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VALAR declares support for Consone

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Forum Name: Politics & Diplomacy
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Topic: VALAR declares support for Consone
Posted By: Taelin
Subject: VALAR declares support for Consone
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 10:27
VALAR has remained pretty much silent publicly about the H? - Consone war.

I now declare our support for Consone: we will act in support of Consone.

I am not going to attempt to argue why here because I do not wish to spawn another 50 pages of point – counter point – obfuscation etc(1) - although I appreciate it may happen anyway (2).

I do not say H? are the unrelentingly evil overlords of Illyriad just that they are wrong (againWink); we have many we consider friends among Consone and few among H?; we prefer Jasche's interpretation of events and his efforts at reaching a settlement and we have of course had our own experience of H? in the past.

H? I salute you – and commend the merits of discussion with Consone to end this matter sooner rather than later!



(1) Anyone familiar with dual of wits in Burning Wheel (RPG) may think that mechanic there would nicely model a Illyriad forum debate.

(2) More peanuts anyone?



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Posted By: bansisdead
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 11:45
A declaration of support? and what would that mean you are going to support Consone's military action or you are going to stand on the sidelines cheering loudly for Consone, give me a C....Gooooo...well you get it.

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Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 13:17
thats a great idea, a cheerleading squad from the sidelines...are both u cheer leadingWink get into the war, its fun! alot more fun than just cheerleading and saying which side u placing bets on....50 gold on harm


Posted By: Ossian
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 13:57
Originally posted by Taelin Taelin wrote:

H? I salute you – and commend the merits of discussion with Consone to end this matter sooner rather than later!(
 
I have highlighted the one and only meaningful phrase in this "declaration"  as the rest of it appears to be a disclaimer of responsibilty for the possible 50 pages of posts that such a declaration will generate.
 
The game of Illyriad is bigger than the ego's of any individual or alliance that participates in it.  Most will agree that it's mechanics offer more possibilties, ingenuity and en joyment than many other browser games of its type.  All that is of course with thanks to the team that has developed the game adapting it to keep it an exciting experience for all ages.
 
The other major feature of Illyriad is it's community.  It has an enthusiasm and energy to participate, not just in the game itself but in it's improvement, that I think is unrivalled. Illyriad's community has proved to be wonderfully innovative and fertile base for fresh ideas and expressions.
 
I fear that this particular war, more than it's predecessors , is starting to undermine that enthusiam and energy. I think I am not the only that feels this way.
 
I hope that this declaration does not lead to further bitterness and prolong matters. The sooner that this war is settled and out of the way, The better for all.


Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 14:25
Why is this not at all surprising?


Posted By: Loud Whispers
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 14:36
Originally posted by Ossian Ossian wrote:


The other major feature of Illyriad is it's community.  It has an enthusiasm and energy to participate, not just in the game itself but in it's improvement, that I think is unrivalled. Illyriad's community has proved to be wonderfully innovative and fertile base for fresh ideas and expressions.
 
I fear that this particular war, more than it's predecessors , is starting to undermine that enthusiam and energy. I think I am not the only that feels this way.
 
I hope that this declaration does not lead to further bitterness and prolong matters. The sooner that this war is settled and out of the way, The better for all.
Couldn't have said it better myself. +1


Posted By: Myr
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 14:59
I consider Valar to be good neighbors. We may be on opposite sides of this conflict but I will congratulate them on any well fought battles and I hope to be good neighbors again when the smoke clears.




Posted By: gangas
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 15:09
agreed Myr


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 16:35
Clap

Welcome to the fray! Hug

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Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 16:40
war is fun, lots of war peeps will come to the gameClap we need everyone to get involved


Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 17:12
I suggest THE FINAL TOURNAMENT  

When you enter the game choose a side, red or blue or green

Then when you go to the illy strategic map the red, green, blue will correspond perfectly :D

PS. I in no way actually support that^^ 
if you like peace be neutral.  If you like war join up, just make sure you choose the right side :D


Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 19:58
If you think about it - the fact that a former enemy would feel comfortable enough to declare support on the opposite side of H? again and risk being in conflict with us just goes to show that all the people blathering on about destruction of accounts and alliances are talking out of their rear ends (RMY and Mandarins - I'm looking at you :)  )

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Posted By: jeaway
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2012 at 20:40
Well said gameplayer..this is a game..a war game..let's have fun with it!  And when the smoke clears, and it will despite what all the GC harpies might want new players to believe, we can once again go back to friends.  In the meantime...let's roll....


Posted By: N. Chadgod
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 00:14
I love how people are worried that a war game is going to be come undone because of a war. Yawn.

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Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 00:29
At the worst we all keep fighting just with smaller cities.  


Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 02:33
Originally posted by N. Chadgod N. Chadgod wrote:

I love how people are worried that a war game is going to be come undone because of a war. Yawn.


+1

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Posted By: Hadus
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 05:44
Originally posted by N. Chadgod N. Chadgod wrote:

I love how people are worried that a war game is going to be come undone because of a war. Yawn.


Agreed. Anyone who doesn't want their cities to fall has had multiple opportunities to stay out of it. There are plenty of neutral, peaceful alliances still thriving in Illyriad. Why people are acting like Illy is going to transform into a cutthroat MMO because of this war is beyond me.

Not to mention all the original conflict members has several chances to cut their losses and prevent escalation, and in every instance they chose escalation. Not one alliance involved in this war can stay they were completely opposed to it.


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Posted By: Southern Dwarf
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 10:10
Originally posted by gameplayer gameplayer wrote:

war is fun, lots of war peeps will come to the gameClap we need everyone to get involved

Yeah, so much fun in making Illy like these other hundreds of simply war gank games browser games out there. If you like that so much why did you come here at all? Just because you want to ruin a different approach?

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Posted By: Rorgash
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2012 at 10:29
Originally posted by N. Chadgod N. Chadgod wrote:

I love how people are worried that a war game is going to be come undone because of a war. Yawn.

+1


Originally posted by <span style=: rgb251, 244, 225; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 15.555556297302246px; font-weight: bold; line-height: 23.33333396911621px; >Southern Dwarf</span> Southern Dwarf wrote:

Yeah, so much fun in making Illy like these other hundreds of simply war gank games browser games out there. If you like that so much why did you come here at all? Just because you want to ruin a different approach?

wont happen, unlike in those games the risk of being at war is much much higher unlike in those games, also being limited to 10 towns you cant expand. and Newb ganking wont ever be a problem since any big player gains NOTHING from doing it except maybe if they enjoy it.


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Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2012 at 02:59
Attacks coming in from VALAR = War dec going out from H?   Fun fun fun :)

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