Prestiging Vans
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Topic: Prestiging Vans
Posted By: Starry
Subject: Prestiging Vans
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 16:56
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What is going on with prestiging vans? I've submitted a petition days ago (still unacknowledged) and I'm more than just annoyed. I've sent vans to H members, they have immediately prestiged the vans in but the vans do not immediately return, in fact, in some cases they takes days to return to my cities. We're pay money for prestige, using it to speed up vans and the system is not giving us our money's worth. This is a big problem, it needs to be addressed and fixed. Is anyone working on petitions? I have another biggie on Aradil that has not been acknowledged, it's a problem, also costing prestige to offset the Sov glitch. Don't start messing with people's money, if we spend money on the game, make sure the system works. I'm not sure why we are experiencing new bugs on a system that was working just fine but the bugs are becoming very tedious and worrisome. ------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless? "Truth never dies." -HonoredMule |
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Posted By: Aurordan
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 17:27
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Prestige can't be used to immediatly return caravans. It just doubles their speed. If you use it a lot, they might go very fast, but they will be taking time. I don't believe it is intended to impact the return trip either. |
Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 17:31
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Not true unless they changed it (if so, where is the announcement?), to the extent you speed up the vans to their destination, they have always taken the same time to return plus the time it took for the receiving member to start prestiging. The system is inconsistent, prestiged vans are returning partially sped up, not sped up at all or immediately. ------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless? "Truth never dies." -HonoredMule |
Posted By: Llyr
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 18:23
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Player A sends vans to Player B. Either A or B (or both) can use prestige to speed the vans to B. However, only Player A can use prestige to speed them back. I haven't seen any change in this, and I've used the feature over the last couple of days.
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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 19:12
| There was a change to this some months ago, I don't recall whether it was announced or not, but if the RECEIVER prestiges the caravans, it only works on the incoming trip and doesn't speed up the trip home. I can't recall whether it's always been that way for prestiged incoming vans -- I seem to recall that it is something that changed after they introduced that feature, but it's been that way for at least several months. (Being able to prestige incoming vans is a feature that was added in the past year or so, previously you could only prestige your own caravans.) |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 19:18
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As Starry noted, it is inconsistent, when the prestiged vans sometimes return more quickly as well. I haven't figured out when this occurs, I think it might relate to when the vans are prestiged (whether early in their travel time or later.) In some ways it sort of makes sense purely from the perspective of stabilizing income for the developers, since prestiging incoming vans affects shipments from multiple cities or players that otherwise would have to be prestiged for each city, and therefore is a lot more cost effective. It also could add a wrinkle to prestige building during sieges, since your supplies would take more time to get their vans back. I don't have an opinion about how this should work, since I see arguments for both sides. But I do think it would be good to get a description of how it does work, particularly if there is a window to prestige vans both ways. (Although this might also just be a bug.)
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Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 19:40
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It's always worked both ways for me, if there was a change we should have been notified. We are paying for a feature that is not working correctly. ------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless? "Truth never dies." -HonoredMule |
Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 19:40
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When it comes to cash money, the details, rules-how it works need to be spelled out, very specifically. Lacking this will cause players to loose faith in the system. As they say, money talks...etc. etc. ------------- |
Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 22:27
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I've had few problems using it in the manner that vans are prestige in both directions. I do believe there are some inconsistency that I see but overall little effect. It appears clearly that Starry has a significant disadvantage compared to me in regards to this. Anything that gives one player an advantage or disadvantage over another due to a glitch should be corrected. Also i've seen vans speed up both ways for months. I've not heard of an update nor seen any change in this for at least 6 months.
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Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 07 May 2013 at 23:51
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I've seen some other weird effects recently. Vans I was sure had 30mins to go suddenly delivered and gone etc.
------------- "This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM "a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill |
Posted By: Malek
Date Posted: 08 May 2013 at 02:05
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I have not experienced this problem as yet, though from the many many times i have pres'ed the vans if i zip it straight away and it takes a minute to get to my town it should take a minute to get back ready for another go should it be required. If this is not happening then it definitely needs to be looked at. Players spending money on pres is what keeps this game making new developments and prestiging vans across the map is probably a good percentage of how players spend it.
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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 08 May 2013 at 04:13
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I wonder if there is a difference between vans doing city to city trade via the market (not hub trades) and vans simply sent from city to city. The experiences I've had where the vans returned more slowly, as I recall, were those for market trades. So someone bought my city to city market order and prestiged the caravan, which then got to his/her city nearly instantly, then took the regular amount of time to travel back to me. So maybe market trades only prestige one way and city to city prestiges both ways when the receiver prestiges? I'm not stating an opinion about how things SHOULD work, just trying to nail down how it does work. Does this seem at all familiar?
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Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 08 May 2013 at 04:21
| This isn't in regards to market trades. They may be part of the problem, but not only. |
Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 08 May 2013 at 04:37
None of the vans involved market trades, they were all to players. ------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless? "Truth never dies." -HonoredMule |
Rill wrote:Posted By: Ossian
Date Posted: 08 May 2013 at 10:34
| I am not happy to see this continuous disloyal carping over minor bugs. If you don't like it here any longer then pack your bags instead of making it unpleasant for the rest of us. |
Posted By: Malek
Date Posted: 08 May 2013 at 12:01
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Pull your head in Ossian. If I spend money on a product I expect it to work in the manner it is intended. If I buy something from a shop and its broken I take it back and get it fixed/replaced. This situation is no different, since there is no recourse like that available as this is an online game it has been brought to the attention of the dev's. Good/bad whatever if it is not spoken about and there are more players experiencing this issue the forums is the place to do it and for these other players to also voice their experience with a broken mechanic. If the mechanic is broken on a major issue like speeding vans up then it needs to be addressed, as this is probably the item that most prestige is spent on, I know it is for me. As to this "Disloyal Carping", I have noted some minor venting yet nothing warranting the scorn and criticism displayed by you. This is very tame compared to other threads on this forum. If you pay for prestige then you should probably be in agreeance (unless you never help anyone out by prestiging vans to them), if you don't use prestige then go and find another thread to waste peoples time on. |
Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 08 May 2013 at 13:09
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TC is looking into this problem now, thank you TC. Ossian every time a Director of H posts, you have to make a negative comment unrelated to the topic at hand, unless you have something constructive to add to the conversation do us all a favor and go away. I'm going to suggest you get control of your bitterness and take it somewhere else; it's getting old and tedious. Perhaps you are the one that needs to pack your bags. I agree Malek, when you pay for a service you have a right to get what you pay for; the Devs are addressing the problem now. Again, thank you TC.
------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless? "Truth never dies." -HonoredMule |
Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 08 May 2013 at 15:59
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Griping is not disloyal...unless you are some sort of a fascist dictator or something, then I suppose it is. ------------- |