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Topic: Age of Ascent?
Posted By: Jane DarkMagic
Subject: Age of Ascent?
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2013 at 20:58
So the devs are working on another game called Age of Ascent...  Just wish we could hear more about it because it seems weird that it has not been announced here in the Illy forums since they have such a captive audience of gamers!

http://www.ageofascent.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.ageofascent.com/



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Posted By: Darmon
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2013 at 21:15
I'm sort of surprised no one stumbled across it sooner, since Luna posted a few things there at the end of June.  That's quite a while to fly under the radar.  Then again, if people get the idea that it's the reason we've heard very little about progress with Broken Lands...


Posted By: GM Luna
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2013 at 21:34
Early days still, so not much to say just yet. If you are interested though I'd say keep an eye on the forums over there because we aren't gonna use the Illy forums to discuss Age of Ascent.

Luna

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Posted By: geofrey
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2013 at 22:16
LUNA LIVES!

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Posted By: Myr
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2013 at 23:16
I can't head off into the skies! The last time I tried my wings melted. It's a good thing I landed on a fluffy, over-sized Orc!


Posted By: Llyr
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2013 at 23:45
It's probably the main reason this game has had nothing new since I joined almost a year ago. Which is a bad sign in my opinion; perpetual games like this generally need new content every few months to maintain and grow their player base. Which may be why this game has had a net loss of about 20% of its accounts since mid-March. Data source:  http://www.puzzleslogic.com/illy/home.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.puzzleslogic.com/illy/home.html

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Posted By: Angrim
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2013 at 02:55
Originally posted by Llyr Llyr wrote:

It's probably the main reason this game has had nothing new since I joined almost a year ago.
possibly.  i'd like to think Broken Lands has something to do with it as well.


Posted By: Taelin
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2013 at 08:00
My understanding is that they have 'separate teams' working on the games. Personally I would much rather that the devs take their time and do what they are doing with BL properly. The measured and thoughtful approach taken so far has resulted in a remarkable game - naturally imperfect in some ways - but far more interesting than anything else of a similar nature on the market. 

So far they have demonstrated an admirable indifference to the baying mob or perhaps rather more accurately the baying vocal minority. Is it really necessary to have shiny new toys every few months? This fall in the number of players is being trotted out regularly - assuming it is accurate what does it mean? what was the position this time last year? and rather more importantly to the business is it reflected in a reduced purchase of prestige?

Perhaps even, dare one countenance it, some of the devs have taken a holiday during the summer! (If this suggestion is considered libellous I will happily withdraw it) 




Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2013 at 12:07
from what i read they are writing code in blocks that can be used between several games..they also experimenting with cloud servers...these guys are on the cutting edge and as gamers we should all be proud to be involved in their prototype game....i cant wait for release of ageofascent!


Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2013 at 12:29
This sounds absurd to me. They are not finished developing Elgea - tons of planned game content  still await implementation.
They have begun the developement of Broken Lands (which I thought was somewhat untimely when they had farfrom finished their ongoing project but  hey...) and now they begin a third project not even having made any progress in Elgea for well over a year.

I am very dissappointed in this, I had thought the devs would show a little more consideration and respect to the players who have patiently waited for them to do some work on Elgea for years now.





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Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2013 at 14:20
As I understand it, there will be huge changes in Elgea, too, coming along with BL.
I remember reading something about a new story arc? So far most small changes in Story came with big changes in gaming, so I'm really waiting for all of that =)

And perhaps I'll give the new game a try, too... but in the description it's called a high paced game, so perhaps nothing for me... Wink


Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2013 at 16:49
This is from a post I made in "Lost GMs", another thread complaining about Illyiriad's supposed stagnation:

"I believe the idea that the player base is deteriorating is subjective in one sense. That is, that a relatively large number of players began in Illyriad in conjunction with advertising through Facebook and Google (perhaps elsewhere but I know those happened). For example, I stumbled across Illyriad when I first started using Chrome and tried it. I believe there has been little to no advertising as of late and therefore the player base, through what one could characterize as normal attrition is slowly dwindling. If I missed it and there has been advertising lately, this theory is bunk.

As Broken Lands and Factions roll out I would assume we will see a spike in new players. Certainly in BL but in Elgea too. It's August, so according to the original announcement we should have an influx of newbs in the next 4 or 5 months. Can't wait to see all the posts complaining about that."


I don't believe I've ever seen so much griping about something so trivial...and for Pete's sake, it's free!

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Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2013 at 19:28
This upcoming game casts considerable doubt on my participation in Broken Lands. I'm fond of space games, and there is only so much time in the day.


Posted By: Jane DarkMagic
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2013 at 19:47
I don't think it's our place to dictate where the devs spend their time and money.  We enjoy their product, Illyriad, and many of us buy prestige.  But that does not give us the right to manage their business for them.  If it gets to a point where the game is no longer enjoyable, I can just quit.  The devs, on the otherhand, have their entire livelihoods at stake.

Personally, I plan on trying the new game.  I've enjoyed Illyriad, for the most part, and am definitely willing to give any other game they create a chance.


Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2013 at 09:20
Some of us spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars supporting this project - not because it was just any browser game but because it was Illy and because James Niesewands vision of Illyriad was something worth supporting.
I don't blame those of you who do not realize this as it began a long time ago - possibly before you arrived in Illy, but for some of us this is a breach of understanding.

Sure I cant keep SC or TC working non stop on Illy, but I think being up front and honest about their intentions and work programme is the least we should be able to expect from them at this point. Communication(!)


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Posted By: Angrim
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2013 at 16:56
Originally posted by Tordenkaffen Tordenkaffen wrote:

Some of us spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars supporting this project - not because it was just any browser game but because it was Illy and because James Niesewands vision of Illyriad was something worth supporting.
I don't blame those of you who do not realize this as it began a long time ago - possibly before you arrived in Illy, but for some of us this is a breach of understanding.

...I think being up front and honest about their intentions and work programme is the least we should be able to expect from them at this point. Communication(!)
while plans are plans and i don't feel that illyriad has any obligation to develop future content based on prestige spent, i would also like to hear how Age of Ascent and Broken Lands have affected the development arc laid out by GM Stormcrow http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/the-newness-18aug10_topic929.html" rel="nofollow - here .  i fear after being browbeaten by their own plans so often, the devs have concluded that sharing the distant vision with the players was a mistake.  i can only echo Tordenkaffen that many of us are here atm because of that vision and would like very much to know how the devs feel about it now, several years into the project.


Posted By: Llyr
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2013 at 18:00
Businesses fail when they over-promise and under-deliver. Businesses prosper when they under-promise and over-deliver. I leave it to readers to draw their own conclusions.

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Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2013 at 18:35
I've seen lots of businesses who defy both of those axioms. It's pleasing to the ear, but not so clear cut in practice.


Posted By: Angrim
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2013 at 23:45
Originally posted by Llyr Llyr wrote:

Businesses fail when they over-promise and under-deliver. Businesses prosper when they under-promise and over-deliver. I leave it to readers to draw their own conclusions.
managing expectations is key.  by the time i read the post i linked above it was clear that six months was a wildly optimistic timeline for all the changes SC had outlined.  still, i think there is value to it.

      "Remember that the Mirror shows many things, and not all have yet come to pass. Some never come to be, unless those that behold the visions turn aside from their path to prevent them. The Mirror is a dangerous guide of deeds..."
      "Do you advise me to look?" asked Frodo.
      "No", she said. "I do not counsel you one way or the other. I am not a counsellor. You may learn something, and whether what you see be fair or evil, that may be profitable, and yet it may not. Seeing is both good and perilous..."



Posted By: Machete
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2013 at 01:16
I have spent significant $ on prestige; however, the last time was over 2 months ago.
Over-promise and under-deliver. exactly.
And do the devs really think I will spend more $ on a new game considering there lack of performance on this game?
No. Someone is giving the devs really poor advice.


Posted By: Nalleen
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2013 at 09:33
Gaming is a business so we have to give "the powers that be" credit for branching out. We all want our BL and want it now Wink but I too am glad it is being developed with care. This way there will be fewer bumps in the road when it is finally released. And, myself, won't mind checking out Age of Ascent, especially if it is connected to the same who have brought me my favorite browser game of all time! Clap

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