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Topic: Farewell Illyriad
Posted By: Jasche
Subject: Farewell Illyriad
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 17:57

I have been discussing with alliance leaders in Consone and the officers within Invictus that I plan to step down from my role as leader of Invictus and leave the game very soon.

In terms of what is happening I know this is not good timing for my friends in the game. I would have preferred to see out the war but sadly I have been grinning and bearing it for some time, but that has just meant that I have shown less and less interest in the game, and that is not sustainable either as a leader of a large alliance nor as a player within that alliance.

The reason I am leaving is that I am tired of the game and it is taking more away from life than it is giving. Regardless of the rhetoric that has peppered the forums I want to make it clear that I had no desire for the war that is upon us and that the setting up of Consone and the related confederations was merely that of bringing together some friendly alliances. This is something I have stated time without number so either I am either a consistent liar, or maybe I am telling the truth.... whatever I say, the folk who are on here will have already decided for themselves. Bear in mind that we have asked for peace on all available forums - we have been ignored.

As I have said, the game is taking away more than it is giving - the constant checking of the account, daily answering of mails and sorting out of issues has taken its toll but I guess the energy has been sapped most of all by the some of the lies and vitriol spread on the public forum in regard to a war I did not want to enter. For me this is not about winning or losing but about showing compassion and being mature even in war. And it is the lack of maturity and compassion I see about me, which leads me to this decision - it is after all, a game. Most of all - I prize my real life above my Illy life, and to do my alliance justice I would need to give more of my real life to Illy - something I am not prepared to do anymore.

I have 6 or 7 real life friends who play Illy scattered about various alliances and the like. There was a time we would get together and discuss the various goings on and the game in general - that doesn't happen anymore. They are all either about to give up the game or are winding down their activity. I put this down to some of the maturity levels that we thought were somewhat higher than they are, but also the fact that the game has become a grind... harvesting, trading and war have all moved the game towards Time x Money = Success. Now... don't get me wrong, I still think you need to be clever and tactical to maximise what you do, but I do think the game has increasing amounts of grind - something we have all commented on in our group of friends.

And please let me be clear, this is naturally my opinion in regard to the game - I can see many people who continue to enjoy the game and will have a different take on things.

It is sad to be leaving on such a negative note so I want to do a few thank yous and farewells:

The Developers - You have worked hard to develop an excellent game and I do not envy you the challenge of developing the game and sustaining the sandbox features into the future. Balance is what I think you should be looking for - so good luck with that.

My Alliance - Invictus has been an excellent alliance generally populated by the most excellent people. We have tried in my time to treat people with respect and be a positive alliance and I think we have achieved that. We certainly haven't got it right all of the time, but the right intentions have been there. Sloter will take over the reigns as our new Consul - he is an excellent player and person as well.

I am aware that I have spoken about issues I have with the community but there are some great people in the community who are a pleasure to speak with and be around. They know who they are, as they are the people I have told I was leaving before making this post. Thanks to all of you who have made the game an excellent place to be in.

So, good luck in the future to all of you. The game will be what it will be and people will come and go as they either enjoy it or not. But I would ask you to remember this -

'There are real people behind the keyboards of this game' - for me it is a game, and nothing more, but some folk will invest a lot of time and money into it, and care deeply about the game. Their views may be different to yours and they may even be a pain in the arse themselves - but if you approach all with respect and compassion I do think the game will be a better place for that.... regardless of who wins wars, owns resources etc...

Good luck in the future everyone,

J



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Replies:
Posted By: ElfLark
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 18:02
Jasche, may your dreams of Illyriad be sweet rememberances.

Singing you farewell~
Lark


Posted By: ES2
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 18:25
Hm,

I would say sad to see another player go, especially one that started the game when I started but as you say, Real Life is more important than the game.

 Been a pleasure gaming with you Jasche, see you around.


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Posted By: Deranzin
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 18:45
Good luck to your future endeavours and best wishes for health and happiness. :) 


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 18:51
I am sorry to see yet another veteran player leave, especially one who has contributed so much to Illyriad.  Jasche, you have been a voice of reason and a port in the storm of rhetoric that has been spun around recent Illyriad events.  Illy needs more people like you, not fewer.

Congratulations to Sloter and best wishes to you and VIC.


Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 19:13
 I must agree that the game is moving towards grind with trade 2. I understand why your leaving and GL with whatever you chose to do next.


Posted By: Loud Whispers
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 19:20
Highly unfortunate to see someone with such a positive role in the Illy community depart. Journey well.


Posted By: Grego
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 19:27
I am sorry how it turned out, looking back not sure could it happen different way. Thank you for all, Jashke, be well.


Posted By: The Duke
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 19:31
Not much i want to say here in the public forum regarding this, but I wish you well my friend and hope life brings you happiness. 

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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 19:54
I wish you well in the future, Jasche, but "Bear in mind that we have asked for peace on all available forums - we have been ignored" is an out and out lie. Just because you are dramatically throwing your toys out of the pram doesn't give you a license to lie. We have told you what you need to do to end this war you started. Nobody has ignored you.

Be well and good luck with your future endeavors.


Posted By: Taelin
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 20:01
Fare well Jasche,

It has been a pleasure to travel some way with you.


Posted By: Jasche
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 20:25
Kumo,

It is not an out and out lie. I asked to discuss terms of peace between VIC and H? on 31st December on your forums. You did not respond. You informed us previously you would only deal with alliances separately and not under the Consone umbrella, hence my request for peace discussions.

And... I am not throwing my toys out of the pram Kumo, I am giving an honest, open and hopefully respectful account of why I am leaving, accepting that others will indeed have a different opinion and have their own ways of playing the game. In light of this, I would thank you kindly to refrain from telling me what I am doing.

More importantly, many thanks to those who have messaged me and posted here. It at least makes me glad to think that for some part people's experience of me was a positive one, cheers.


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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 20:40
Originally posted by Jasche Jasche wrote:

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 I asked to discuss terms of peace between VIC and H? on 31st December on your forums. 
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"Discuss terms"?

I understand that you have been given terms.  When you say "discuss" I think you mean "negotiate".  In other words, you have rejected the terms offered and seek milder terms.  No response from H? would indicate that H? rejected your request for milder terms.  Hence the war continues.

Abdication is not a path to peace.


Posted By: Jasche
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 20:43
VIC have not been offered any terms of peace - if someone whats to IGM me those terms whilst I am still around then that would be great. That is what I am saying.

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Posted By: AZADICAN
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 21:02
Jasche,
Ik understand your reasons of leaving because of RL issues, but still sad to see such a mature gamer leaving Illy. Good luck with your RL.
Greetings,
Azad



Posted By: geofrey
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 21:53
Smart man to know your limitations and prioritize your personal life... I don't know that I have the will power to do that. 

Great playing with you while it lasted. Farewell. 


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Posted By: Buridan
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 22:11
Jasche,

You're a class act, and I say that based on the days well before we were allied with Consone.  Best of luck in the future and maybe we'll cross paths again when the perfect MMORTS is developed.


Posted By: Cilcain
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 23:06
Jasche,

You will be missed.  Those of us that know you, know your honesty and integrity - despite the constant propagandist tosh that emanates from certain players on this forum.

Keep the music playing....have fun...

Cilcain


Posted By: Tatharion
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 23:10
Jasche,

It has been a true honor to share these moments in Illyriad while you were leading Invictus. You have been an outstanding player and Consul, always balanced and fair. You should be proud of your achievements. We will always keep our heads high in your memory.

And on behalf of all VIC's players we wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

Godspeed,

Tatharion


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Posted By: Diomedes
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 01:38
Thank you for all that you have given to the game, Jasche, and for the high ethical and moral standards that you have consistently displayed in your dealings with others. You have served Illy well - may RL now serve you just as well.

Safe journeying


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Posted By: Beecks
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 01:55
You always struck me as a cool guy. I am really sorry to see you go but good luck to you and I hope you come back to visit.


Posted By: Qaal
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 04:30
Truly sorry to see you go, Jasche. I can think of precious few players who equal your ability to maintain dignity, decency, respect in even the most contentious forums.


Posted By: HATHALDIR
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 06:53
Jasche, now is the time as a newly married man time set up your life in front of you with the bride! Go have fun, get some perspective, tour with the band, then when everything is calm again, come back and say hello! Not farewell, just until the next time!

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Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 09:24
Farewell mate, well played. Good luck on your future journey, Illy will remember you well for the remainder of its existence.


Posted By: scaramouche
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 11:34
Good luck for the future Jasche, truly a very sad day for Illy to loose a respected man.
 
I'll try to ignore Kumo's and TD's attempt to turn a simple farewell post into another slanging fest.


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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 15:32
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Good luck for the future Jasche, truly a very sad day for Illy to loose a respected man.
 

I'll try to ignore Kumo's and TD's attempt to turn a simple farewell post into another slanging fest.


Try reading next time. He took the opportunity to try to get his last forum licks in and I couldn't let such a blatant untruth stand. If he didn't want discussion, he could have kept it to a farewell only post instead of trying futily to make some final political hay...


Posted By: Deranzin
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 15:41
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:


I'll try to ignore Kumo's and TD's attempt to turn a simple farewell post into another slanging fest.

If a "simple" farewell spanned a whole page how much would he write if they ever give him a prize and he has to make an "elaborate" speech .?. LOL Tongue

Edit:
Prize, not price ... oops 


Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 15:51
Sad to see you go Jasche.. But there are times in real life that are more exciting than games. You are such a dear person and someone now deserves your time and attention more than Illy. Big smile 
Go happy and come back happy again some day! Beer




Posted By: scaramouche
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 16:12
Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:


I'll try to ignore Kumo's and TD's attempt to turn a simple farewell post into another slanging fest.

If a "simple" farewell spanned a whole page how much would he write if they ever give him a prize and he has to make an "elaborate" speech .?. LOL Tongue

Edit:
Prize, not price ... oops 
A respected and long time Illy player is entitled to an elaborate speech...I'd expect it from any such player..including Kumo (if he ever left). :)
I'd be disappointed if he only said " I'm leaving...goodbye "

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Posted By: Dvalin
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 17:45
Originally posted by Jasche Jasche wrote:


The reason I am leaving is that I am tired of the game and it is taking more away from life than it is giving.
[...]
the constant checking of the account, daily answering of mails and sorting out of issues has taken its toll
[...]
also the fact that the game has become a grind... harvesting, trading and war have all moved the game towards Time x Money = Success.

Those were my reasons too, you said it spot on, thanks.
And I'd add: not introducing tools to deal with that increasing complexity, like for instance a dashboard page, but much more should be made available to increase playability.
Pity, because I would have probably stayed,at least a while longer...
but like you said
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it is after all, a game
indeed!

Cheers! <S>


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 19:49
I am also sad to see Dvalin go.  Farewell, dwarf friend.


Posted By: Daefis
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 22:43
Sorry to see you go Jasche but I totally understand your reasons.
Probably the sanest member of the illy community is out of here..... 
Hopefully catch you at one of your gigs soon :)


Posted By: BenDover
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 23:29
Jasche,

Truly sorry to see you leave although it is totaly understandable that you did!
Good luck with your future ventures my friend!

Wishing the best for you!
Farewell my friend


Posted By: Progressor
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2013 at 23:37

*Fires a salute arrow for Jasche*

Take care



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Posted By: Dvalin
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2013 at 11:52
Thanks Rill,

I'll miss many of you and some of Illy, that's what makes me linger on the forum :-)
also, some threads are quite... entertaining.


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2013 at 12:49
Farewell, both off you!


Posted By: Ossian
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2013 at 13:48
Farewell Jasche - diplomat extraodinaire. A very good opening post which most players can relate to Clap
Farewell Dvalin - stalwart. A solid no nonsense player  Thumbs Up
 
Both are good and respected players.  I raise my glass to you both Beer
 
 


Posted By: deorasandeep
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2013 at 18:01
Hope you will be around helping us  on monthends or quarterends (90 day limit) 
you may retire your active role but b here to watch 

deora


Posted By: Deranzin
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 10:10
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:


I'll try to ignore Kumo's and TD's attempt to turn a simple farewell post into another slanging fest.

If a "simple" farewell spanned a whole page how much would he write if they ever give him a prize and he has to make an "elaborate" speech .?. LOL Tongue

Edit:
Prize, not price ... oops 
A respected and long time Illy player is entitled to an elaborate speech...I'd expect it from any such player..including Kumo (if he ever left). :)
I'd be disappointed if he only said " I'm leaving...goodbye "

This is quite true, but I just found that "simple" amusing. Smile


Posted By: Bonaparta
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 10:34
Farewell Jasche and Dvalin.

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Posted By: Thes Hunter
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 21:05
Farewell Jasche. I wish you luck in all your endeavors. I have great respect for you, and wish you all the best.

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Posted By: scaramouche
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 21:45
Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:


I'll try to ignore Kumo's and TD's attempt to turn a simple farewell post into another slanging fest.

If a "simple" farewell spanned a whole page how much would he write if they ever give him a prize and he has to make an "elaborate" speech .?. LOL Tongue

Edit:
Prize, not price ... oops 
A respected and long time Illy player is entitled to an elaborate speech...I'd expect it from any such player..including Kumo (if he ever left). :)
I'd be disappointed if he only said " I'm leaving...goodbye "

This is quite true, but I just found that "simple" amusing. Smile
Hahah...I guess the use of the word  " simple "..wasn't quite right lolz.

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Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2013 at 23:34
Farewell Jansch.

I am truly sorry to see you leave. This was by no means any Coalition member's goal.
I am personally saddened by your departure and barring your hopeful return one day wish you well in all your future endeavors. Ive always found you fair and reasonable and you take with you my deep respect.

All the best. 
Lawn


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Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2013 at 05:40
Impressive LoJ.



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