150 Sov Squares
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Topic: 150 Sov Squares
Posted By: Anjire
Subject: 150 Sov Squares
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 16:29
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Immediately following the tournament, I will be testing whether there is a discovery to be found when/if a town claims 150 sov squares. I want to thank Gon for the donation of 10 Elven Thoroughbreds and Shadow for the donation of 65 light leather. I will be adding in some light spears to increase my armies speed for an increase of +35% speed. (I will be purchasing 10 more Elven Thoroughbreds and 10 more light spears to protect against any mishaps with NPC's). Additionally, I will setting up my city to run 4 Chanceries for a 75% reduction in level 1 sov costs. The plan is to send and send and send rinse and repeat till I have 150 Sovs claimed. Then hold the sov squares for at least a one week period (possibly as much as a month depending on how well i can sustain it). Army unit will be T1 cavalry commander with one t1 cavalry unit - cavalry commander will be level 10 for 15% forced march. City can be found here to watch the progress: http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map/-735/-344/7" rel="nofollow - http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map/-735/-344/7 If you have any suggestions on how to speed up the process or mitigate the cost, please share via this thread or IGM. ~Anjire ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow">  |
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Posted By: Beecks
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 16:42
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Good luck. I find it nearly impossible to claim even 20 sov squares in one sitting. Getting all 200 done for an account is nearly as tedious as the population gap between cities 9 and 10. If there is a discovery to be had from this, It will be neat to see the map light up as everyone rushes for 150 squares. |
Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 17:43
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An admirable experiment! You might want to ask The Duke about 150 sov. I believe I asked if anyone had tried this in a prior thread, and IIRC he said it had been attempted. |
Posted By: Auraya
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 19:13
| I can't guarantee to have very much to offer but I shall donate some gold/books towards upkeep costs if that would be helpful. I look forward to watching it! I've often wondered about it. |
Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 21:13
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Ready-reckoning L1 sov with 4 Chanceries (+Scribes bonus) on that terrain tells me you'd need to feed your city an extra 363 research/hr at 0% tax. = 3050 books/week with 150 claims. Not too bad; not "1984" :o) -------------  |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 21:20
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Well, I have a few Million RP already in that city so I don't think RP will be the sticking point. And, thanks to the tournament - I have been able to whittle away the 50K stalwarts down to 10K left which will be good for getting level 10 on all the new T1 Commanders coming on line now. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Gossip Boy
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 00:02
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Good initiative. Though I doubt it would bear any fruit, it is good to see players experimenting and willing to share their results  ------------- Elessar2 [08:34]<Rill> when you've just had part of your brain taken out, you lack a certain amount of credibility <KillerPoodle> I can say anything I like and it is impossible to prove or disprove |
Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 00:31
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@GB: if you want to read about more experiments (all failed, sadly): http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/failed-expeditions-map-experiment-graveyard_topic5028.html |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 02:22
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Perhaps it is 150 level V sov squares ... Personally I doubt either lev I or lev V sov squares will trigger a discovery, but I suppose it gives us something to do.
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Posted By: Ossian
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 11:03
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/me watches Anjire with interest. Hmm seems harmless enough....wait Harmless?....They are trying to start a new arms race!  |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 12:48
Yeah, I don't think I will trigger anything either but it will be a good last hurrah sort of thing for me. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Rill wrote:Posted By: opk
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 12:51
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If it was 100 lvl 1 sovs, seeing your configuration you could sustain it "easily" at taxes 35-40% and all... but 150... With 150 lvl 1 sovs, 4 chanceries and 0% taxes, and the alambine done, you should roughly get between -300 and -500 research /h. If of course you claim the closest squares from you. So it's not sustainable, but if you have millions of research you could keep it like this for months indeed. Even at taxe 35-40% where you would have between -600 and -800 research points/h average i think.
So in theory you can do this as you have good stocks of RP. Though it wouldnt be a good idea to build a city like that on pupose. About how to achieve this faster... If you have 5 armies with T1 cav coms and T1 cavs in it, and 150 messengers ready... you could just send your armies on occupations for days, claim the land when you can, and recall with your messengers when you can. In theory, if you keep doing this all day long, it's done in 1 days or 2. But if you use this technic you can take the time you want. EDIT: Ps: dont forget to build lvl 1 farmstead on 20 sov tiles, so that you dont have to demolish any buildings (appart from the ones you'd demolish to free up some space for your chanceries). ------------- Old Penitent Knight |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2013 at 16:07
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Just an update: My current sov claims are not going to change. I will eat the extra RP costs to avoid the inconvenience that de-leveling sov entails. I don't have any plans to find a way to make 150 sov squares sustainable. I simple plan to claim up 150 to see if there is a discovery waiting. Depending on the resource drain at that time I will keep the claims up and running for 1 week to 1 month before dropping them all. I will probably enlist the help of sitters from H? to keep a constant stream/watch on the squares. I do like opk's idea of recruiting a hole bunch of messengers which will allow a lot less micromanaging. Also, thanks to those that sent additional supplies but I should be all set for now on crafted equipment. Speed of Army w/equipment = 40.5
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Posted By: dspn23
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 17:02
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tips to make it faster: 1)become elf :P 2)time those messengers to the second :P (as long as u can click in the "claim sov" in less than 1 second. otherwise give the messengers some gap :P ) 3) i belive that when u want to cancel (if u don't have army) u could send all u're gold away and all sov's would be auto-deleted withouth another 150 clicks (or more depending on how much clicks u must do to cancel a sov) might seem preaty drastic, but well... it's an idea. up to u to use it or not :P
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Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 17:45
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Sending all your gold away could hit your troops as well. Also there is an RP glitch for when that happens with sov, so I would be cautious if there is a gold glitch as well.
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Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 22:44
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Actually, I probably won't use the messenger trick as much as I thought I may need it. At a speed of 40.5 it only takes about 10 minutes to go out 7 squares from my city which is pretty much the extent what is needed to claim 150 sov squares. I will take the time to click/cancel my way through at the end once I am done with my experiment. Thanks for the suggestions ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: belargyle
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 23:17
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No Fair.. you can't do something of this magnitude and NOT have a dwarf to make sure it is done right. Thusly, I will join your you quest for knowledge.. 150 sov lvl 1 tiles (with some others higher as I'm not reducing them - yet) :D (*walks away wondering what is world have I gotten myself into)
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Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 23:35
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Just happens to be a dwarf... ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Kale
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2013 at 23:35
| Glad to see you joining the 150 Tile Club, Belargyle. |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 02:13
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Might have found a glitch... Sov #51 was instant. 59 was instant as well ***82 sovs to go - taking a break will try to finish up the claims by Tuesday
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Posted By: opk
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 04:33
Now that you say that, i didnt really pay attention but i think i had that glitch too when claiming 1 or 2 sovs few days ago. ------------- Old Penitent Knight |
Posted By: Epidemic
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 18:22
Does this mean you're leaving the game? |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 20:02
I will be taking a long hiatus starting in the next few months. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 21:22
Update: Overlooked snag in the experiment - will pick up where I left off in one weeks time.  ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 21:30
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Serjeanty ------------- |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 21:39
4 Chanceries built and it has been so long since I did any research in Hellliconia I didn't even both to check that. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Auraya
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 21:47
| This is looking pretty awesome already :) Good luck! |
Posted By: Shadar Logoth
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 22:19
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So... he's like... claiming sov now right? ... What happens if we all send him max loads of clay now? ... I mean... that should delay the whole endeavour right, with mounds piling up *grins* ... Clay... now where did i hear that before? ------------- More Orc, less talking! All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules. |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2013 at 22:57
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This is my tracking spread sheet for my claiming progress: ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Kale
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2013 at 21:12
| 150 Tiles claimed. No discovery for Kale... |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 12 May 2013 at 23:27
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Update: After being sidetracked by Real Life - 150 sovs claimed. I will now keep the claims active for a period of one month before rescinding them. As Kale mentioned in the above post - no discovery. :( ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 00:06
| Good try though! You should at least get a medal. |
Posted By: Auraya
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 11:20
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[13 May 10:19]<System> Medal 150 Sov Squares Medal awarded to:Anjire [H?]
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Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 12:19
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Try breaking 500 total. ------------- |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 13:10
Heh, Thanks! but Kale Weathers was the first that I know of to get to 150 Sovs first!
Hmmm...let me see if I can set up to do so. 85 more sovs in two different cities. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Auraya
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 14:08
| Did Kale do it in one city? I thought his was across all cities? In any case, I've enjoyed watching your thread/city. It's been very entertaining. |
Posted By: Salararius
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 14:32
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To complete the quest, maybe you need to spell something or make a specific symbol with those 150 sov squares? Oh the possibilities... ;-) |
Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 13 May 2013 at 19:00
| Guys you have it all wrong. The medal is for getting 1000 sov sq's all on your own. |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 18 May 2013 at 03:42
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Red Dwarf completed 90 sovs left to claim to reach 500. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Kale
Date Posted: 18 May 2013 at 04:01
After doing 150 at my capitol and then hitting the Cancel button 130 times, I can say with authority that you are going to snap if there is no discovery. I give you about... 300 tiles before you grab a High Power Bow and start sniping random Elves from the Chancery.
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Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 May 2013 at 02:25
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500 Sovs claimed and waiting to resolve ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: opk
Date Posted: 19 May 2013 at 07:44
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If 150 sovs medal is crazy sov claimer... what would it be for 500 total!! Im wondering if the devs didnt create this medal just for you, knowing you were doing that :p
------------- Old Penitent Knight |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 May 2013 at 14:32
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All sov claims have resolved - no discovery @ 500 sovs or at 150(max) in an individual city. I will start rescinding claims in 24 hours. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Epidemic
Date Posted: 19 May 2013 at 17:43
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Here's a crazy theory, one i'll never try for even if there was a discovery. What if you need 150 sov claims in all 10 towns to unlock a discovery? |
Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 19 May 2013 at 19:43
| What if you need 20 Sov V structures in the same town? |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 May 2013 at 20:02
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been done, one of twilights cities. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: lokifeyson
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 05:00
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nice try on the discovery, lets keep trying :) -------------  |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 20:33
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Sov has been rescinded on all but Helliconia still have a few more weeks ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2013 at 22:31
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Sov has been rescinded on Helliconia End of my experiment. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |