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Topic: Tournament VI Statistics
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Subject: Tournament VI Statistics
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 15:26
Hi all,

Some stats for your delectation.

Best,

SC



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Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 16:18
For Honor & Glory
Top 25 largest battles by casualty count

Date Region Attacking Player Defending Alliance Attacker Casualties Defender Casualties Total Casualties
15-Oct-12 Ursor Curtin Soon™ 33,280 84,959 118,239
15-Oct-12 Lucerna Miltiad Champ 29,367 88,165 117,532
15-Oct-12 Middle Kingdom nipirt777 Soon™ 23,846 81,314 105,160
10-Oct-12 Djebeli Naper Crow 25,001 78,802 103,803
11-Oct-12 Djebeli CanesRule VICX 39,723 55,012 94,735
10-Oct-12 Djebeli Naper Crow 24,001 69,337 93,338
09-Oct-12 Keshalia Asjeff nCrow 17,157 75,303 92,460
07-Oct-12 Middle Kingdom Shadow Soon™ 19,082 68,071 87,153
12-Oct-12 Lucerna Bonaparta BSH 24,062 57,870 81,932
03-Oct-12 Lucerna darkone Crow 17,210 59,575 76,785
13-Oct-12 Lucerna Bonaparta BSH 19,656 51,906 71,562
08-Oct-12 Mal Motsha xBloodxPoolx Æsir 22,984 48,000 70,984
07-Oct-12 Wolgast Kurdruk Frost 15,001 53,230 68,231
12-Oct-12 Lucerna Bonaparta BSH 16,826 51,313 68,139
10-Oct-12 Lucerna Boromir Crow 18,517 48,336 66,853
18-Oct-12 Wolgast Lynce Crow 13,304 53,188 66,492
09-Oct-12 Norweld Raritor mCrow 17,994 47,475 65,469
14-Oct-12 Djebeli CanesRule VICX 15,000 50,364 65,364
05-Oct-12 Tor Carrock Smokey Smoke WE 24,671 39,703 64,374
10-Oct-12 Lucerna Hyo Crow 17,387 46,161 63,548
11-Oct-12 Windlost HATHALDIR EE 18,477 45,009 63,486
09-Oct-12 Keshalia R-Man nCrow 11,800 51,134 62,934
13-Oct-12 Lucerna Raatalagk BSH 13,549 47,642 61,191
10-Oct-12 Lucerna Hyo Crow 15,050 44,181 59,231
20-Oct-12 Lucerna Miltiad Champ 17,171 41,977 59,148


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 19:50
King Sigurd wants his Praetorians back
Units killed during tournament square attack

Unit Casualties in Attack
Knight 1,867,078
Marshal 1,118,594
Elven Trueshot 1,011,377
Charioteer 574,156
Stalwart 453,731
Death Pack 385,015
Runerider 352,569
Man-at-Arms 335,541
Pikeman 328,694
Longbowman 320,891
Swiftsteed 286,879
Phalanx 267,502
Clan Guardsman 244,726
Sentinel 232,556
Kobold Cohort 220,936
Wardancer 206,491
Fist 179,166
Swordsman 172,528
Archer 141,723
Militiaman 128,128
Crossbowman 123,707
Warden 103,596
Protector 93,868
Death Dealer 85,882
Axman 74,508
Packsman 73,969
Halbardier 68,999
Yeoman 59,393
Wolfrider 56,585
Slinger 55,425
Clanguard 24,798
Fang 23,067
Scrawny Wolf 715
Praetorian Guardsman 168
Battery-tower 58
Battering ram 47
Elite Praetorian Guardsman 39
Catapult 22
Mangonel 12
Siege Hook 6
Pure Water Elemental 3
Pure Air Elemental 3
Ballista 2


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 19:52
Siege Hooks make the best defenders, don't they?
Units killed during tournament square defence

Unit Casualties in Defence
Elven Trueshot 2,874,059
Knight 1,541,665
Marshal 1,140,132
Longbowman 1,012,852
Pikeman 982,432
Kobold Cohort 970,620
Stalwart 950,202
Clan Guardsman 825,754
Phalanx 687,695
Charioteer 614,283
Man-at-Arms 599,316
Crossbowman 556,543
Sentinel 541,367
Runerider 501,032
Halbardier 492,730
Wardancer 483,877
Swiftsteed 416,626
Militiaman 380,167
Swordsman 354,612
Death Pack 248,149
Archer 241,275
Death Dealer 236,064
Fist 219,382
Axman 212,742
Clanguard 204,793
Protector 185,792
Warden 135,512
Yeoman 129,288
Slinger 101,106
Packsman 100,500
Wolfrider 54,191
Fang 51,985
Scrawny Wolf 1,022
Praetorian Guardsman 233
Elite Praetorian Guardsman 74
Mangonel 18
Battery-tower 18
Catapult 9
Trebuchet 4
Ballista 3
Pure Water Elemental 3
Pure Air Elemental 3
Siege Hook 3


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 20:00
Elf Abuse
Units killed by Race

Race Casualties in Attack Casualties in Defence
Humans 3,868,808 5,726,612
Elves 3,320,881 6,465,081
Dwarves 1,262,361 3,044,164
Orcs 1,220,175 2,810,942
Those poor wolves 715 1,022
Praetorians (sigh) 207 307
Elementals 6 9


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 20:11
Ouchies
Casualties by Alliance

Alliance Casualties Taken (Attacking) Casualties Taken (Defending)
Pending... [Soon™] 743,822 1,877,327
The Crows [Crow] 787,903 1,672,572
Black Skull Horde [BSH] 539,790 1,049,226
Eternal Champions [Champ] 469,027 1,045,102
Calaquendi Crow [Calcr] 497,784 957,944
Crows Nest [nCrow] 373,393 947,407
Murder of Crows [mCrow] 417,913 724,531
Elysian Fields [Shade] 390,653 639,278
Kaendran Crows [KCrow] 273,120 471,092
Order of the Valar [VALAR] 334,013 388,097
MORITURI EAGLES [EE] 222,235 407,186
Cave of Knowledge [CoK] 223,609 380,413
Harmless? [H?] 183,500 410,784
Insanity Inc [II] 215,158 363,248
Invictus [VIC] 172,376 327,570
Worlds End [WE] 197,116 248,830
Fires of Heaven [FoH] 156,954 288,735
Dwarven Lords [Dlord] 119,097 292,277
CHOSEN EAGLES [CE] 125,296 270,619
Fremen Wolf Curse [FreWC] 154,428 241,058
Slaves to Armok [StA] 156,665 235,255
Victrix [VICX] 139,744 251,527
The Crow's Wings [CrowW] 160,516 228,151
Æsir [Æsir] 109,147 229,171
Lords of Frost [Frost] 86,669 210,828
Fairy Road Authority [Roads] 107,201 164,178
The Long Road [TLR™] 94,389 166,562
Eight Hand Crow [eCrow] 74,932 180,933
Semper ad Meliora [{S M}] 102,411 137,630
Illy Training Ground [ITG] 92,215 135,168
Dark Empire [DARK] 64,347 142,973
Skorn [*SKR*] 84,799 100,832
The Colony [TCol] 47,423 129,382
Worlds End Siegers [WES] 55,835 119,538
Brothers After Death [BAD] 46,404 122,391
Free Defense Union [FDU] 66,282 100,215
Toothless? [T?] 58,955 96,511
SnugglersCrowalition [HUGcr] 46,223 92,309
The Liberation [HEAT] 53,801 73,251
Wheel of Time [WoT] 57,180 63,676
D'Haran Empire [DE] 52,961 66,806
Celtic Knights [XckX] 43,537 69,190
Rhyagelle [RHY] 33,070 76,040
Woodland Realm [WLR] 33,965 73,693
Amicitia [Amt] 35,257 71,415
Shraps Mem Academy [SMA] 36,762 61,673
Heroes of the Horn [HOTH] 35,258 52,384
Night Crusaders [~NC~] 28,560 59,056
The Fighters [TFS] 42,693 40,883
Absaroke [Absa] 26,709 52,610
Alizés [AZ] 23,046 40,270
Curse of the Wolves [Curse] 18,417 35,173
Phoenix Rising [Arise] 20,028 30,499
Free Corps [FREE] 18,454 22,508
Samsara [SMS] 16,285 23,062
The Red Order [T.R.O] 16,771 21,261
The Order [T-O] 9,593 22,975
FORSAKEN [4SAKN] 7,929 21,912
Hammer of Skorn [HSKR] 12,169 17,073
INDOMITI [IND] 7,394 18,640
Eagles First Flight [~FF~] 10,004 11,684
TOR University [TOR-U] 5,933 14,435
Love And Freedom [Laugh] 7,331 9,502
Brown Alliance [POOP] 6,129 9,338
WE TRAIN [WET] 5,643 6,804
Dwarven Druids [Druid] 4,329 8,045
Dwarven in-law [DiL] 3,676 8,516
Unseen University [-=UU=] 4,321 6,699
Steel Dominion [REALM] 4,724 5,850
Faction Supply Union [FSU] 4,308 6,072
The Old Republic [TOR] 3,833 5,950
Inspirations [~!i!~] 5,784 2,799
The Brotherhood [TBH] 3,528 3,968
PRAEVALEO [PRVAL] 2,069 4,131
SkullCrushers Horde [SCH==] 2,530 3,623
Off the Beaten Path [TLR™2] 1,844 4,175
The War Clan [TWC] 1,726 3,745
Orden de Malta [Malta] 2,193 3,186
The Dark Trainers [TDT] 3,260 1,704
Purely Evil [EVIL] 2,669 1,520
Ascension [Rise] 1,495 2,678
Steel Confessors [STEEL] 1,136 2,758
Skulls Training Pit [BSHx] 1,494 2,156
Knights Virtue [~KV~] 1,102 2,039
Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES] 737 1,883
The Nightbringers [~N~] 1,000 1,341
Hells Gate [HG] 467 436
Exercitus Aureii [E/A] 400 171
Empire Of Spain [Spain] 5 383
Aigamuxa [AIG] 121 195
Coyote [COY] 89 175
Tranquil vision. [Peace] 67 196
Rhylet [RHYL] 142 102
Extinct [FLY] 203 40
Tsunami [WAVE] 51 112
Dark Star Academy [DSA] 1 0


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 02:24
The Pain on the Plain falls mainly on the... um...  Plain
Casualties by Terrain Type.

TerrainType Attacker Casualties Defender Casualties
Large Forest 1,892,898 3,625,283
Plains 1,800,208 4,260,673
Small Hill 1,735,960 3,358,635
Small Forest 1,607,715 3,062,918
Large Mountain 1,113,498 1,479,599
Small Mountain 815,856 1,046,108
Large Hill 707,018 1,214,921


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 02:32
Sorry it's not TC's usual stat-a-thon, but he's super-busy on esoteric and uninteresting things - and so I ran them out.

Also, apologies that not everything adds up to the exact figure across all reports.  I'm sure this is because I included (for some reports) commander health as casualty damage, but didn't for others.

No matter, the bias/incomplete accuracy for each report will be the same for each rowset, so the sampling error is consistent across each.

Regards,

SC


Posted By: Grainne
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 02:52
Thank you for posting!  ("ouch" indeed...........)


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Posted By: shadow
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 02:54
Thanks SC Thumbs Up 

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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 05:47
Your data is incorrect re: RES.  There were many more RES casualties defending Tor Carrock than 1,883.


Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 12:52
Here is what I calculate for Tor Carrock in terms of Alliance casualties Attack, Defending, and Total.

Tor Carrock
Alliance Attacking Casualties Defending Casualties Total
Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES] 120 278546 278666
Worlds End [WE] 138844 0 138844
Calaquendi Crow [Calcr] 5486 91616 97102
Elysian Fields [Shade] 73756 0 73756
Pending... [Soon™] 36629 26250 62879
Insanity Inc [II] 22126 0 22126
The Crows [Crow] 20400 1 20401
Slaves to Armok [StA] 6540 0 6540
Victrix [VICX] 6000 0 6000
Order of the Valar [VALAR] 4217 0 4217
Invictus [VIC] 4196 0 4196
Absaroke [Absa] 4131 0 4131
The Crow's Wings [CrowW] 2692 0 2692
Love And Freedom [Laugh] 2459 0 2459
Orden de Malta [Malta] 2193 0 2193
Dwarven Lords [Dlord] 948 0 948
Inspirations [~!i!~] 941 0 941
Murder of Crows [mCrow] 430 0 430
The Red Order [T.R.O] 200 0 200
Empire Of Spain [Spain] 5 0 5
Heroes of the Horn [HOTH] 0 0 0


Posted By: Mona Lisa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 13:42
The "Top Battle" defender alliance column should be attacker alliance...  Curtain was Soon, etc.

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Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 14:21
I don't understand what you are trying to say. 

The numbers look correct to me but if you have tallied these numbers and you disagree with them maybe you could send them to me and I can compare.

If you mean something else please clarify.


Thanks,

-A




Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 14:37
Mona Lisa talks about SC's stats, where Kurdruk allegedly attacked Frost, and so on, not about your results for RES in Tor Carrock. Smile 


Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 14:38
Oh, thanks.

I read it like 6 times word after word trying to understand. OK, no more forum reading the forum while sick.

-A


Posted By: Loud Whispers
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 17:49
Any chance to see how many enemy troops each alliance has killed?


Posted By: Le Roux
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 17:52
Yes, Mona's comment above was directed to SC as the "For Honor & Glory" list, have all of the attackers attacking their own alliance ; )   Since I have, er, personal knowledge of many of these attacks, I know that indeed the #2 on the list was by Champs on Crow in Lucerna (on behalf of BSH? ) .. 25k of that 88k happened to be one of my trueshot armies ; ) ...

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Posted By: tallica
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 18:44
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Your data is incorrect re: RES.  There were many more RES casualties defending Tor Carrock than 1,883.

That sounds like the amount we lost on Middle Kindgom, perhaps they left out the Tor Carrock data?


Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 18:44
Thanks. Still not thinking clearly. :-)

-A


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 19:45
Originally posted by tallica tallica wrote:

Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Your data is incorrect re: RES.  There were many more RES casualties defending Tor Carrock than 1,883.

That sounds like the amount we lost on Middle Kindgom, perhaps they left out the Tor Carrock data?
Actually, we lost over 20K at Mid King...see below for just 1 army there.

02 Oct 13:59:34
Fenrisulven [H?]Harmless? [H?]Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES]3,6499,13712,786
02 Oct 12:00:00
Henrii StormStar [4SAKN]FORSAKEN [4SAKN]Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES]7,50019,91327,413
02 Oct 10:09:43
ratboy [RES]Res Ipsa Loquitor [RES]Crows Nest [nCrow]58316374


Posted By: Bonaparta
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2012 at 16:14
/me pauses for a moment to pay respect to all brave fallen orcs than realizes that their only purpose was to die in combat anyway. 

Nice stats GMs. Any chance we could get maximum kill ratios (EXP or troop count) and crafted items use? I want to see the impact of crafting in combat


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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2012 at 16:59
Originally posted by Bonaparta Bonaparta wrote:

/me pauses for a moment to pay respect to all brave fallen orcs than realizes that their only purpose was to die in combat anyway. 

Nice stats GMs. Any chance we could get maximum kill ratios (EXP or troop count) and crafted items use? I want to see the impact of crafting in combat
The stats as currently presented are garbage.  RES should have about 300K cas, not 1,883.  An error as glaring as this renders all the stats entirely unreliable.


Posted By: tallica
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2012 at 19:57
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by tallica tallica wrote:

Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Your data is incorrect re: RES.  There were many more RES casualties defending Tor Carrock than 1,883.

That sounds like the amount we lost on Middle Kindgom, perhaps they left out the Tor Carrock data?
Actually, we lost over 20K at Mid King....


well, nvm then Tongue

sorry SC, I tried to stand up for you! LOL


Posted By: Taron
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2012 at 20:21
Top casualties on the Ursor square from 33k troops? Killing almost 85k!... Sounds like those sods were drinking too much when defending.. Well we held it still :P

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Posted By: allamagoosa
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2012 at 02:31

Several of the reported statistics are about total Attacker and Defender casualties vs. Something else. Obviously those sums should be consistent (within the caveat GM Stormcrow mentioned). Of the 4 stats given to us  that fit this category all of them agree except for 1 which is the one The_Dude pointed out has a problem.

The casualties vs. Alliance are light by 758k (Attack) and 1051k (Defense) bodies.

Now, the numbers I calculate for Total Attack Casualties and Total Defense Casualties are in the upper right hand corner of the chart. (Note my numbers come from the Attack Totals and Defense Totals from the individual tourney square pages and it really sucked copying them into a spreadsheet one by one).

Basically, the Attack casualties seem fine.

The defense casualties seem off by 270k.

WARNING: I have not double checked my figures so I could have made an error.

 

My thoughts are that there is a mistake in the overall Defense Casualties calculation for all stats as well as an additional error in the Alliance Stat calculation.

Here is my chart,


    My Attack Num 9,672,687
    My Defense Num 18,319,519
Stat Type Att/Def # Casultites Difference with my Numbers
Unit Attack 9,673,153 -466
Defense 18,048,133 271,386
Race Attack 9,673,153 -466
Defense 18,048,137 271,382
Alliance Attack 8,915,527 757,160
Defense 16,997,311 1,322,208
Terrain Attack 9,673,153 -466
Defense 18,048,137 271,382


-A



Posted By: Drejan
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2012 at 12:46
Is it possible to check statistics and post the right one please?


Posted By: Le Roux
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 16:38
hrmph....  perhaps we should expect our funky blue warriors as a new years present?
 
I somehow would have expected the devs to at least be able to hand out the 1st 2nd 3rd place medals even if the rest of the data is wonky. . .  3+ weeks  seems a bit long . . .
 
( i had been hoping for a mega raw data dump so we could fish through and find individual player total troop losses and such,  at this point, i'd settle for the medals . . .)


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Posted By: jordigui
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 17:16
It seems that they listen to you Le Roux!

Could you ask them that my commanders can bring swords even if they are not infantry? ;)

TH



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