Example: the Heavy Warhorse:

+5% attack, -5% move speed, +10% Carry,

-5% on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle

Question is: -5% of what in these regions? of the carry? or the speed? or everything?? (the last one seems a little scary)

Or is it a matter of -5% of the stat immediately before it? in this case, carry?

Same question goes for the region-specific armor and weapons:

Desert Spear: -4% in Arctic, +6% in Desert, - 4% in Jungle

I assume weapon stat only affects attack, and armor, defense?

And if def, what defense? all?

Thanks!

So is that +5% increase on everything, then a -5% decrease on hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle, meaning they cancel each other out and there is no decrease or increase on said areas? 

Or is it a +5% attack on everything that is not hills, mountains; in forests, Arctic, Desert, and Jungle and then a -5% on them? 

Perhaps these should be reworded to make them more understandable. 

These are unit stat adjustments - after which are then applied things like terrain, divisional bonuses etc. So the other bonuses (added together) multiply the equipment bonuses.

was wondering same

 So, as I understand following the Heavy Warhorse:

 If you attack on a hill in jungle you get a total bonus (malus) of -5%, right?

 Another issue (not sure if it has already been answered), is that as I understand troops (and commanders) can be equiped with 1 armour, 1 weapon and 1 horse. But the armour and weapon are troop specific. 

 So a spearmen unit will need to be equiped with leather and a spear.

 A knights that uses both chainmail and plate is gonna be able to choose, right?

 But then, this knight can only have a spear as a weapon, right? No sword? :(

 Thanks,

 TH

This is incorrect ThunderCat because the +5% is only in attack so they don't quite cancel each other.

I answer in order:

- no, you get a total bonus/malus of 0% on hills. First a generic +5% to attack anywhere, then a -5% because it's on hills. It means a total 0%.

edit: sorry I didn't see you wrote hills with jungle. In that case... I'm wondering too ^^

when there is no type of bonus stated it means it is a bonus/malus to attack and defense period. Otherwise it is stated what it applies to.

- the second question is a matter of speculation since equipping isn't live yet. From what I would assume you should be able to equip soldiers with any piece of armor used to train them. So if a knight is equipped with a chainmail and a platemail why should you chose which to give him? However, from the commander interface it looks like you can only equip them with one armor piece.

Correct

+5% (attack) - 5% (hill terrain) - 5% (jungle) = -5% (total attack)

Defense from any attacker would be -10% in that same location.

jordigui wrote:  Another issue (not sure if it has already been answered), is that as I understand troops (and commanders) can be equiped with 1 armour, 1 weapon and 1 horse. But the armour and weapon are troop specific.   So a spearmen unit will need to be equiped with leather and a spear.  A knights that uses both chainmail and plate is gonna be able to choose, right?  But then, this knight can only have a spear as a weapon, right? No sword? :(

Again, correct (I think, see below)

If a unit is trained (built, produced, created, etc...) with more than one armor or weapon type (knight with chain and plate) then you can pick which type to equip, but only one type (chain or plate).  If a unit is not trained with a specific weapon or armor type (knight doesn't need sword) you can't equip that type.

Example, a Human Pikemen unit can equip [leather or chain] as their armor and [spear] as their weapon.  There is no "spearmen" unit so I wasn't sure if you knew that some spear unit types had two types of armor and you could choose either to equip.

For humans, the following [armor] and [weapon] types can be equipped:

Militiaman [leather] [spear]

Pikeman [leather or chain] [spear]

Archer [leather] [bow]

Longbowman [leather] [bow]

Swordsman [chain] [sword]

Man-At-Arms [chain or plate] [sword]

Charioteer [leather] [spear] I think, someone help here

Knight [chain or plate] [spear]

this guy is the guy that coded this. i guess he knows better.

Mhh, since charioteers only need horses, saddle and beer to train, and no armor or weapon, i wonder if, and what, they will be able to equip...

Thank you, that's what I recall too but I couldn't remember where.

 

Actually the thread is a query on the % stats on the new horses and as my question was new horse related it seemed the right place to ask..but hey, lets not split hairs.

I thought maybe a quick answer here would save clogging the forum up with another thread.

the reason i asked my question is because charioteers use...as far as i knew..chariots, noted for their speed and carry capacity, if i can now equip them with the new horses what happens to the carry capacity?

war wolves state a 20% carry capacity yet no horses do.

 

I don't think this was the wrong place to ask, you phrased the question in the present tense and the crafted horses can not be used yet.  All the % stats are tied to crafted items and have no current use.  But, to build a chariot you still need a horse so chariots have always "used horses" (just like all T1 and T2 cav "use horses", even orc "wolfriders" which you would think would use wolves).

Actually, an Illyriad chariot uses a horse (not two), saddle (huh?), beer and no wood.  I'm not sure it makes sense from a logical or realistic perspective.  Real chariots (from Earth history) may carry a lot (I'm not sure about that premise) but from a military perspective I don't think they are all that fast.  It's hard to get a wheeled cart moving as quickly as a man on horseback over uneven ground.

I actually made a request a long time ago to rename the "Chariot" something that made sense (light cav, dragoon, whatever).  Chariots don't seem to fit with the flow of the game.  It's funny, they put a great deal of thought into details like continent names but then they have two military types as contemporary units (knights and chariots) whose militarily use on Earth peaked ~2,000 years apart.  I'm not even aware of a fantasy setting that places them as contemporaries (but I haven't read everything so maybe someone will speak up and school me).

 

no..they dont, the ability to now equip t1 commanders with horses destroys their title as charioteers