Dissolution of Consone
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Topic: Dissolution of Consone
Posted By: HATHALDIR
Subject: Dissolution of Consone
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 00:09
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I am announcing on behalf of all Consone members that our confederation will be drawing to an end shortly. All leaders will be changing their diplomacy status to reflect this. NAPS will probably ensue to ensure our troops do not kill each other. We concede that the Coalition has won their fight against Consone, and all individual alliances will deal directly with H? through the Embassy at a time of their own choosing. We mourn the loss of players who preferred the peaceful life, while also acknowledging that, as in real life, sometimes circumstances are not those of one's own choosing. We have all learnt alot in the mechanics of war during this conflict, one that has made everyone stronger! We salute our opposition, for they have proven mightier over the longer time, and we would not welch on this I am sure this will cause much consternation and comment throughout Illy, i ask that we move on from here in a positive light HATHALDIR, for Consone Confederation ------------- There's worse blokes than me!! |
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 00:14
| Best wishes to everyone, Hath. |
Posted By: Jejune
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 00:54
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On behalf of the Nightbringers, I'd like to congratulate the ex-members of Consone on their part in this war, and to acknowledge the courage it takes to disband Consone as a power base in the game. From a gaming standpoint, this war gave many of us the opportunity to experience a dimension of the game that for a long time seemed completely out of reach. It's true that the war led to the loss of cities, and some players left, but in the end, this war has shown the Illy community the full breadth of this game, for better or for worse. I for one am glad to have had the opportunity to be a part of it.
For the Coalition, we will obviously need to ascertain the situations surrounding remaining conflicts with individual alliances, and determine the appropriate course of action. But in terms of the ideological aspect of this war, I think that now is a time for magnanimity in victory, and graciousness. |
Posted By: vty
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 01:28
| Wait, so I can't attack Sir Bradley? I'm sad now |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 01:45
 The war has not ended. Hath has stated that EE has exited Consone, sort of. As far as game mechanics are concerned NAP and Confed are identical. |
vty wrote:Posted By: vty
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 01:45
Cool, he's dead.
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Posted By: vty
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 01:50
| I don't get the point of a Consone break up, I'm sure we will still keep NAPs and Confeds to some degree |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 01:54
This announcement from Hath suggests abandonment of the "brand name" (no offense intended) Consone. As an analogy, Ford Motors discontinued the brand Mercury.
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Posted By: HATHALDIR
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 02:14
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On the contrary T_D, Consone is being dissolved, all alliances will be free to keep, maintain or alter their own diplomacy as they see fit, Consone as an entity is wound up,
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 02:17
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Posted By: bansisdead
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 11:07
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Whilst I applaud the courage shown in defeat, I fear this is just changing the name on the tin! From the ashes,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gazpacho" rel="nofollow - Gazpacho will rise? ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/124253" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Mayflower
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 11:56
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I'm still kind of confused. So all the alliances within Consone have surrendered to the Coalition? Or is it only ee that is withdrawing? ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/105635" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Deranzin
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 12:13
Wow ! This sounds like a great choice for everyone involved (ok, maybe not the traders  ) and I am glad you are looking at its bright side. 
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Posted By: Hadus
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 12:45
Poor Rorgash has nothing left to smash. Aww :( Let's stash this quote away until you find yourself on the losing end of a major war. (Assuming you haven't lost before? ) ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/157483" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 12:48
| mmmmmmmmmm, now what? is the war over or what? i guess back waiting for the next tournament or the launch of broken lands, or maybe, just maybe two other groups will start warring?...but is this war really over? or was this just another one of those statements trying to deter current and planned military operations? |
Posted By: bansisdead
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 12:55
Hadus, that is a big IF, unlike most (if not all) of the other big alliances, and confeds for that matter, the BSH/Dominion of the Darkstar is mainly located in one area. Every Dominion town within the Mal Motsha area is surrounded by hundreds of other allied towns, making defense of the Dominion very easy compared to other confeds! ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/124253" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Kale
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 13:31
Why not just tell them about our plan to call ourselves "Bread" too? :P
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Posted By: bansisdead
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 13:43
damn I've let the cat out of the bag, sry Kale :) ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/124253" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 13:46
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Pain - works well for an Orc centered confederacy though perhaps my translation is off since I took latin and not french during HS. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: bansisdead
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 13:50
pain au chocolat?Pain aPain au chocolatu chocolat------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/124253" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 14:29
| ee is still red, was this some sort of ploy, shanks head....makes u wonder |
Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 14:34
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Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 14:56
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Just to add some clarification: This post by Hath is in no way indicative that hostilities have or will cease. It is at best a framework upon which to build. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/26125" rel="nofollow"> |
Posted By: Daefis
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 16:54
| I can confirm that VIC are seeking terms through the embassy. |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 17:09
From VIC's Alliance Profile: Confederations We are a proud member of http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/consone_topic3746.html" rel="nofollow - Consone - a confederacy of 11 Illyriad alliances brought together by a common goal.
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Posted By: Elmindra
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 17:59
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TD, This is a game of weeks and months, not everything happens at the speed of light especially not a complete re-write of an alliance profile. Surely you are aware of this, so I don't see the need to continually needle and question intent. ------------- 
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 18:09
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Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 18:10
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Posted By: Elmindra
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 18:22
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Understandable, and once again it takes time to notify everyone in game of a change of plans. Not counting any armies already in the field. For instance, if EE made terms with H? today, we would not hold a number of attacks that are still over a week out against them as a breaking of an accord. Once set in motion there is no way to change it. Time is something everyone in Illy has quite a bit of, and time is what it takes for everyone to communicate and come to arrangements. -------------
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 19:18
Dropping Confeds takes a few seconds. Not weeks or months. Deleting a line of text also only takes a moment, not weeks or months. The Absa armies appear to have been launched in defense of WE after Hath's announcement which demonstrates Absa has a different view than Hath.
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Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 19:52
| i have been told to continue my attacks against the targeted reds, shame its taking so long, shame alliance members are paying the price of the slowness and stubborness of their leaders shakes head at the announcement before the complete surrender |
Posted By: Grego
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 20:19
Since you are so meticulous you should know how long it takes for those armies to arrive from MK. You just can't resist to use every possible excuse for further hostilities. I bet you already calculated those loses with some fatty interest. |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 20:27
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Grego, Consone has repeatedly demonstrated that they are untrustworthy. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice ... not gonna happen.
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Posted By: Kitti
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 20:35
| Just for you The_Dude it took my army 22 hours to reach that siege and at the time this forum was started last night i was enjoying drinks with friends, if i had know you would be upset about my army attacking sieges i would have offered you a drink to take the edge off :D |
Posted By: Grego
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 20:37
| I always try to talk clear, can't remember when you were fooled by me or my alliance. Since Consone is no more you can skip that part. |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 20:42
| We applaud the decision to dissolve Consone. But at this time there is no peace yet. H?, on behalf of The Coalition is in talks with most, if not all of the former members of the Consone side individually now. Hopefully those talks progress rapidly so we can have peace. But until such a time as there is agreement, we are still at war with these individual entities. |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 20:50
| Well put Kumo, nice to see a mature approach, good luck to all involved. |
Posted By: Neytiri
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 20:56
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So, if I'm under attack am I still expected to cease hostilities? I love the Harmful [H?] approach to peace. |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 21:05
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H? does not expect anyone we are at war with to cease hostilities until we are no longer at war. We never said we do. I'm not sure that initiating lots of attacks on us will improve these negotiations. I am sure that putting words in our mouth that we never uttered and making snide comments is probably not the best negotiating tactic. |
Posted By: Grego
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 21:21
| Let me just note that Jorcle is diplomat in Absa, and he will negotiate with H? representative. |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 22:50
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A ------------- "ouch...best of luck." HonoredMule |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 22:55
| LOL, Lawn. |
Posted By: bansisdead
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2013 at 23:11
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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we." dubya bush Is this dude consones diplo? ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/124253" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: ropadope
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 00:55
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TD You are an instigator...just leave it alone and let the peace process proceed...It does take time for hostilities to wind down. Leave it alone and let the entities who are negotiating work things out. Salutes all involved in the Peace process for the work that has been put in. stay hippy ropa edit for grammar
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Posted By: Beecks
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 01:04
He's Metternich compared to Neytiri
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 01:43
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Posted By: Elmindra
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 02:04
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Well since this was a simple declaration of intent to disolve and declare defeat and directly deal with H? as they wish and you still make instigating remarks throughout the entire process, I would say that is exactly what you are being. -------------
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Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 02:22
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since they sueing for peace why doesnt their membership just pack up and leave their leaders to finish the war until they wise up and give to the demands, why does their membership continue to remain red? if they want peace so bad why not just disband their alliances....it doesnt make sense, let us target ur leaders and get out of this, its not fair to any member that is not in leadership to suffer more. our leaders would not expect the same from us...shakes head at this leadership misuse of their membership it is now ur leaderships fault for any more that happens. this peace process is like the war, its totally misplayed! |
Posted By: ropadope
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 02:33
| *wonders what leadership role twiglet has? |
Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 02:37
| i am head dancer and body painter...come on over, i got a pretty pink color to try on you and we can do the hockey pokey....grins |
Posted By: ropadope
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 02:40
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You are funny...I prefer Glitter tho
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Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 02:52
| yes i am a spy for the silly hats but i laughing too hard to get enough air to figure out how to do it...u mean enemies...bow to your wishes..er i mean my wishes..i.surrender! er i am disolving my cheerleading squad and admit i am stealing cheers from the other team but that will take some time, so in the mean time free feel to attack all my team mates cause i worried that i might not come out with my hair looking good, i just thought i would say this and i hope everyone is as confused as i am cause i am totally clue less , wait letss do more cheers! omg puke puke puke, why are not others laughing? |
Posted By: ropadope
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 02:56
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I am officially changing my avatar....after this post
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Posted By: GM Luna
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 02:59
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Please stay on topic. If you need to talk to eachother 1 on 1 you can do so in PMs. Luna ------------- GM Luna | Illyriad Community Manager | community@illyriad.co.uk 
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Posted By: Arctic55
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 03:15
I was thinking the same. ------------- I'm pressed but not crushed. Persecuted but not abandoned. Struck down but not destroyed. |
Posted By: HATHALDIR
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 03:28
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Let me clarify again, Consone no longer exists as an entity, all negociations will take place with individual alliances. As far as the Eagles are concerned, we are beginning to talk surrender with H? Hostilities have not ceased, topic has not even been discussed. If members of any alliance is still being attacked there are a few possble reasons
Good Luck to all HATH ------------- There's worse blokes than me!! |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 07:37
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Placing blame on leadership basis speed and/or direction of cessation talks is misplaced. Being part of an alliance is being a team player. Working towards a team goal, not an individual. From personal experience alliance leaders no matter position or belief act at all times with their members interests at heart. This is the fundamental nature of an alliance and is the basis of its constitution. The above is of course a generality. But one based in truth. I write as the assertion that alliance leaders are not acting in accordance with their membership interest at heart is false. ------------- "ouch...best of luck." HonoredMule |
Posted By: Rorgash
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 12:15
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already sent attacks would not hit if you stopped being at war ;) so this is load of bull and we should just eradicate all of you just to be sure your genes dont continue to spread in Illyriad. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 12:36
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Thanks, Llyorn, for this quite necessary post. +1 In addition, Sages is opening an account in H?'s embassy, too... (if we get accepted  )There might still be fighting, as there are still active siege camps, but as Kumo stated, we have no intention for prolonging the war, but won't stand back, until we have the proper terms on how this ends. BSH has jumped up onto a already running train, so don't complain, when we reach a station in the end.  I don't know, where you take all this hatred, nor do I actually understand the reasons, why BSH joined in.  But please either talk sense or shut up. This thread is one of the first for a long time with more logic than trolling, and it would be nice if it could stay like that...
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 13:31
If it makes you feel better, I think you have been incredibly trollish and trying to instigate hostilities as well, so they're not alone. -------------  |
Posted By: Juswin
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 15:05
whoa chow down on the hate man. or orc. whatever. you won, okay? no need to eradicate us anymore. oh and one more thing. spread the genes? that is impossible. biological reproduction is a characteristic of real, living organisms, such as humans and dogs. bacteria even. how we, ex-Consone members now, who exist as electronic data stored in servers in the UK are able to spread our genes in this fictional world is beyond the realm of possibility. if you'd like i can teach you elementary genetics. though seeing as you are an orc, that is also beyond the realm of possibility.
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Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 15:37
We could try with worms and viruses... I'm told those work online, too
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 15:47
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Posted By: tansiraine
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 16:35
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ok all ya all stop this and behave!! We all know troops in motion will hit.. we all know until an agreement is made it is war as usual. If and when a cease fire happens when talks are going on I am sure everyone will be made aware. No need to rub salt in open wounds.. The war is winding down. Both sides have learned things personally i can not wait till the next tournament to see how the play will change. Let the leaders and their diplo people do their jobs and hammer out the agreements with out all the hate it time to move pass all this and go forward. |
Posted By: Rorgash
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 17:19
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yea.. i guess i better grab and kill as much as i can before that happens.. now where is the closest enemy town... -------------
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Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 18:00
| well sounds like its all leader talk right now, personally i am changing to a peace economy and let them work out details, as usual this will not include anything the rank and file want, just the power brokers that got us into this conflict anyways...did i say conflict, i meant punishment of certain individuals...good luck leaders! have fun! thanks to all the people that came back to play, guess we might meet up again when the leaders want to push each other around again.....back to making weapons and leveling commanders and killing npcs...when is broken lands starting? |
Posted By: Sisren
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 18:22
Join Dark Empire and find out. Otherwise, remain in mystery... Nothing is as it seems. ------------- Illy is different from Physics- Reactions are rarely Equal, and rarely the opposite of what you'd expect... |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 20:36
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Posted By: tansiraine
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2013 at 22:13
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bad TD... don;t make me put you in time out...
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Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 08:06
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I'd like to write that I'm (with impressively few exceptions) very impressed with the mature level of (always healthy) debate and discourse in this thread. The matter is one which is controversial and open to emotion. Justifiably so. My thanks and admiration to those which have contributed to this thread in a genuine, honest and respectful manner, and as such, it is one which we should be proud. I am. ------------- "ouch...best of luck." HonoredMule |
Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 13:33
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rolls eyes,, until i am told the peace talks are over, whatever the results i am standing down. for awhile the opposition has been totally non aggressive. personally, as a warmonger i have been extremely disappointed. in our last siege they even moved the castle to avoid the attack (hint hint). there comes a time when it just becoming some sort of sick bullying. this game hasnt been been played as war and we are seeing the results. people just dont play a balance game and the devs need to take note. there is a large segment of gamers that stay away from this game because of this type of game play. and everyone remember we are playing an online game, real life morals and ethics have nothing to do with game play. just dont break the very liberal rules. broken lands please hurry and open. leaders, make peace quickly so we can stop pretending we are warring! |
Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 13:54
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Would anyone in [VIC] care to comment on the forming of [RED.]? What is your current relation to the player Invictusa/Cthulhua, and do you know if he has simply grown tired of the game? |
Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 14:14
| would the leaders of the other side just surrender and accept terms? you are not even fighting, its terrible play for the game. its totally unfair to people on the other side and your own membership. |
Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 14:15
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[Red.] is a one player project... personally friendly, but officially independent... I fear you won't get a surrender from him... VIC still stands true to surrender, but we can't force players to follow us into peace...
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Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 14:19
ehm... what? Please again and slowly, I didn't get that... For month you talked about the evil leaders leading their members in a war they don't want, now you say the same about surrender? We DO still fight, AND are waiting for terms. We broke two or three sieges yesterday, plus stand to our word. What is your point exactly?!
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Posted By: Jorcle
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 14:22
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gameplayer did you have specific terms in mind or where you suggesting any old terms. We would probably like to know them in advance of signing and it is even possible our membership might wish a degree of discussion. Perhaps you should leave us too it for a while. |
Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 14:42
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in other games u kill the leaders first, we not seeing any aggressive response in the west and are told that people are off limits to attacks, that we are only allow to take so many castles from people, maybe its different elsewhere, but in the west the war has become some sort of weird punishment play. total example of this is that alagos is totally off limits. if this was a true war that account would have been pushed out completely. other accounts are placed in weak positions that havent been touched. i think only a few attacks have been done against us. otherwords we are bored to death. when i write to the opposing team the response is that they are showing no aggression against us and even one individual moved to a neutral alliance. we are told there are peace talks going on but now i am hearing there are no terms? our side has been totally fair to the other side. surrender or start fighting, our side should allow us to unleash full power against them if they dont accept. people have a choice to stay in warring alliances, if the other side doesnt accept terms, lets kills their leaders not their membership. we might see a different tune sung if the punishment is directed at the right people, the ones that led them into this conflict and placed them in such weak positions. unleash us when ur ready, we will show no mercy as long as they are red but unleash us. growl, foaming at the bit...let us kill kill kill |
Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 14:54
| Gameplayer please take a timeout. |
Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 16:19
+1 I echo the same sentiments. I have great appreciation for the hard work by all parties required in the process and we are all doing our best to move forward in private discussions. Continued trolling on this topic will not impede nor will it delay discussions between alliance leaders, so it serves no purpose to continue. ------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless? "Truth never dies." -HonoredMule |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 17:35
| LoJ, Starry way to go. |
Posted By: Detritus
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 20:17
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Hi Forum, as there are already many threads on the topic, I'll recycle this one _________________________________________________________ The alliance Sages of Illyriad officially surrenders to given Coalition terms. Sages will cease all hostilities, and stop assitance to alliances still at war. For ensurance of this, all diplomacy contacts will be cancelled until further notice (as already discussed in this thread). Both sides agreed to keep the rest of these terms confidential. ________________________________________________________________ Many thanks to Starry, KP, and the rest of the Coalition for enabling fast and comfortable talks.
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Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 20:30
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Thank you Detritus and we look forward to moving forward into peace. ------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless? "Truth never dies." -HonoredMule |
Posted By: tansiraine
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 20:34
YAY  Sages!!can't wait to hug everyone else!! lets hurry up and do this!!
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 21:10
Congrats to SAGES. 
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Posted By: ropadope
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2013 at 20:42
| salute Sage!!! |
Posted By: bansisdead
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2013 at 22:12
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bunga bunga
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Posted By: Grego
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2013 at 08:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui5ZDx7mzBk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui5ZDx7mzBk |