The game is a complex and time consuming as you make it, the issue here is about players being unwilling to accept that you are meant to specialise your account for a role in this game, which has always been the devs intention and has been stated from the very start.

Yes if you want to manage an account that can hunt, harvest, trade and has strong military and magic capabilities, all on a competitive basis with players that actually bother to specialise; then you will have a hard time, but that is not how the game should be played.

Regarding your views on how to make it more manageable;

A reduction in allowable 'cities' will do nothing that you can not do yourself, if you cant handle 10 cities then dont build 10.  How many times (and how many threads will you make) will you try to have such a limit placed on other players? just cause you cant be bothered to put the time and effort in.

This is and always has been a long term game, setting delete times too quick would be VERY detrimental to its long term player base.

As an aside, from reading through your many posts here I would just like to ask WHY you play illyriad?  You constantly suggest huge changes to this game (which so many people love so much) which would make it like some Evony clone.  If you want a game more like Evony then why not spend your time playing Evony?

P.S. please put any response on this forum thread, rather than sending me a mail, I am tired of the lies that you send to me in mails.

Furthermore, when he questions your overall opinion on this game and suggests an alternate game to play, he isn't attempting to troll you.  He is just asserting HIS opinion, and just as you asserted yours, you are fully entitled to respond respectfully with a continuous assertion of YOUR opinion.  Name-calling doesn't help you in the least bit, since it won't sway his argument OR gain respect from other people.

Please note this is MY opinion, and again I say that you are fully entitled to respectfully disagree with it.  

I honestly think they would be best off playing something different, rather than spending their time in the forums moaning that this game should be changed to suit their type of game style.  After all, many of the regular players here, played Evony first and came here to get away from that type of game and its players.

@GP

You already made a thread about 5 cities, so i'll just point you to it to see everyone's rejection of it.  In fact quicker build time was brought up in another thread as well.  So once again go see that one.

As for delete time, how long it takes accounts to get deleted has no bearing on how much time it takes you to play.  I find 90 days to be fine.

@Epi

Yea I kinda agree the BL 'expansion' seems to just be server 2 in all regards.  Especially given there is 'almost' no interaction between the two.  But Alliances/Confeds will be no more powerful than they are now.  Simple fact is if you play a team game, and come alone the other team will stomp you.  

Yea totally agree there on the bonuses/penalties.  

Actually after that they just seem like ur suggestions rather than actual time saving things.  

I suggest a type of repeat harvest where we can tell our harvesters to return to the herb/min/anat patch.  As well as a similar thing with vans.  Ex 'if maxed wood, send wood to hub x'  

Also for hubs can we have a 'pick up' option.  IE one where we send a van from town x, the van picks up the good and then comes back.  Rather than the current method where we have to send a van, tell it to stay, then ship the van back to town x and tell it to stay again?

I would suggest a auto-fill adv res que, but you can just stack 10k goods in it and not worry about it for a year.  

I have now officially read it all !!! 

Dezanzin, Gemley...

Rather than criticizing the person, criticize the point made.

You are trolling when you can't critque the viewpoint, and instead make it personal.

Try staying on the topic.

i just cant handle more, but its unfair against me and those like me if some get to have all this..

However, if such a thing were to appear (and I expect it will not), it would have to give a mediocre result, rather than the best result. I say this in the interests of game balance, because you want people to be able to find their own opportunities to do better than others (given a level playing field of opportunity), and having advisers of limited usefulness gives players the headroom to make a difference.

Also, the advisers cannot be too good at scheduling long build queues, because that would allow players to build without interacting with the game (players would be sleeping on the job!), and it would allow 'fraudulent' accounts to be created easily.

I actually have no objection to the long growth path that is open to a player. The same opportunity is offered to all players. I see objections where new players look at established players and see the capability gap: they think it is unfair that they can't yet play with the big toys. Conversely, I see the oldest players observing newer accounts growing more quickly than they themselves could. Broken Lands is a good response to these objections. Indeed, I believe there should be a new continent/server every couple of years, so that a land can be populated without the 'I'm powerful only because I got there first' advantage that is a consequence of a long growth period. For this to work, Illy needs a fast-growing player base: enough to keep filling continents, so that new players can grow in a lively land of opportunity.

Last, a slightly controversial statement: this game needs patience, time, a reasonably analytical or mathematical approach, and gratification is not instant. Illyriad is not for everyone; other games may satisfy their needs, and people should play whatever engages them. It's fine to say "this is not for me"; I just hope that before people reach that point, they gave it a good try.

Having said that, there might be scope for a 'Minillyriad' variant, where build times are shorter, buildings can only go to level 15, and the settler function is more generous. It would result in a very fluid game, but perhaps one where being offline for two days is disasterous.

I love the complexity of Illy. I think it really filters out alot of the "trolls" you find in other games. However if I were coming to Illy as a new player I would for sure find the game very deep and hard to comprehend. I also think that this is why we have so many training alliances. Some better than others and I trust that those leading training alliances can teach players how to specialize or point them in the right direction at least. These things are key moving forward. 

Suggestions: 

I would love some kind of Auto que for adv res as well. Also love the igm to be sorted. Just yesterday I lost a scouting report among 50 some System mails. 

As for me Id like these things to be added that havent been suggested yet- 

Poison Herbs- Id like to have the ability to plant Poisonous herbs- If harvested they would Kill the herbalist/Cotter. Not sure what unit would plant the herb- I was thinking Herbalist but maybe a new unit. 

Thats all that Ive not suggested previously

Illy has a click-intensive, cumbersome, non-intuitive user interface.  Illy is designed to require frequent player attention - setting up queues (factories, barracks, techs, bldgs, etc), Sovs, harvesting, trading, questing, timing army and diplo launches.

(but I would love to be able to reduce sov claims just one level at a time)

 This kind of stuff is mind numbing.

 

Play the game people don't complicate and analyse it. Lets have fun.

 

I'd like more magic options so that I can specialise my cities more and I'm happy that the devs are working on that. 

The biggest thing which would save time for me is a notes section which has been suggested many times. Not having to analyse every city in depth to see what I was working on in each city would save heaps of time and probably allow me to expand into the Broken Lands. As it is, there's no way I could handle another 10 cities. 

A small change which I'd be happy to pay prestige for: 'Demolish all' for a building, which would take the same amount of time but mean I don't have to keep a constant eye on that city to keep demolishing. 5 prestige or something to 'demolish all' would be very worthwhile imo.

Also Id love to see a notification when someone harvest or has an army on my sov- Similar to when a friendly harvest a spot your army is on - we get notified  PLayer X is harvesting and is being protected by your forces. A similar notification would be nice for sov claimed land. 

Changing over Sov structures is a very time-consuming, click intensive process that diminishes the player experience in Illy.   I'd like to be able to select sovs and then with a single command order them to demo current structure and build a new structure.  

Automated harvesting - standing order to send herbies, cotters, etc to a site on a preset timetable.

Advance notification of an army's occupation time nearing expiration would be nice.  Lead time of notice set by player for each army.

Ability to filter notifications by city.

Subfolders for organizing mail.

The system deleting system mails after 7 days requires me to mail myself the important reports that I anticipate needing beyond 7 days.  We should be able to mark system mails for permanent retention, also customizable subfolders to organize.

A notepad for each city for me to make notes about plans for the city.

I also agree with the demolish sov by 1 lvl.  In fact i agree with a new sov UI.

Why not be able to do it from the world map itself?  Currently I have the click back and forth to make sure i'm soving or desoving the right sq.

Also can we add rising/falling on the world map as well.  That way I don't send to a sq already rising.

:P im sure they could make it really complex and remove the interface and have us learn code instead :D