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Topic: Number of trade orders
Posted By: dunnoob
Subject: Number of trade orders
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 02:07
The level(s) of the trade office(s) and further research determine the maximal numbers for buy and sell orders.  Is that per town, or per trader with that home town?  IOW, if I can place 40 buy orders with a trade office at level 20 and the Trade Notes research, and created two traders in this town, can they both maintain up to 40 buy orders, or are they limited to 40 buy orders together?

Background, I still haven't figured out why I might wish to keep a Merchants Guild at levels above 1 for one trader, or above 2 for two traders, after the faster trader production time for higher levels did what it should.  



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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 02:57
It's per account, spread across all the cities.

There is a new rationale for the merchants guild buildings being higher than 1, as researches that were just released require it.


Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 03:21
Interesting, thanks.   So with three trade offices 20+19+15=54 in different towns, and the "one sell order per level" research in these towns, two traders could split this as they see fit, e.g., 54=34+20, or 54=27+27, sell orders?


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 03:30
I believe each trade office is half as effective as the last, so it would be 20 plus 9 plus 3 (not sure how they do the rounding) or 32, split any way you wanted.


Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 03:40
The "half as effective" blurb was so far only used for more than one building of the same kind in one town; I'd be rather surprised if they changed this to "per account" for Trade Offices.   Time for Plan B, test it with dummy buy orders.  

But not the weird 567,890 gold offered by me for 1 wood yesterday, when I actually wanted 1 ~N~ Diamond.LOL  Fortunately nobody accepted the offer before I could cancel it.  Some details in the trade v2 UI still need lots of tuning.


Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 04:05
Originally posted by dunnoob dunnoob wrote:

Time for Plan B, test it with dummy buy orders. 
Test report:  You have reached the maximum number of hub buy orders you can place from this town. To increase your sell order limit you can research further trade technology (starting from 'Procurement') or you can build/upgrade additional Trade Offices in this town.

I hit the limit of 40 buy orders for a trade office 20 with the "two buy orders per level" research in this town for a trader from this town.  Two trade offices in other towns with unused buy orders didn't help.  The limit is not per account.  I still don't know -- and can't test yet -- if a second trader from this town would get 40 additional buy orders, or share this limit of 40 buy orders with the first trader from the same town.


Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 13:20
Originally posted by dunnoob dunnoob wrote:

Originally posted by dunnoob dunnoob wrote:

Time for Plan B, test it with dummy buy orders. 
Test report:  You have reached the maximum number of hub buy orders you can place from this town. To increase your sell order limit you can research further trade technology (starting from 'Procurement') or you can build/upgrade additional Trade Offices in this town.

I hit the limit of 40 buy orders for a trade office 20 with the "two buy orders per level" research in this town for a trader from this town.  Two trade offices in other towns with unused buy orders didn't help.  The limit is not per account.  I still don't know -- and can't test yet -- if a second trader from this town would get 40 additional buy orders, or share this limit of 40 buy orders with the first trader from the same town.

This is what I understood from the description (haven't tested as I have only one trade city)

The limit is per account, spread across all trade hubs, for each different town you have  a trader from. In your case, the limit of 40 buy orders would be used by the traders from that particular city.

A trade office is of help only to the traders from that city. Don't bother to build a trade office if you do not have a merchants guild as well.

EDIT:
PS: I feel it is very bad strategy to make traders from more than one city. Apart from taking up building spaces in multiple cities, it becomes much more difficult to compare prices.



Posted By: Bonaparta
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 22:36
I asked GM TC that question directly. His answer was that each town that has lvl 20 trade office has 100 buy and sell offers with all the research done. But traders from #1 town can only make 100 buy/sell offers and the same for traders from #2 town. Each town with trade office must have its own traders.

And Dunoob if you think that 40 sell/buy offers is much. I currently have 60 sell offers and 40 buy offers available, I'm still researching, trade office is lvl 20. I used up all my sell and buy orders... I'm seriously thinking of making another trade town.


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Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2012 at 02:31
Originally posted by Bonaparta Bonaparta wrote:

if you think that 40 sell/buy offers is much
Quite the contrary, that's why I'm worried about the second trader for this home town.  If they share the order limits it's too bad.  I'll know next week how bad it is.Dead



Posted By: SugarFree
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2012 at 04:27
40 is PLENTY...

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Posted By: Learner
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 03:22
Given that we're allowed to fill partial orders, I'm not sure why 100 of each buy and sell orders is not enough?


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 04:25
I suppose if you want to trade multiple items in multiple faction hubs?


Posted By: JimJams
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 09:06
Originally posted by SugarFree SugarFree wrote:

40 is PLENTY...

... if you aren't a trader 

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