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Topic: Duuvian is confuzled
Posted By: Duuvian
Subject: Duuvian is confuzled
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 10:54
Sunstorm is innocent



Replies:
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 11:01
This post was also inaccurate.


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 11:36
They are.


Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 11:42
In that case I apologize wholeheartedly to Sunstorm and I was misinformed.


Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 11:59
Thanks Noki; I was too cowardly to send mine. Hats off to whoever did it.

Also I'm receiving some new info and this may be a terrible, terrible combination of a bad fluke of luck and also bad information I received long, long ago. You see, someone told me long ago that Atilla was Sunstorm out of the blue. It was a weird message from a new account that disappeared afterward but it was shortly (relatively; I'm hazy when exactly afterwards) after the outting of Attilla's network took place so I assumed it was someone from one of the alliances I assisted with that shenanigan making a junk account to anonymously contact me. I trusted that info even though I had heard in the future that it wasn't the case.

Still, waiting for confirmation though. I will keep you informed.

EDIT: It was a terrible combination of a bad fluke of luck and also bad information I received long long ago. Sunstorm is innocent and probably a pretty cool guy; I don't even know him.


Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 12:19
I am extremely upset that you dragged Sunstorm's name into your internal mess.  His only connection to this affair was that it was his army that killed your defending army(w/elemental) on the Rill tourney square.  A number of H? members had armies in motion to the square at the time.  









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Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 12:36
It's been determined. It was blind dumb luck and the product of that misinformation. I am awaiting my judgement. I was wrong and Sunstorm is NOT AttillaTheHun.

Please contact Anjire for a copy of my apology. I may or may not be around Illyriad in the future; but I still wish the best community in all of game-dom the best. I sincerely apologize to everyone and Sunstorm in particular. He has done nothing wrong and I acted too rashly; before I even had spoken to both of my sitters. It wasn't the one I didn't trust whom I should have trusted as he proves himself every day. It was the one I did trust because he didn't know any better and was trying to win the tournament and did not know it was irreplaceable. The fact that it was Sunstorm who destroyed the army is incredible bad luck.

As such this whole situation is all my fault. For dragging Sunstorm's good name through the mud I hearby resign my position as Expedition Leader for StA and am putting in place a council of StA members to be more in line with our idea that we are all equals in StA. You may contact KillianBlack, Chaos Armor, or Loud Whispers; or any other StA member for diplomatic matters as they will most likely be able to contact someone who handles such things.

I myself I think I will more or less banish from Illyriad willingly. I would like to return some day however, though maybe not as a leader of StA. That said, I will try to keep the accounts active by logging in enough to keep them from self destructing due to inactivity. In addition this will keep those accounts available to StA to use as they see fit. Rest assured that I will not be making day to day decisions in StA however as of late I have proven myself unfit to lead.

When I return I will be sure to let you all know. Know that this community's company I have enjoyed more than any other and I will miss it while I am away. If you wish to speak to me you may private message me on the Bay12 forums where I use the name Duuvian.

Also know that everything that transpired was entirely my own snap decisions with no input from any other member of StA.


Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 12:39
As I stated in my reply to you Duuvian - I am not your errand boy.  

If you feel appropriately apologetic - then you will personally write to those you wronged.  

I will not forward any message along, clean up your own mess don't dump responsibility on me.


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Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 13:16
[07 Oct 10:41]<duuvian> I'd rather have friends than elementals
[07 Oct 10:41]<magmablob> ive just sended friendship reques to everyone and i think that i send twice to one sorry
[07 Oct 10:42]<duuvian> Cool, sounds good magmablob
[07 Oct 10:54]<Loud Whispers> Hey guy, in over 2 days Harmless are going to take #1 spot on Rill
[07 Oct 10:54]<Loud Whispers> What do
[07 Oct 10:56]<Isdar> Nothing
[07 Oct 10:56]<duuvian> KB message
[07 Oct 11:07]<TomBombadil> Hmm, any more incoming attacks on Farra>
[07 Oct 11:08]<TomBombadil> *?
[07 Oct 11:11]<TomBombadil> bbl, need to get some work done Elf male tongue, :P
[07 Oct 11:17]<Loud Whispers> Well we're down to way too many troops
[07 Oct 11:18]<Loud Whispers> 0% casualties
[07 Oct 11:18]<Loud Whispers> On Farra
[07 Oct 11:18]<Loud Whispers> Splendid
[7 Oct 12:04]<duuvian> I don't know how that last message was deleted
[7 Oct 12:04]<duuvian> But it still stands
[7 Oct 12:04]<duuvian> I'm stepping down as leader of StA for at least 1 month
[7 Oct 12:04]<duuvian> when I return I'mm join the council of leaders that will be formed when I leave
[7 Oct 12:05]<duuvian> you will decide amongst yourself who will be in that council
[7 Oct 12:05]<duuvian> when I return I expect the alliance to be as strong or stronger as it is now
[7 Oct 12:06]<duuvian> know that this is hard for me to do as this truly is my favorite game
[7 Oct 12:06]<duuvian> and you are some of my favorite people
[07 Oct 12:06]<Loud Whispers> Don't leave D:
[7 Oct 12:06]<duuvian> I will only be logging in to make sure my accounts don't disappear
[7 Oct 12:06]<duuvian> I have to Whispers
[07 Oct 12:06]<TomBombadil> whoa
[07 Oct 12:06]<Loud Whispers> ...Why? Dwarf male frown, :(
[7 Oct 12:07]<duuvian> If you need my advice post in the Illyriad thread
[7 Oct 12:07]<duuvian> I made a terrible mistake today
[07 Oct 12:07]<TomBombadil> Elf male big grin, :D
[7 Oct 12:07]<duuvian> and acted on that mistake in very public view
[07 Oct 12:07]<TomBombadil> Nothing too terrible
[07 Oct 12:07]<TomBombadil> Elf male winking, ;)
[7 Oct 12:07]<duuvian> Yeah, it was enough for me to step down as leader, but I appreciate your concern
[07 Oct 12:08]<Loud Whispers> Eek
[7 Oct 12:08]<duuvian> As such form that council I mentioned
[7 Oct 12:08]<duuvian> and whe nI return I will be a member of said council
[07 Oct 12:08]<Loud Whispers> As long as you'll be back Dwarf male winking, ;)
[07 Oct 12:08]<Loud Whispers> Seems a bit harsh though
[07 Oct 12:08]<TomBombadil> Sounds good
[7 Oct 12:08]<duuvian> I promise I'll be back. Don't let outside forces keep that from happening
[7 Oct 12:09]<duuvian> I've taken full blame for the happenings and my accounts will still be around; I just won't be present personally
[07 Oct 12:11]<Loud Whispers> Who decides who's in the council?
[7 Oct 12:11]<duuvian> You all do; if yo uwant everyone is the council
[7 Oct 12:11]<duuvian> vote on it or something
[7 Oct 12:12]<duuvian> just make sure you take everyone into consideration as I've tried to do except in my worst moments
[7 Oct 12:12]<duuvian> like today
[7 Oct 12:12]<duuvian> just try to keep everything together if you could and as I've said you can reach me on the B12
[07 Oct 12:12]<Loud Whispers> Ok
[7 Oct 12:13]<duuvian> I'll miss you guys but this is something I think needs to be done
[07 Oct 12:13]<TomBombadil> Hope to see you soon
[07 Oct 12:13]<Loud Whispers> Agreed
[7 Oct 12:13]<duuvian> I'll try to login without making any sort of decisions to keep the accounts alive every so often; after a month I'll consider coming back
[7 Oct 12:14]<duuvian> And I likely will
[7 Oct 12:14]<duuvian> but it needs to be at least a month to be fair to the people I've done wrong today
[7 Oct 12:14]<duuvian> I'm going to copy and paste this to the public forums if you don't mind
[7 Oct 12:14]<duuvian> as part of my apology and penance
[07 Oct 12:15]<Loud Whispers> Not at all
[7 Oct 12:15]<duuvian> I'll take out the part about the wolves Elf male tongue, :P
[7 Oct 12:15]<duuvian> Goodluck to you all and thanks for being my friends
[7 Oct 12:15]<duuvian> and I WILL see you again soon in the future
[07 Oct 12:15]<Loud Whispers> Tom, should a circular be sent around in regards to the forming of the council?
[07 Oct 12:16]<Loud Whispers> We could all sort it out in the Bay12 thread
[07 Oct 12:16]<TomBombadil> I'll do so in a minute


Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 13:19
If that's not apology enough then I apologize. I retire from Illyriad for a while for the foolish actions taken today by me.


Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 13:19
You might want to edit out the troop information/tournament information.  

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Posted By: Loud Whispers
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 13:23
Sorry to see you go like this ;(


Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 13:27
Heh, oops I missed that. Thanks Anjire. Also I just discovered a strange quirk of Illyriad:

[07 Oct 12:16]<Loud Whispers> We could all sort it out in the Bay12 thread
[07 Oct 12:16]<TomBombadil> I'll do so in a minute
[07 Oct 12:16]<TomBombadil> Might be better to send it as an alliance mail
[07 Oct 12:16]<TomBombadil> unless you want o do it Elf male tongue, :P
[07 Oct 12:16]<TomBombadil> I can get to it in a minute in any case
[07 Oct 12:17]<Loud Whispers> For now... Valde Duuv
[07 Oct 12:17]<Loud Whispers> I'll prolly only briefly outline the initial suggestions in the b12 thread
[07 Oct 12:17]<Loud Whispers> May the corn be with you ;(
[7 Oct 12:22]<duuvian> Would you rather have Loud Whispers or Tom or Killian as temporary Alliance leader?
[07 Oct 12:22]<TomBombadil> Tom
[07 Oct 12:22]<TomBombadil> kekek Elf male tongue, :P
[7 Oct 12:23]<duuvian> They'll be able to make all the ranks as needed
[7 Oct 12:23]<duuvian> Anyone against Tom?
[07 Oct 12:23]<TomBombadil> Killian is a good bet, he's been a leader here the longest apart from you
[07 Oct 12:23]<Loud Whispers> Aye
[7 Oct 12:23]<duuvian> Alright; Killian it is.
[7 Oct 12:23]<duuvian> Actually I'll make Tom and Killian Leader
[7 Oct 12:24]<duuvian> Maybe Whispers too for a holy trinity or whatever
[07 Oct 12:24]<TomBombadil> 3 is good
[7 Oct 12:25]<duuvian> Oh what the hell I can't promote you until you're off a tourney square
[7 Oct 12:25]<duuvian> That's some bs
[7 Oct 12:26]<duuvian> Don't lose the tourney for that
[7 Oct 12:26]<duuvian> I mean seriously what the heck
[07 Oct 12:26]<Loud Whispers> Ok Dwarf male smile, :)
[07 Oct 12:26]<Loud Whispers> Seems odd
[7 Oct 12:26]<duuvian> Yeah
[7 Oct 12:26]<duuvian> Also this has to go on the forums; also if they don't believe me then they should try it
[7 Oct 12:26]<duuvian> When does thes abominable tourney end?
[07 Oct 12:26]<Loud Whispers> End of October
[7 Oct 12:27]<duuvian> Oh for crying out loud
[7 Oct 12:27]<duuvian> I can't even punish myself properly
[7 Oct 12:27]<duuvian> What the hell devs are you time travellers or something
[07 Oct 12:27]<Loud Whispers> ;(
[7 Oct 12:27]<duuvian> It's kind of funny but it sure won't look good
[7 Oct 12:28]<duuvian> I'm going to have to petition this one
[07 Oct 12:28]<Loud Whispers> Btw Anjure is right, prolly should edit out the Farra troop count on our square inthe post
[7 Oct 12:29]<duuvian> Did it



Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 13:31
So while technically I'm leader I'm really not. I won't be giving any direction or anything for at least a month though they can visit me on the B12 forums while I serve my penance.

This was entirely unforseen though it is funny in a way. Try it if you have a square in the tourney; try to promote someone to leader and you can't. It gives you a message that says "You can't remove someone in your alliance while they are on a tournament square." or something along those lines.

Seriously though that's brought a bit of humor to a very dark day for me.

I'll stay away for another month if necessary once the tourney is done. What say you Illy?


Posted By: TomBombadil
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 15:29
This is a post from the bay12 forums, to ambiguously provide some clarity:

"Last night I slandered in public an innocent person due to misinformation I had received in the past. I have thus resigned from the position of Expedition Leader of Slaves to Armok and requested that the alliance members form a decision making council in my absence. I will return in roughly one month from this date, possibly to join said council if they will have me. I will only login once or twice to ensure that my accounts remain active and not auto-deleted due to inactivity.

Some may say that this was unnecessary and extreme of me to do. I say that I will decide how best to handle my own mistakes and my own punishment. As such I've put myself under self imposed exile from my favorite game for the period of at least one month in the name of fairness to those I wronged last night. If my alliance requires my advice or other information from me they may reach me through this thread.

Until then, I expect them to hold the fort."    -Duuvian


For now, if you want to contact StA about anything, message Chaos Armor, KillianBlack or TomBombadil.


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 17:53
oh, for goodness sakes.  Knowing SunStorm, I doubt he would want anyone to stop playing Illy on the basis of a misunderstanding.  Granted, I didn't see the original post, but I doubt Sunny would want to see anyone hounded out of the game, or self-banished either.


Posted By: KillianBlack
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 22:48
Wow what 20+ plus hours can change in this world of Illy. For the record, Duuvian has always been a stand up person game wise, this was completely out of the norm for him. Though being away from the game as much as he has I can see how the wheels would have turned in his head a bit more then usual. 

With that said, it was in fact my fault for the Elemental being in the troop set sent to the tourney square. Innocent mistake on my part, as I did not realize they were not replaceable. So for my part in the mess, I send my apologies to all involved as well. Is funny being in this game as long as I have been but still only knowing such a small part of the world we all enjoy and how it can so easily swing out of control. 

I also want to send a shout out to any and all who helped keep it from blowing up any more then it did. Thanks to the cooler heads prevailing in this issue. 

To SunStorm; I don't know you but I am sorry for any misdirection of anger that was sent in towards you. 

To ChaosArmor; My friend you have fought a rough battle being with us in StA, and for my part in any of that I truly apologize. 

To Duuvian; mistakes happen to us all. Your apology is excepted and I hope you take mine in return. 

To All Members of H?; Thank you for your restraint and understanding and your continued good will towards StA.

Good marrows to all,

Killian The Black


Posted By: ES2
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 22:57
Originally posted by Duuvian Duuvian wrote:

It's been determined. It was blind dumb luck and the product of that misinformation. I am awaiting my judgement. I was wrong and Sunstorm is NOT AttillaTheHun.



Someone call my name?


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Posted By: Chaos Armor
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 03:37
I take a break for the weekend and everything turns sour...


Posted By: SunStorm
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2012 at 03:48
(My head is spinning.....  from this and cause my classmate was sick last week and now I seem to have caught what she had.  Dead)  

I still have no clue what all is going on.  Ill post again once I figure this all out....


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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2012 at 04:13
Sunny is in a bad way, he's lost his colours.


Posted By: SunStorm
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2012 at 04:37
Ok, this is truly disturbing!!!  Everyone loyal to me, ATTACK NOW!!!!

LoL - I can't even say that with a straight face.  The truth of the matter is that I just came back from a very peaceful weekend retreat (granted, I was getting sick - but it was still a lovely weekend in the woods).

First, Let this be a lesson to everyone: To those of you who thought I was a drama queen, I may have been out-done with this one.  (^_^)  No worries Duuvian.  LoL

I sent you an IGM (mentioning it here as well so friends can relay the message) - this is not worth quitting over.  I am not upset and not worried about this.  I am sure I have been called worse things than AtH.  (^_^)  Haha

And I am sorry, but I must disagree with you on this point:
Originally posted by Duuvian Duuvian wrote:

The fact that it was Sunstorm who destroyed the army is incredible bad luck.
I actually believe this was the best thing that could have happened.  I recently (for a college course I am taking) took a http://www.churchgrowth.org/cgi-cg/gifts.cgi" rel="nofollow - Spiritual Gifts Analysis , and I rated highest in "Showing Mercy."  Had this post been made about someone else, I am not sure how they would have taken it...but I am not upset in the slightest.

I would like to remind everyone out there that this is a game.  I am not above being questioned or challenged on particular game matters.  I am an open book.  Just ask me anything, and I will respond openly and truthfully (unless they are alliance matters, then I will refuse to answer). 


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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2012 at 05:16
I am glad to hear you had a great weekend, and glad to see your colours have returned.  Hope you get well soon.


Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2012 at 05:36
I don't know any of these folks (except AtH of course) but whatever happened, it seems a bit extreme to drop out of the game for something no one seems to be upset about.

Maybe he was ready for a break and this was a good reason to do it? I was recently less active and the tourney has lured me back. I felt the guilt of letting my friends down, not logging in as much, doing little when I did. Boredom and RL pushed me away but friends and the fun of combat have got me back.

If Duuvian decided to take this opportunity to drop out, so be it. I can see why a snap decision may cause one to feel less adequate as a leader, but dropping out is over doing it.

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Posted By: Bonaparta
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2012 at 09:35
Originally posted by SunStorm SunStorm wrote:

Ok, this is truly disturbing!!!  Everyone loyal to me, ATTACK NOW!!!!

Sending army now! WAAAAGH, death to confuzled players... hm my kobolt specially trained for this delicate operation will show this duuvian character! and what kind of an topic starter is that? "Sunstorm is innocent". Innocent for what? Yep I don't like the topic starter... training another kobolt. WAAAAGH!


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