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Recall/Undo on Trades

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Topic: Recall/Undo on Trades
Posted By: DeathDealer89
Subject: Recall/Undo on Trades
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 00:48
So I just posted a trade order but used total price instead of price per item.  I caught the mistake 2 seconds later but I already lost 40M in gold due to that stupid tax.  When are we going to get something that allows you to undo simple mistakes like this, similar to the recall option in military?  Same goes for gatherers.  



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Posted By: Fenrisulven
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 01:02
I agree absolutely.  You should be able to cancel a posted order prior to it getting filled without being taxed for it.  In addition, I would suggest that the taxes not be collected until the sale is actually made, and then have that amount deducted from the proceeds.  It is possible that a player could try to post a sell order on the market because they literally have 0 gold and they need to raise funds.  If there is no gold in their coffers to pay the tax upon posting, they would be unable to sell goods to raise funds.  It's a perfect Catch-22 situation.  In the real world, a merchant would go broke if they had to pay the sales tax on every item that they stocked on their shelves before the item was sold.  Collecting taxes in advance will simply depress the market as sellers will find themselves unable to afford to advertise goods for sale, a situation which will lead to an untaxable black market.


Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 01:52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooling-off_period" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooling-off_period

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Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 02:32
Well once the purchase is actually made sure go ahead and send the vans.  But before if you priced something with extra zeros, well no one would ever buy it and you could change it.  Now you pay taxes well above the extra money you would have made and no one will sell it.  So you get trade score thats pretty much it.


Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 11:12
Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

So you get trade score thats pretty much it.
Exploit... to get something worthless.

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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 13:18
You don't even get trade score unless someone accepts your offer.


Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 18:02
Well in that case, the king just takes your money for free and offers nothing.  Even better.  Although I thought trade score was based on amount of tax paid.  Either way not the focus of the thread.  The point here is as with many things in illy, a couple of clicks can completely screw you in the game. 


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 21:17
King Sigurd is a greedy pretender.  We have no need of kings, we can think for ourselves.  Hail the Undying Flame!


Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2012 at 23:47
Paying taxes at the time of the offer has more undesirable side-effects, e.g., changing prices down and up again results in a part of the taxes paid twice.  The research to change prices often is in essence useless.

I'm also reluctant to explore new hubs when I lose taxes for sell orders in the old hub for moved goods.




Posted By: EvilKatia
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2012 at 05:35
tax only when goods get sold would be better yeah *sigh at the tax she lost in gold over silly  pricing mistake*

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Posted By: RatuJone
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2012 at 07:47
What we obviously need in Illy is a trade lobby; gather support....   No taxation without representatation!!!!

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I'm pretty Harmless, really :)


Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2012 at 10:39
How about splitting it into 'Listing Fee' and 'Sales Tax'? There should still be a charge for creating a Buy/Sell order, but if there's a happy balance to be had, this split would find it.

The terms of the Faction/Trade Hubs needn't be perfect or make us completely happy; those are the operating conditions or rules we engage them with, the same for everyone.


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Posted By: JimJams
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2012 at 01:35
+1

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