritical you are being.  On the first point you claim your (justifiable) right to come on here and tell people NOT to surrender, but then you criticize those who say people should not be pushed toward that path.

Do you honestly think you have the right to say what you want, but that others have no right to say anything in opposition?

Secondly your stance, whilst it being 'your stance' is very odd for someone that has not become involved in this war, your actions themselves are hypocritical.  If you believed what you are claiming then surely you would join the coalition and fight to your very last city for them.

Further, you go on about this being 'just a game' and again in that sense you are right, but then you claim surrendering in this game signifies something serious.

With all these hypocrisies and contradictions, do you really think we should take your posts with even a pinch of seriousness?


This thread is not about you or your views... this thread has seen two people give public confirmation of their surrender, which should not be criticized, after all this is a game and if they are no longer finding the war enjoyable then why should they continue, rather than surrendering from the war and getting on with parts of this game that they personally do enjoy?


I agree 100% with this quote. I wish Smoking GNU and WeeAshley good luck.   

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Persecuted but not abandoned.
Struck down but not destroyed.


Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2014 at 03:34
Originally posted by st aug st aug wrote:

No such thing is to live to fight another day. 
If you wish to quit abandon but never surrender.

just abandon and quit upon a setback? You must be a great asset to anyone in a war Big smile

It takes clarity of thought and hard work to negotiate a peace agreement. I congratulate GNU and WeeAshley for their achievement. Keep rocking guys! Thumbs Up



Posted By: jcx
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2014 at 04:56
/me thinks like playing basketball. When you are tired - go to the sideline, fatten up and rest. Then get back into action..  Ouch



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Posted By: Juswin
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2014 at 07:37
Originally posted by jcx jcx wrote:

When you are tired - go to the sideline, fatten up and rest. Then get back into action..  Ouch

It doesn't work that way here. LOL.


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