White Concentration Camps have my Poor Villagers
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Topic: White Concentration Camps have my Poor Villagers
Posted By: Createure
Subject: White Concentration Camps have my Poor Villagers
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 13:49
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Once upon a time there was a tiny village, founded by a wise old drunkard. All was good and peaceful, the innocent villagers tilled the fields, sowed crops, and harvested them with wooden pitchforks. It was as if every day was summer in this pastoral idyll. For some simple folk, it were the perfect place to raise a family and grow old, wise, fat, happy and drunk. The democratically elected council, headed by the wise old drunkard, rarely had any reason to interact with neighbouring towns and cities. They would sometimes trade their loaves for wine and hops, and once a year they would go looking for wenches to court with for pre-arranged payment in the nearby town of Amsterdam, but this was all. Then one fateful day a dark cloud appeared in the sky, the innocent villagers stood in the village square, and wondered at its size. Then the dark cloud descended to the ground and materialised into a thousand arrows. Dozens of unwitting peons fell where they stood, for they had never even seen a bow and arrow before and knew no better. After this a horde of rampaging soldiers stormed the village, and the massacre began. The innocent children were slaughtered like dodos, simply intrigued by the murderous visitors, trying only to make friends. The young men and women were dragged away to work in the concentration camps of these terrible assailants. The wise old draunkard only escaped this onslaught because he was plastered and fell down the village well a few minutes before the attack. A passing band of travelling salesmen pulled him out after the massacre was finished. It soon became apparent that these forces belonged to the cities of dozens of evil [ White] minions. In a moment of sobriety the Old Drunkard wrote this letter to those who had destroyed his village and murdered his companions: "When will you stop your unprovoked, unwarranted and undeclared hostilities towards my peaceful village? My peons wish only to grow crops and drink wine. I only wish to sit in my tiny stone castle and play scrabble with my friends and the chamber maids. I deplore you, leave us simple folk be, to live out our long and boring lives!" As he put down his quill and sealed the letter, the old man finished his furkin and fell into another drunken stupor. A hazy thought drifted through his clouded mind, as he dreamt about the horrific things which had come to pass. 'A simple life in a land controlled by honorless thugs, attacking innocents while waving a White flag.' |
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Posted By: Diablito
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 20:24
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Perhaps your peace loving villagers should have considered political neutrality, rather than joining an alliance that conducted aggressive spell-casting and diplomatic actions vs our own hordes for several weeks. I mean call me crazy, but if all you want is peace, beer and smiles, being a member of the largest alliance in the game isn't exactly the best idea. If you really want your precious peace and calm, all you have to do is leave your aggressive alliance and stop supporting their work to dominate this game, and we won't care a fig about you. Then again, it could be that your post is in fact full of sh*t, and you're only upset you aren't farming that "evil" white guy, who when he isn't in Illyriad fighting your alliance, spends his time in eve-online voulenteering his time to helping newbies in Eve-University, the single largest newbie helping organisation in -any- web game in the world. Also, I don't find concentration camp jokes funny, I guess i'm strange that way.
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Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 20:40
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Yes - White members definitely aren't farming low score alliance-less players. Also confirming that as per Diablito's propaganda we are the evil empire, we do eat babies, we kick puppies and we swear at our mothers too. |
Posted By: Diablito
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 21:17
We don't, we farm people who were dumb enough to attack one of us, or currently, the meat shields KillerPoodle has lured into H? with false promises of protection and safety. Sorry for ruining your little clone-army KP, but you have to actually take care of people if you want them to be usefull, and you honestly don't seem to give a sh*t about the majority of your members. Why anyone would follow you, is a mystery to me, pretty words alone don't make a leader, it takes action. The guy above doesn't seem to have seen much action from what is, the largest alliance in the game.
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KillerPoodle wrote:Posted By: Keeves
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 21:54
Just thought I'd post it so there can't be obvious propaganda and stupid monkey sh*t-throwing.
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 22:00
| Not that I think a single perceptive individual buys the angel act anyway, but +1 integrity to Keeves. |
Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 22:33
So first off, your own member and the poor guys wanting to join us because they are being farmed with the only reason given as "I was bored" show you for the liar you are. Secondly, judging by the rest of the tripe you've posted your spy isn't anywhere near as good as he should be - you should continue your efforts to try to recruit another. |
Posted By: Diablito
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 23:33
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Every White attack made has gone through me, White has to date only attacked/farmed the following: Inactives, people who aggressed white and H? If a member has a dispute with a neutral player, he can settle that dispute however he wishes, however, there has not yet been a single case of White members being the aggressors in such a dispute. Enemies seem to be lining up in long queues to be farmed, so there's really never any need. As for my spy, I don't need a spy to see that you do nothing for your members, they're never defended and they never seem to achieve anything in this war. As their leader, this is entirely your fault KillerPoodle.
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Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 00:00
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TBH I'm disappointed. When I heard you were joining I was pretty happy to have what I thought would be some decent competition, unfortunately so far it's been pretty sad, from your pathetic and transparent attempts at mud slinging to the rather pedestrian tactics on the battle field. I struggle to find a single public utterance of yours which isn't shot through with fabrication. What's interesting is that you lie when: a) You don't need to b) It's easy to prove you're lying. My only conclusion is that you're busy in Eve or elsewhere, I hope that is the case because if this is your "A" game it's pretty bad. As for the proof of yet another lie - here's a battle report from one of your members attacks on one of ours. The interesting thing here is that the bulk of the defense army was mine helping to defend my members against your attacks with my own units:
And no - I'm not posting the rest of the report to show how many defending units there were. Please don't come back until you have something that isn't complete bullsh$t to say. |
Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 00:13
Diablito must really think much of himself to believe he sees all that we plan and do for our members, with or without spy. Bravo on an impressive ego.  How odd that no one seems to be lining up at our doors for the same treatment you offer "aggressors." Instead they come seeking refuge and membership. Perhaps if you spent less time presenting douchebaggery as pragmatism you wouldn't be so mired in a circle of violence. |
Posted By: Diablito
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 00:42
We launch on average 10-15 succesfull attacks on H? cities every single day, and this is the finest example of defence you can show? A force that can only be described as a minor farming force being defeated? I'd post some succesfull attacks but I know you have douzens of examples on your own forums, along with your members cringing. But I take it you've saved Creature then, he won't be farmed tomorrow? and again the next day? he hasn't been farmed day in and day out? My A game is bad? My tactics are pedestrian? Your tactics so far has been to be defeated day in and day out, all your assaults have been failed, where nearly all of ours succeed. We have de-leveld multiple buildings using siege engines over several H? towns, where as we have suffered no losses from any attacks sent by H? what so ever. You remind me of the iraqi information minister or Emperor Nero. "Dear H? members, we are defeating the vile White forces! We have yet to succeed in a *single* attack this is true, but last night we made a succesfull defence of a VAST invading horde of a couple of tier 1 soldiers, and while it is true that another 14 attacks were not defended on that day, we feel we have truly bloodied their nose with this". Next I imagine you'll send a proclamation that the boys will be home by christmas. Action backs up my words, you huddle together, turtle up, ignore your members, don't lead, you have multiple recruiters out recruiting as many players as you possibly can in race to become the single largest entity this game will ever see, and so dominate it completely. White does not turtle up, in White we lead our members, in White we are at war with the single largest alliance in this game, for the good of this game. I'm sorry if you don't approve of my brand of tactics and strategy, I guess we have differing opinions here. I feel a good strategy is to ensure the success and defence of my members, to ensure that while they pillage the enemy they remain safe. This differs somewhat from your core strategy of ignoring 90% of your members while you focus on building up and protecting your ten or so directors, letting them be farmed and burned while recruiting new players, fresh from having joined and throwing them to slaughter without any instruction help or protection. All in all, I am quite confident in my strategy, and I think i'll take my lessons in warfare from someone who isn't currently losing a douzen battles a day.
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Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 03:04
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To be honest I only wrote that story cos I was bored and it amused me. I wouldn't read too much political message into it. I don't think that report was posted as an attempt at showing some kind of epic win though... it was just evidence against the generalisation of yours above, that H? leadership doesn't give a fig about their smaller players. And the other main lie of yours above: 'that I shouldn't have joined H? so that White would leave me alone.' The reason I joined H? in the first place was because White was already attacking me unprovoked and my own alliance was too small to do anything about it. But please continue anyways Diablito... I still enjoy your posts despite their frequent fallacy.  |
Posted By: Diablito
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 03:28
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We've never attacked any alliance unprovoked, perhaps you should try joining an alliance that doesn't make enemies so frequently. If not, well, deal with the consequences.
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Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 05:19
More tears (they fuel me), more lies, more attempted mudslinging. <yawn> Someone wake me when something interesting is said. |
Posted By: Gila
Date Posted: 02 May 2010 at 16:30
/me wonders if the killer poodle had his rabies shot this year, because he seems to be the only one "foaming at the mouth" here... Yeah, most of guildies are from Eve University - if your not familiar with it, it's not only the *largest* n00b assisting group in games *ever*, it is also the longest lived "n00b" assisting group in gaming ever (just over six years straight...) ((yeah, we really hate them dam n00bs....)). |
Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 02:35
Somewhat better attempt at damage control only three major holes: 1) White's real policy (farm anyone you like who is not in an alliance) already came out in this thread. 2) Harmless's leaders also have a long history of helping noobs in online games. 3) The stated purpose of White is somewhat different to your normal Ivy League ideals:
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Posted By: Diablito
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 07:18
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1) White's real policy (farm anyone you like who is not in an alliance) already came out in this thread. 2) Harmless's leaders also have a long history of helping noobs in online games. 3) The stated purpose of White is somewhat different to your normal Ivy League ideals: 1. Any player of white may deal however he wishes to a neutral player as there is no formal policy, I know not of a single case where a neutral player has been farmed by us without him/her striking the first blow 2. Harmless has a history of completely dominating games, see Inselkampf where you yourself have stated your alliance has more score than the ENTIRE rest of the game, and the game is now completely stagnant and without action...I wonder what could possibly have caused this. 3. The stated purpose of White is chaos and war, not domination, not oppression, but chaos and war, and of course, we aim to be on the winning side of any war...but if we were to dominate...where would the war go? KP, you accuse me of bluster, yet I see no action from you, I see nothing but forum bluster. All you do ingame is turtle, turtle up, I also find backing in my statement that your alliance exists to boost your top ten chaps, in that not ONE of your newbies has been invited into your cluster. Nor do you inform them of the actions of the alliance, not to mention your habit of distorting facts and outright lying to them. I would give examples, but while you are many things I do not think you a complete idiot, and you and I both know several examples of what I am talking about, if your members choose to remain blind then by all means let them, my own newer members are earning vast resources from their ignorance so if they wish to remain ignorant puppets, let them. White wants war, it wants many wars, war all over the land of Illyria, we will assault ANY power which threatens to become *the* dominant power, we will strike at the throath of anyone who would prevent this game from becoming an orgie of chaos, politics and multitude of alliances of similar strenght. Peace can go copulate itself, stability can take a leaf from Dante and go take a tour of hell, you threaten the state of war KP, and I will fight to my last breath to prevent peace from choking this wonderfull game to death.
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 13:05
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Oohh, a conspiracy theorist! |
Posted By: Diablito
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 15:15
No, just a man with eyes in his head.
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Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 16:05
There are 11 inselkampf worlds, of which we are in 1. They are all stagnant, which says more about the game itself and it's AWOL developer/owner than the people in each world. You should have a little more faith in the dev's ability to make a game sufficiently interesting and complex that it doesn't lead to stagnation. As for the rest of your diatribe - you're the distorter of facts and outright liar. You've been caught in lies so many times in the scant few months this game has been going that there really isn't anyone that listens any more. You can now add me to that list. EDIT: Edited by SC at user request |
Posted By: Rwdnyll
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 01:46
Ah, Rwdnyll see the truth is out at last, Diabolita is humie in orc skin, this not big surprise... Your foolish children have ceased thier attacks against Rwdnyll for the time being, maybe they are not as foolish as their obviously misguided and desperately egotistical parent figure... Rwdnyll hopes that it has brought them happiness to conduct in such actions... This is not the first time that Rwdnyll has suffered attacks without obvious provocation, and it will probably not be the last, but Rwdnyll is a proud Orc with a long memory, and many have been returned to the soil in many lands for such actions, once it took two years to launch a totally destructive attack on such a fool... With a God like Gruumsh demanding blood offerings, in a way it is good that the children of Mother Diabolita come to the land of Rwdnyll to spill blood to Gruumsh..... One more thing has become apparent though, that would be the certain lack of genetic diversity that was present in the spawning of a mooncalf such as this many eyed beast... Would not surprise Rwdnyll greater to find that Diabolita is not truly a tricksy hobbit with delusions of manhood... Reminds Rwdnyll of the fate of a small dead fish that hangs around many warriors necks..... Orc Orc Orc!!! ------------- Rwdnyll not interested in the mental processes of food... |
Posted By: Keeves
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 02:25
Roleplayers scare the bajeesus outta me. |
Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 13:29
Ya agreed, its one step away from furries. |
Posted By: Rwdnyll
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 20:30
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Rwdnyll thinks that there lays the conundrum... As for furries, fluffy would seem more appropriate to answer questions about scritching... ------------- Rwdnyll not interested in the mental processes of food... |
Posted By: liberty6
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 06:41
sorry to say but i find this kind of humor particularly offensive due to the fact that allot of my ancestors WERE KILLED in Poland and other Nazi controlled territories concentration and work camps. and it is a sore spot for me  not to say that i have straightened people up for certain Holocaust comments. and i request this not be taken lightly and request any other concentration camp humor be spared for a private chat amongst yourselves IN PERSON NOT ON LINE. |
Posted By: theoracle09
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2010 at 18:27
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Liberty, this is indeed offensive if it were a joke. However, there is absolutely no humor in this situation. The White company is taking this exact tack to describe their war against Harmless. What Creature is describing is pure fact, not some fictional entertainment some of us find "humorous." There's nothing humorous about it. You should go back and read this thread, and you will find that Diablablabla is saying he will do those exact things to Harmless and their families. |
Posted By: Diablito
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2010 at 05:33
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Ok, you got me, I am really Hitler currently sitting on my computer in Argentina trying to start the fourth reich with Illyriad and White as my base of power. Clearly comparing me to a nazi is not at all taking this game too seriously, I mean i've murdered a lot of innocent code. |
Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2010 at 00:07
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It would be nice if we could keep hyperbole to a minimum on both sides. I think it would be reasonable for all of us to voluntarily avoid holocaust-related conversational topics that can be so easily received by this forum's readers (many of whom are European and thus more likely to take it personally) as genuinely offensive--whether in the context of humor, role-playing, metaphorical threats, or character portrayal. Godwin doesn't need our assistance. I don't like censoring our own members and there have been no instructions handed down, but I hope my colleagues will agree with me anyway. As SC would put it, let's stick to polite dinner conversation if possible. |
Posted By: Wuzzel
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2010 at 09:17
You sound like a mod. ------------- 
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Posted By: GM Gryphon
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 02:45
Edit: Stormcrow has pointed out that official policy is to neither confirm nor deny who is or isn't a MOD, so please disregard what I said here earlier.
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Posted By: Wuzzel
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2010 at 10:52
He sounds like a GM???  -------------
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 02:01
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I'm no GM, I'mm'a DM Games are for wussies. |
Posted By: Wuzzel
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 12:52
Can i come in/visit your Dungeon? -------------
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 15:21
| Only if you bring cake and candy. |
Posted By: Wuzzel
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 16:34
Deal! On my way! edit: You take candy from strange men? -------------
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 17:10
| I take everything from strange men, starting with their wallets and bootlaces. |
Posted By: Wuzzel
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 18:13
Why do you want my bootlaces? You want my worn undies too?????? -------------
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Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 18:46
Your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle. |
Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 19:18
but keep your sunglasses.....
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 19:28
| From what I've heard of your undies, Wuzzel, they're somewhat used, not to mention already missing. Bootstraps now, well they're the duct tape of a more civilized age. |
Posted By: Wuzzel
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 21:47
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Ok i give all my clothes to you and i am going to stand naked behind Kumomoto!
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2010 at 22:07
| Kumo, come back! You're my only shield! |
Posted By: Wuzzel
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2010 at 10:33
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He already has been tainted by me.
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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 19:46
So I went through one of those nuclear decontamination chambers where they flay your skin and subject you to incredibly strong disinfectants and I may (and I repeat only may) have managed to remove all the Wuzzelteria from my skin... 
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Posted By: Wuzzel
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 20:53
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I am under your skin!
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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 21:55
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Posted By: Dogbert
Date Posted: 14 Jul 2010 at 04:41
i love it that WHEN my country comes up, hitler's in it. no worries. if he did live here, he'd be living out of a crappy pension anyway. ------------- (.) |
Posted By: liberty6
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2010 at 07:48
look i hadn't read the entire post when i posted my comment about the beginning but i did find the reference to concentration camps really offencive. as for many Europeans taking offense i can see a great many Americans taking offense too because several came over or have ansestors that came over during that particular dark time in history and i am one of them. no offense diablito. but i do beg that you refrain from those jokes/puns or whatever you might call them. |
Posted By: rebel5360
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2010 at 05:18
While i dont live in germany, but i agree with Dogbert. whenever Germany comes up, its usally about nazis,hitler, or jews. that would be like talkign about china, and nintendo. Africa and slaves, the US and Bush. i say we start a club to stop people from stereotyping! or whatever people do when they state stuff like that... |
Posted By: Laccy
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2010 at 19:26
| Godwin's Law has been well and truly invoked. |
Posted By: -hypocritical-
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2010 at 22:03
when the thread is about concentration camps, it's hard for godwins law not to be invoked
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Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2010 at 01:40
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hehehe... you guys like arguing, huh? ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |