One member of RES has advocated peace, even as early as November 11 (Armistice Day).  Mostly because that player wanted RES to recruit newbs again and the storage was overflowing with res.  

That said, RES does have members that are "private" and do their own thing without regard to the war which is fine in RES.  The RES Tax Man appears at their cities weekly, too.  Hehehe.

This war has taught me a lot, among those understanding changes in mechanics since my last warring experience.  It's 1 thing to read an announcement, and it is another thing to actually work within the change.

The most valuable thing I have learned in this war is who I can trust and where I have misplaced my trust before.  This is knowledge that can only come from the stresses of war.

It's not the vocal few but the silent many.  The forums aren't a place where most players bother to venture. There can't be more than a hundred or so people who regularly use it and having a non-sanctioned opinion doesn't get very far.

It's clear Coalition is winning the morale war. Consone alliances are all looking to end the war. But I believe circumstances are being setup for a much larger war to occur in the future. Only through negotiation will true peace occur, and The Dude has hinted that it isn't a possibility. Most likely Consone will be forced to agree to Coalition demands, just like the vocal minority of the senate was forced to agree to Emperor Palpatines new Empire... but give it time and a rebellion will occur. 

Seriously though, we have seen a mass migration from quite a few members after the start of the war.  Alliances that could find themselves in a war situation had best learn from Consone mistakes (and to a certain extent Coal).  If you are not geographically localized and secure you WILL lose towns, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.  I razed a town and watched as hundreds of prestige was spent, but due to how isolated it was there was no hope of rescue.

New confeds have been formed or have grown in size primarily because of this.  I think a good example is the Dark Star Dominion, who in my opinion may be one of the most powerful confeds in the game simply because of their geographical location and density.  No longer can an alliance or confederation of alliances be spread willy nilly all over Illyriad.  Weather or not this leads to a future war with regional battle lines drawn is another debate, but it could lead to some interesting times once TBL is released.

Oh, and we learned that walls mean jack.

Dibbs on Chewie. 

Also I don't want to de-rail the OP, so feel free to sen dme in-game mail on anything i posted outside of the original topic. 

Indeed, BSH, SCH, Tcol and Cok ( the "start" of the dominion) are for a long time now mutch mutch stronger that is mere "numbers" would say. Not only is the more "dense/concentrated force" in illy, but is also a very well coordinated force that is also able to move/act like one force.

Density, strength, coordination and focus. that is lethal.

And to had past alliances thinking that they could mess whit one of them, is prove for me, that in general a lot in illy din't see the huge potential there.

And now reinforced in numbers by new allies.

anyway... good things in this war... well from time to time, i get to see whats look like hundred of yellow army's and diplos pass by my towns.. looks pretty.

But more importantly is how WW2 ended.

To suggest that leaving a defeated party with harsh reparations is somehow worse than burning and leveling cities seems absurd on its face.

And how does WW1 explain Japan's involvement in WW2?  Or China?

[1] If you are a trader and you haven't made a bloody fortune, you've no one to blame but yourself

[2] New city locations opening up

[3] People twiddling their thumbs in the sandbox, wondering why everything we have is for making troops, making stronger troops or making troops faster?  Now we know.

I suggested no such thing, as Illyriad is neither real life nor Star Wars.  

As to WWI leading to WWII, the German army wasn't crushed in the field, leaving many to believe that they could have fought on and had only lost due to a political stab in the back at home.  This resentment, combined with a punishment that Germans believed was undeserved and excessive, allowed Hitler to rise to power as an advocate of a militarily supreme and ideologically pure reich.  They also got the impression that you could steamroll Britain and France if you hit them hard and fast, that American troops were numerous but not that effective, and that Russia couldn't fight its way out of a paper bag.  All an enticement to go for round two.

Round Two ended with a lot of Germany burned and leveled, their military shredded, and an uncomfortable choice between surrender to the west and begging for mercy or conquest by Russia and a few decades of Stalin's tender mercies.  They made a choice and it worked out well for them.  This is not a recommendation for any future human or computer wars, just an observation.

The other Axis powers, Japan and Italy, both jumped into WWI on the allied side, hoping for big winnings when the reparations and former German or Ottoman colonies were handed out.  They felt that the Versailles Treaty screwed them and their participation left them more problems than gains.  When Germany rebuilt itself and grew stronger after the war and started looking for allies, they found friends in three former enemies who no longer trusted the British and the French.

But again, that is history and not Illyriad, it has nothing to do with the current in-game war, only an observation on human nature.

Sorry to inform you but they already added Dragons.  Now I just want to be able to have one in my army :D

Finally the +8% equipment may be worth it if I give it to a dragon.

In the words of Stan Marsh...  'Sick Dude!'

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