Tournament VI - Dark Harvest - Tournament VI Statistics

Tournament VI Statistics

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Topic: Tournament VI Statistics

Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Subject: Tournament VI Statistics
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 15:26

Hi all,

Some stats for your delectation.

Best,

Replies:

Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 16:18

For Honor & Glory

Top 25 largest battles by casualty count

Date	Region	Attacking Player	Defending Alliance	Attacker Casualties	Defender Casualties	Total Casualties
15-Oct-12	Ursor	Curtin	Soon™	33,280	84,959	118,239
15-Oct-12	Lucerna	Miltiad	Champ	29,367	88,165	117,532
15-Oct-12	Middle Kingdom	nipirt777	Soon™	23,846	81,314	105,160
10-Oct-12	Djebeli	Naper	Crow	25,001	78,802	103,803
11-Oct-12	Djebeli	CanesRule	VICX	39,723	55,012	94,735
10-Oct-12	Djebeli	Naper	Crow	24,001	69,337	93,338
09-Oct-12	Keshalia	Asjeff	nCrow	17,157	75,303	92,460
07-Oct-12	Middle Kingdom	Shadow	Soon™	19,082	68,071	87,153
12-Oct-12	Lucerna	Bonaparta	BSH	24,062	57,870	81,932
03-Oct-12	Lucerna	darkone	Crow	17,210	59,575	76,785
13-Oct-12	Lucerna	Bonaparta	BSH	19,656	51,906	71,562
08-Oct-12	Mal Motsha	xBloodxPoolx	Æsir	22,984	48,000	70,984
07-Oct-12	Wolgast	Kurdruk	Frost	15,001	53,230	68,231
12-Oct-12	Lucerna	Bonaparta	BSH	16,826	51,313	68,139
10-Oct-12	Lucerna	Boromir	Crow	18,517	48,336	66,853
18-Oct-12	Wolgast	Lynce	Crow	13,304	53,188	66,492
09-Oct-12	Norweld	Raritor	mCrow	17,994	47,475	65,469
14-Oct-12	Djebeli	CanesRule	VICX	15,000	50,364	65,364
05-Oct-12	Tor Carrock	Smokey Smoke	WE	24,671	39,703	64,374
10-Oct-12	Lucerna	Hyo	Crow	17,387	46,161	63,548
11-Oct-12	Windlost	HATHALDIR	EE	18,477	45,009	63,486
09-Oct-12	Keshalia	R-Man	nCrow	11,800	51,134	62,934
13-Oct-12	Lucerna	Raatalagk	BSH	13,549	47,642	61,191
10-Oct-12	Lucerna	Hyo	Crow	15,050	44,181	59,231
20-Oct-12	Lucerna	Miltiad	Champ	17,171	41,977	59,148

Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 19:50

King Sigurd wants his Praetorians back

Units killed during tournament square attack

Unit	Casualties in Attack
Knight	1,867,078
Marshal	1,118,594
Elven Trueshot	1,011,377
Charioteer	574,156
Stalwart	453,731
Death Pack	385,015
Runerider	352,569
Man-at-Arms	335,541
Pikeman	328,694
Longbowman	320,891
Swiftsteed	286,879
Phalanx	267,502
Clan Guardsman	244,726
Sentinel	232,556
Kobold Cohort	220,936
Wardancer	206,491
Fist	179,166
Swordsman	172,528
Archer	141,723
Militiaman	128,128
Crossbowman	123,707
Warden	103,596
Protector	93,868
Death Dealer	85,882
Axman	74,508
Packsman	73,969
Halbardier	68,999
Yeoman	59,393
Wolfrider	56,585
Slinger	55,425
Clanguard	24,798
Fang	23,067
Scrawny Wolf	715
Praetorian Guardsman	168
Battery-tower	58
Battering ram	47
Elite Praetorian Guardsman	39
Catapult	22
Mangonel	12
Siege Hook	6
Pure Water Elemental	3
Pure Air Elemental	3
Ballista	2

Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 19:52

Siege Hooks make the best defenders, don't they?

Units killed during tournament square defence

Unit	Casualties in Defence
Elven Trueshot	2,874,059
Knight	1,541,665
Marshal	1,140,132
Longbowman	1,012,852
Pikeman	982,432
Kobold Cohort	970,620
Stalwart	950,202
Clan Guardsman	825,754
Phalanx	687,695
Charioteer	614,283
Man-at-Arms	599,316
Crossbowman	556,543
Sentinel	541,367
Runerider	501,032
Halbardier	492,730
Wardancer	483,877
Swiftsteed	416,626
Militiaman	380,167
Swordsman	354,612
Death Pack	248,149
Archer	241,275
Death Dealer	236,064
Fist	219,382
Axman	212,742
Clanguard	204,793
Protector	185,792
Warden	135,512
Yeoman	129,288
Slinger	101,106
Packsman	100,500
Wolfrider	54,191
Fang	51,985
Scrawny Wolf	1,022
Praetorian Guardsman	233
Elite Praetorian Guardsman	74
Mangonel	18
Battery-tower	18
Catapult	9
Trebuchet	4
Ballista	3
Pure Water Elemental	3
Pure Air Elemental	3
Siege Hook	3

Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 20:00

Elf Abuse

Units killed by Race

Race	Casualties in Attack	Casualties in Defence
Humans	3,868,808	5,726,612
Elves	3,320,881	6,465,081
Dwarves	1,262,361	3,044,164
Orcs	1,220,175	2,810,942
Those poor wolves	715	1,022
Praetorians (sigh)	207	307
Elementals	6	9

Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 20:11

Ouchies

Casualties by Alliance

Alliance	Casualties Taken (Attacking)	Casualties Taken (Defending)
Pending... [Soon™]	743,822	1,877,327
The Crows [Crow]	787,903	1,672,572
Black Skull Horde [BSH]	539,790	1,049,226
Eternal Champions [Champ]	469,027	1,045,102
Calaquendi Crow [Calcr]	497,784	957,944
Crows Nest [nCrow]	373,393	947,407
Murder of Crows [mCrow]	417,913	724,531
Elysian Fields [Shade]	390,653	639,278
Kaendran Crows [KCrow]	273,120	471,092
Order of the Valar [VALAR]	334,013	388,097
MORITURI EAGLES [EE]	222,235	407,186
Cave of Knowledge [CoK]	223,609	380,413
Harmless? [H?]	183,500	410,784
Insanity Inc [II]	215,158	363,248
Invictus [VIC]	172,376	327,570
Worlds End [WE]	197,116	248,830
Fires of Heaven [FoH]	156,954	288,735
Dwarven Lords [Dlord]	119,097	292,277
CHOSEN EAGLES [CE]	125,296	270,619
Fremen Wolf Curse [FreWC]	154,428	241,058
Slaves to Armok [StA]	156,665	235,255
Victrix [VICX]	139,744	251,527
The Crow's Wings [CrowW]	160,516	228,151
Æsir [Æsir]	109,147	229,171
Lords of Frost [Frost]	86,669	210,828
Fairy Road Authority [Roads]	107,201	164,178
The Long Road [TLR™]	94,389	166,562
Eight Hand Crow [eCrow]	74,932	180,933
Semper ad Meliora [{S M}]	102,411	137,630
Illy Training Ground [ITG]	92,215	135,168
Dark Empire [DARK]	64,347	142,973
Skorn [SKR]	84,799	100,832
The Colony [TCol]	47,423	129,382
Worlds End Siegers [WES]	55,835	119,538
Brothers After Death [BAD]	46,404	122,391
Free Defense Union [FDU]	66,282	100,215
Toothless? [T?]	58,955	96,511
SnugglersCrowalition [HUGcr]	46,223	92,309
The Liberation [HEAT]	53,801	73,251
Wheel of Time [WoT]	57,180	63,676
D'Haran Empire [DE]	52,961	66,806
Celtic Knights [XckX]	43,537	69,190
Rhyagelle [RHY]	33,070	76,040
Woodland Realm [WLR]	33,965	73,693
Amicitia [Amt]	35,257	71,415
Shraps Mem Academy [SMA]	36,762	61,673
Heroes of the Horn [HOTH]	35,258	52,384
Night Crusaders [~NC~]	28,560	59,056
The Fighters [TFS]	42,693	40,883
Absaroke [Absa]	26,709	52,610
Alizés [AZ]	23,046	40,270
Curse of the Wolves [Curse]	18,417	35,173
Phoenix Rising [Arise]	20,028	30,499
Free Corps [FREE]	18,454	22,508
Samsara [SMS]	16,285	23,062
The Red Order [T.R.O]	16,771	21,261
The Order [T-O]	9,593	22,975
FORSAKEN [4SAKN]	7,929	21,912
Hammer of Skorn [HSKR]	12,169	17,073
INDOMITI [IND]	7,394	18,640
Eagles First Flight [~FF~]	10,004	11,684
TOR University [TOR-U]	5,933	14,435
Love And Freedom [Laugh]	7,331	9,502
Brown Alliance [POOP]	6,129	9,338
WE TRAIN [WET]	5,643	6,804
Dwarven Druids [Druid]	4,329	8,045
Dwarven in-law [DiL]	3,676	8,516
Unseen University [-=UU=]	4,321	6,699
Steel Dominion [REALM]	4,724	5,850
Faction Supply Union [FSU]	4,308	6,072
The Old Republic [TOR]	3,833	5,950
Inspirations [~!i!~]	5,784	2,799
The Brotherhood [TBH]	3,528	3,968
PRAEVALEO [PRVAL]	2,069	4,131
SkullCrushers Horde [SCH==]	2,530	3,623
Off the Beaten Path [TLR™2]	1,844	4,175
The War Clan [TWC]	1,726	3,745
Orden de Malta [Malta]	2,193	3,186
The Dark Trainers [TDT]	3,260	1,704
Purely Evil [EVIL]	2,669	1,520
Ascension [Rise]	1,495	2,678
Steel Confessors [STEEL]	1,136	2,758
Skulls Training Pit [BSHx]	1,494	2,156
Knights Virtue [~KV~]	1,102	2,039
Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES]	737	1,883
The Nightbringers [~N~]	1,000	1,341
Hells Gate [HG]	467	436
Exercitus Aureii [E/A]	400	171
Empire Of Spain [Spain]	5	383
Aigamuxa [AIG]	121	195
Coyote [COY]	89	175
Tranquil vision. [Peace]	67	196
Rhylet [RHYL]	142	102
Extinct [FLY]	203	40
Tsunami [WAVE]	51	112
Dark Star Academy [DSA]	1	0

Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 02:24

The Pain on the Plain falls mainly on the... um... Plain

Casualties by Terrain Type.

TerrainType	Attacker Casualties	Defender Casualties
Large Forest	1,892,898	3,625,283
Plains	1,800,208	4,260,673
Small Hill	1,735,960	3,358,635
Small Forest	1,607,715	3,062,918
Large Mountain	1,113,498	1,479,599
Small Mountain	815,856	1,046,108
Large Hill	707,018	1,214,921

Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 02:32

Sorry it's not TC's usual stat-a-thon, but he's super-busy on esoteric and uninteresting things - and so I ran them out.

Also, apologies that not everything adds up to the exact figure across all reports. I'm sure this is because I included (for some reports) commander health as casualty damage, but didn't for others.

No matter, the bias/incomplete accuracy for each report will be the same for each rowset, so the sampling error is consistent across each.

Regards,

Posted By: Grainne
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 02:52

Thank you for posting! ("ouch" indeed...........)

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Posted By: shadow
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 02:54

Thanks SC

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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 05:47

Your data is incorrect re: RES. There were many more RES casualties defending Tor Carrock than 1,883.

Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 12:52

Here is what I calculate for Tor Carrock in terms of Alliance casualties Attack, Defending, and Total.

Tor Carrock
Alliance	Attacking Casualties	Defending Casualties	Total
Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES]	120	278546	278666
Worlds End [WE]	138844	0	138844
Calaquendi Crow [Calcr]	5486	91616	97102
Elysian Fields [Shade]	73756	0	73756
Pending... [Soon™]	36629	26250	62879
Insanity Inc [II]	22126	0	22126
The Crows [Crow]	20400	1	20401
Slaves to Armok [StA]	6540	0	6540
Victrix [VICX]	6000	0	6000
Order of the Valar [VALAR]	4217	0	4217
Invictus [VIC]	4196	0	4196
Absaroke [Absa]	4131	0	4131
The Crow's Wings [CrowW]	2692	0	2692
Love And Freedom [Laugh]	2459	0	2459
Orden de Malta [Malta]	2193	0	2193
Dwarven Lords [Dlord]	948	0	948
Inspirations [~!i!~]	941	0	941
Murder of Crows [mCrow]	430	0	430
The Red Order [T.R.O]	200	0	200
Empire Of Spain [Spain]	5	0	5
Heroes of the Horn [HOTH]	0	0	0

Posted By: Mona Lisa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 13:42

The "Top Battle" defender alliance column should be attacker alliance... Curtain was Soon, etc.

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Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 14:21

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

The numbers look correct to me but if you have tallied these numbers and you disagree with them maybe you could send them to me and I can compare.

If you mean something else please clarify.

Thanks,

-A

Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 14:37

Mona Lisa talks about SC's stats, where Kurdruk allegedly attacked Frost, and so on, not about your results for RES in Tor Carrock. Smile

Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 14:38

Oh, thanks.

I read it like 6 times word after word trying to understand. OK, no more forum reading the forum while sick.

-A

Posted By: Loud Whispers
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 17:49

Any chance to see how many enemy troops each alliance has killed?

Posted By: Le Roux
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 17:52

Yes, Mona's comment above was directed to SC as the "For Honor & Glory" list, have all of the attackers attacking their own alliance ; ) Since I have, er, personal knowledge of many of these attacks, I know that indeed the #2 on the list was by Champs on Crow in Lucerna (on behalf of BSH? ) .. 25k of that 88k happened to be one of my trueshot armies ; ) ...

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Posted By: tallica
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 18:44

The_Dude wrote:

Your data is incorrect re: RES. There were many more RES casualties defending Tor Carrock than 1,883.

That sounds like the amount we lost on Middle Kindgom, perhaps they left out the Tor Carrock data?

Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 18:44

Thanks. Still not thinking clearly. :-)

-A

Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 19:45

tallica wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

Your data is incorrect re: RES. There were many more RES casualties defending Tor Carrock than 1,883.

That sounds like the amount we lost on Middle Kindgom, perhaps they left out the Tor Carrock data?

Actually, we lost over 20K at Mid King...see below for just 1 army there.

02 Oct 13:59:34	Fenrisulven [H?]	Harmless? [H?]	Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES]	3,649	9,137	12,786
02 Oct 12:00:00	Henrii StormStar [4SAKN]	FORSAKEN [4SAKN]	Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES]	7,500	19,913	27,413
02 Oct 10:09:43	ratboy [RES]	Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES]	Crows Nest [nCrow]	58	316	374

Posted By: Bonaparta
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2012 at 16:14

/me pauses for a moment to pay respect to all brave fallen orcs than realizes that their only purpose was to die in combat anyway.

Nice stats GMs. Any chance we could get maximum kill ratios (EXP or troop count) and crafted items use? I want to see the impact of crafting in combat

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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2012 at 16:59

Bonaparta wrote:

/me pauses for a moment to pay respect to all brave fallen orcs than realizes that their only purpose was to die in combat anyway.

Nice stats GMs. Any chance we could get maximum kill ratios (EXP or troop count) and crafted items use? I want to see the impact of crafting in combat

The stats as currently presented are garbage. RES should have about 300K cas, not 1,883. An error as glaring as this renders all the stats entirely unreliable.

Posted By: tallica
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2012 at 19:57

The_Dude wrote:

tallica wrote:

The_Dude wrote:

Your data is incorrect re: RES. There were many more RES casualties defending Tor Carrock than 1,883.

That sounds like the amount we lost on Middle Kindgom, perhaps they left out the Tor Carrock data?

Actually, we lost over 20K at Mid King....

well, nvm then Tongue

sorry SC, I tried to stand up for you! LOL

Posted By: Taron
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2012 at 20:21

Top casualties on the Ursor square from 33k troops? Killing almost 85k!... Sounds like those sods were drinking too much when defending.. Well we held it still :P

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Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2012 at 02:31

Several of the reported statistics are about total Attacker and Defender casualties vs. Something else. Obviously those sums should be consistent (within the caveat GM Stormcrow mentioned). Of the 4 stats given to us that fit this category all of them agree except for 1 which is the one The_Dude pointed out has a problem.

The casualties vs. Alliance are light by 758k (Attack) and 1051k (Defense) bodies.

Now, the numbers I calculate for Total Attack Casualties and Total Defense Casualties are in the upper right hand corner of the chart. (Note my numbers come from the Attack Totals and Defense Totals from the individual tourney square pages and it really sucked copying them into a spreadsheet one by one).

Basically, the Attack casualties seem fine.

The defense casualties seem off by 270k.

WARNING: I have not double checked my figures so I could have made an error.

My thoughts are that there is a mistake in the overall Defense Casualties calculation for all stats as well as an additional error in the Alliance Stat calculation.

Here is my chart,

		My Attack Num	9,672,687
		My Defense Num	18,319,519
Stat Type	Att/Def	# Casultites	Difference with my Numbers
Unit	Attack	9,673,153	-466
Unit	Defense	18,048,133	271,386
Race	Attack	9,673,153	-466
Race	Defense	18,048,137	271,382
Alliance	Attack	8,915,527	757,160
Alliance	Defense	16,997,311	1,322,208
Terrain	Attack	9,673,153	-466
Terrain	Defense	18,048,137	271,382

-A

Posted By: Drejan
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2012 at 12:46

Is it possible to check statistics and post the right one please?

Posted By: Le Roux
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 16:38

hrmph.... perhaps we should expect our funky blue warriors as a new years present?

I somehow would have expected the devs to at least be able to hand out the 1st 2nd 3rd place medals even if the rest of the data is wonky. . . 3+ weeks seems a bit long . . .

( i had been hoping for a mega raw data dump so we could fish through and find individual player total troop losses and such, at this point, i'd settle for the medals . . .)

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Posted By: jordigui
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 17:16

It seems that they listen to you Le Roux!

Could you ask them that my commanders can bring swords even if they are not infantry? ;)