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Trader gone after trying to send to a faction hub

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Topic: Trader gone after trying to send to a faction hub
Posted By: Machete
Subject: Trader gone after trying to send to a faction hub
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2012 at 03:37
I have entered a petition already. Just wondering if other peeps have had this issue. Or is it suppose to happen?

I tried sending a Trader to a faction hub that wouldn't accept it.  I guess my standing is too low.



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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2012 at 03:40
I have heard others say that they lost a trader after sending to a hub where their standing was too low.


Posted By: Llyr
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2012 at 04:17
Excellent; I've got 2 useless traders I've been moving to numerous local hubs that have nothing worthwhile to offer. Now I know how to get rid of them. Please don't change this Smile.

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Posted By: Samalander
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2012 at 04:38
 Why don't you make offer to buy something  cheaper than the price at centrum then ship it there to sell.


Posted By: Llyr
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2012 at 05:41
I don't think anyone would fill a buy order at a local hub if the offer price is lower than Centrum; they'll fill the order at Centrum and get the higher price. And placing a buy order with an offer price higher than Centrum is a money-loser; I can just place the order in Centrum and match the best offer price there. Sell orders at local hubs also tend to be counterproductive; most people are trying to sell at higher prices than Centrum, so it's unlikely their orders will be filled.

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Posted By: Epidemic
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2012 at 05:55
Did you research faction markets? I know of several players who lost their traders because they didn't research faction markets.


Posted By: Machete
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 02:52
Yes...faction markets researched



Posted By: Eddy
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2013 at 07:05
Originally posted by Epidemic Epidemic wrote:

Did you research faction markets? I know of several players who lost their traders because they didn't research faction markets.

That sounds like an epic violation of the principle of least surprise. If sending a trader to a Hub can't possibly work, the UI should indicate this at the point where it's attempted, or simply not offer the option of doing it. If the user does it anyway, the trader should turn round, on reaching the Hub that doesn't welcome him, and come home; or, failing that, the user should get an IGM or a (military) notification saying the Hub's rulers killed the trader on arrival, just like when scouts fail or harvesters run into unfriendly occupiers. All of these would be less surprising than silently letting the user send a trader who'll then silently vanish for no apparent reason.


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Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2013 at 08:20
Maybe thats part of Trade V2.1?

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Posted By: Hoko
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2013 at 17:34
Thank you for the info folks.

I can confirm that if you send a trader to a faction hub you have a low standing with you will loose your trader. You will receive an error message telling you that your standing with the faction is too low to trade there. They don't mention that your trader has been slaughtered though.


Posted By: Forrie
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 13:49
Originally posted by Hoko Hoko wrote:

I can confirm that if you send a trader to a faction hub you have a low standing with you will loose your trader. You will receive an error message telling you that your standing with the faction is too low to trade there. They don't mention that your trader has been slaughtered though.

Personally I would prefer to hear that this is in fact the case from a Dev in response to my 6 month old petition...


Posted By: GM Luna
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 16:51
This issue was addressed in this update:

http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/05apr13-updates_topic4945.html

Luna

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Posted By: Janosch
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 19:46
Originally posted by Llyr Llyr wrote:

I don't think anyone would fill a buy order at a local hub if the offer price is lower than Centrum; they'll fill the order at Centrum and get the higher price. And placing a buy order with an offer price higher than Centrum is a money-loser; I can just place the order in Centrum and match the best offer price there. Sell orders at local hubs also tend to be counterproductive; most people are trying to sell at higher prices than Centrum, so it's unlikely their orders will be filled.

That is not what I have been observing.


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Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 22:02
@Janosch: Nor I.


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2013 at 22:06
I buy at lower prices than Centrum and sell at higher prices than Centrum many times a day.

Location, Location, Location.


Posted By: Machete
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2013 at 21:49
once a week I buy or sell to The_Dude at his ridiculous prices!!!

I should get a discount Smile


Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2013 at 02:38
This topic is wandering a bit.

For unit production resources, you can sell higher than Centrum prices because you are adding the value of quicker delivery. Many big players will happily pay 10-20% more if they can get 10000 suits of chainmail in 5h instead of 22h. I've made good profits selling locally during the tournament.



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