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Topic: alliance tax
Posted By: twilights
Subject: alliance tax
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2013 at 13:58
i notice that alliance is able to tax each of their members. personally i believe this to be a good alliance tool. often funds are used to purchase items as a group that a single player would not be able to. i use these funds to help smaller alliance members. i personally would love that the alliance tax would include the option of taxing prestige also. again i believe this would promote more team play. what are others thoughts and reasons to use or not use alliance tax? again please be polite and try to stay on topic...thanks!



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Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2013 at 14:56
I regard Alliance taxes on Prestige (spent or bought) as a no-go area, because it's too close to being real money, and players need to transparently see what they're getting during Prestige purchases.

Instead players can voluntarily contribute prestige to the alliance, and they can do this now.


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Posted By: bansisdead
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2013 at 16:53
BSHx doesn't even tax gold and I doubt we would consider taxing prestige if this option was made available.  The current option of voluntarily contributing prestige would suffice I believe.  If a prestige tax was made compulsary it will reduce the number of players, as not everyone buys prestige.  Also creating 'prestige' only alliances would cause division within Illy Imho.


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Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2013 at 19:14
To be honest I think most alliances wouldn't use prestige tax if it was there.  And those alliances that did make this shift would see a loss of many players.  

I'm not opposed to the idea because if my alliance chose to tax prestige I could just leave.  But I don't think creating it really adds to the game.  


Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2013 at 20:44
People pay real money for prestige. An alliance that tried to siphon it away would quickly lose most of its prestige paying players, and for good reason. Twilights, if you want some prestige for your alliance, I recommend buying it and donating it for alliance usage. It's also available for tournament victories.


Posted By: st aug
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2013 at 01:36
some people will never pay to play no matter what you call it. just like anything it has it's pros and cons. my vote is no to alliance tax.


Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2013 at 20:34
maybe the game should reward the alliance a prestige point at the same time it rewards the player for log in. this would make the alliance prestige pool a more important factor in all alliances instead of just favoring alliances that have members willing to donate..also maybe the game should match funds the alliance gets from alliance tax...it sounds like this aspect of the game does not have even play with all alliances. there should be more functions that encourage playing the game on a regular basis..more team play.... especially when the players reach the max amount of castles or are waiting for long build times to be accomplished....lets have an awesome active game!


Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2013 at 21:04
Actually I love the idea that you can 'claim' a reward for the alliance.  1 pres for you, 1 pres for the alliance :D


Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2013 at 21:42
That would seem to favor large alliances. They already have an advantage, in that they have many players who can collect and donate their prestige. Such a policy might also encourage the use of bots or excessive alt accounts.


Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2013 at 22:17
A large alliance has to spread its prestige pool over a bigger number to.  

If an alliance of 100 people each donate 1 prestige.  Then the alliance has 1 prestige per person.  
If an alliance of 10 people each donate 1 prestige.  The alliance still has 1 prestige per person.

As for bots and excessive alt accounts there are already plenty of reasons those our 'encouraged'  

Although I still would like to see things that you could do to help out the alliance.  Doesn't have to be prestige but perhaps another form of alliance daily bonus.  


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2013 at 22:26
Players can already donate the one free prestige they get to the alliance every day, if they so choose.


Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2013 at 13:41
a sitter is not rewarded prestige when they log in, only the main account holder. the sitter is also not allow to use the alliance prestige pool....adding a daily prestige point to the alliance prestige pool  will also allow us to find out spies in our alliance..spying ruins a game more than it helps it....it will  encourage people to play...we need more active players in the game, this will give  another reason to log into the game more often, especially when u have max castles or long builds going on. we should develop positive active team play to make this game more fun and keep people logging in often!


Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2013 at 19:23
I would caution, there is a big difference between wanting to log in everyday.  And being forced to login everyday via game mechanics.  As I and several others have pushed for, less clicking for its own sake and more actual game play.  


Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2013 at 20:05
I have to agree with DD89. There is nothing wrong with a player who logs in once or twice a week, sets their build queues and works quietly. Perhaps they are tournament fighters or city builders. Many casual players are probably adults with families and jobs, and thus limited time for video games. There is no need for the game mechanics to punish people who aren't super-active or chatty. Nor do I see any particular virtue in rewarding people who simply log in every day for a minute to grab free prestige points.

If you're so concerned about prestige, pay the $30 (20 GBP) for 1200 points.


Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2013 at 01:34
^^ The last two posts speak much sense.
(hopes that nobody else posted in the meantime with something silly)


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Posted By: Sisren
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2013 at 10:45
Huh... is this a suggestion of twilight's where someone doesn't slam the player, just actually discuss the merits of the idea?

progress people!  progress...


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Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2013 at 13:41
Originally posted by Sisren Sisren wrote:

Huh... is this a suggestion of twilight's where someone doesn't slam the player, just actually discuss the merits of the idea?

Well it was, until that.....Clap



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