Trade chat? Why not black market chat
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Topic: Trade chat? Why not black market chat
Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Subject: Trade chat? Why not black market chat
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 04:54
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Does anyone else love the crafting/gathering elements but believe trading to be now too complicated its fine to have your opinion guys but to those who don't want to be taxed or constantly sending out traders pop by the new black market https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap8dCcUU8OPRdGd3MlRxcnpyZ1dMX200NmtHemdjSkE#gid=0" rel="nofollow - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap8dCcUU8OPRdGd3MlRxcnpyZ1dMX200NmtHemdjSkE#gid=0
Where you can buy and sell all under the table and away from the taxing and stress of the ever changing hub prices. Any questions please do send me a message or post a reply but if you want to make actual changes to the content (such as the selling title) please do ask me first! Thanks y'all and remember BLACK MARKET IS BEST MARKET! ------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart. |
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Posted By: Janosch
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 11:29
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ITG and TOR have founded the Illyriad Trade Union quite some time ago. Since that time we do hope that Trade V2 will be implemented to make it worth to join ITU. How does it work? Players and/or alliances can become members of ITU. You can trade whatever you like, herbs, iron or other services (like spy or military services) or whatever you can think about. Another benefit is that the trade court will be established soon and if someone cheats you, you can complain and might even get compensation. The forum shall also serve for networking of trade oriented players. Join up: http://republic.monsterforum.net/t97-welcome-to-the-illyriad-trade-union" rel="nofollow - http://republic.monsterforum.net/t97-welcome-to-the-illyriad-trade-union If you have any questions contact Naxos or Janosch ------------- You like Democracy? Join the http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/topic3448_post42792.html#42792" rel="nofollow - Old Republic ! |
Posted By: Ossian
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 12:54
 "Hello George? Aarry's started up his black market business again"  "Nah then 'Aarry. come along quietly" Only kidding mate . Best of Luck  |
Posted By: SugarFree
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 13:29
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holy crap, stop your complaining , you vets are supposed to be used to this. no really, this is freaking annoying.. to see people i respect turn into crying sissies cause the game to a little learning curve.. take the change head up, you are embarrassing yourself
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Posted By: Myzel
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 13:53
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SugarFree wrote:Posted By: Sisren
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 14:28
say the troll who is afraid to show their name... ------------- Illy is different from Physics- Reactions are rarely Equal, and rarely the opposite of what you'd expect... |
Posted By: Sisren
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 14:30
You might be a little too early Harry. We do not know what the tax will be, and some might just pay it for the convenience of speed and freeing u their units. ------------- Illy is different from Physics- Reactions are rarely Equal, and rarely the opposite of what you'd expect... |
Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 15:06
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< id="_npwlo" ="applicationpwlo" height="0"> Its merely an alternative to what looks to be a complicated procedure in trading the new resource types, as well as having to spend gold and time on shipping out traders to all hubs, this is just a bypass.. Its not meant to ruin anyones experience... Sugarfree, woah! Aggression there unfounded bud ;) just because someone else came up with a neat little meta-gaming idea, doesn't mean you have to get all flipdopity doo dah bab-bing bong Sugarfree: 0 Harry: 0 Bill cosby: 1 ------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart. |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 15:44
| Harry's link can be used to trade stuff that can't be traded on the regular market yet. Go Harry! |
Posted By: Sisren
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 17:11
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I will admit, its a good way to cheat the system. ------------- Illy is different from Physics- Reactions are rarely Equal, and rarely the opposite of what you'd expect... |
Posted By: Naxos
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 17:15
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The Illyriad Trade Union is up and running! Soon there will be a hosted trade tournament, being led by yours truly, the Illyriad Trade Union. Also in addition to doing this trade tournament, there will be a limited and generous offer to anyone or any alliance who wishes to join the ITU will be given a warm welcome gift. Otherwise you can join for the wit-filled dialogue or the friendly atmosphere, the Illyriad Trade Union is the place for you! Interested? Please contact Janosch and/or myself Best wishes to y'all and good luck trading
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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 19:44
| I sold my first Brascan seed! Thanks Shadow! |
Posted By: Hadus
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 04:51
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I can see the black market and trade v2 working in harmony, actually. The trader/faction hub system prodives convenience and security, while the black market offers availability and control. Both have advantages and disadvantages, which would lead to yet more meaningful choices for players. Do I purchase from the black market to find exactly what I want, or from a trade hub to get it faster? ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/157483" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: twilights
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 12:18
| it would really be nice to see a good barter trade system, goods for goods. nice job on the black market. |
Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 17:30
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Ha! Someone found the Muskrats! -------------  |
Posted By: geofrey
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2012 at 21:21
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Great idea. I hope the blackmarket stays alive and well. Could use some tweaking, but I'm no guru with the google docs. I suspect in a month or so more players will be looking to trade as they decide hoarding resources may not be the best way to play. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/45534" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 21:07
| Could you add something to list trustworthy/untrustworthy traders? I know it's a black market but it would be nice to know if someone's a cheat or not. |
Posted By: Elf Dragon
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 21:15
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That would be pretty hard. I was trading with 4 players, they are all good :P And I like that black market! It's really usseful. I don't want to pay 500000 gold just for one buy order in the Hubs! |
Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 21:28
| Yea I know it would be hard, was just hoping there would be someone with a clever idea |
Posted By: Silverleaf
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2012 at 07:27
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Since they set the system up to cheat us by it's very design - then it needs to be cheated |
Posted By: Turtie
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2012 at 02:04
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Trading through Faction Hubs is awesome. Graphs/Charts/Data is all wonderful. It would be even better if ALL transactions were actually recorded instead of shady characters setting up their own barter systems 'off-hub'. Spare me the BS excuses of learning curves, taxes etc - and help advance the game. Don't hinder one aspect of the game that has so much potential. now I may be reading into future releases a bit much but. . .these hubs could fight FOR you in the future. . .or AGAINST if you chose to not have a relationship with them. . . |
Posted By: Silverleaf
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2012 at 11:40
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so - Because someone seeks to avoid a system that hinders profitable trade and PENALIZES competition and turns to means and markets in which to compete that don't penalize them - they are shady ? LOL Really no shadier than a tax system that charges you merely for posting a POSSIBLE sell and penalizes you even if it dont and you decide that you might need to change it Right - I will keep that in mind while i am counting the gold i didnt have to pay to an unjust tax system |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2012 at 18:48
| The graphs/charts/data reflect only the local hub and thus don't provide much in the way of meaningful information -- certainly not anything that a trader who paid reasonable attention to the market couldn't glean just by observing. In theory they could be a wonderful thing, in practice they are not really worth the effort of having a trader there, with the possible exception of Centrum, which has become the de facto centralized market. |
Posted By: Bonaparta
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2012 at 20:49
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Those charts are very useful. Of course you have to have several traders to fully benefit from them. Sometimes it is very nice to know which resource is produced in the area and can be bought cheaply and which resources should be shipped to that trading hub. To say that Centrum is the only working hub is very untrue. It is true that it is the hub with most traffic, but I for example do only about 25%-30% business in Centrum. Basic resource trade can only be done locally and many players simply didn't invest in traders and associated buildings/research. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/95216" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Janosch
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2012 at 04:22
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I agree. My experience is that trade activities in local hubs are much more profitable. Most of the interesting deals I make in more isolated hubs. I kind of stoped my activities at Centrum.
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Posted By: Llyr
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2012 at 04:49
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My experience is the opposite to Janosch. I have a trader in Centrum, and four additional traders in four local hubs. Other than Tundale (which is close to me so I use it for storage) none of the local hubs are useful, and I'd like a way to kill off the traders there to save on their maintenance cost. Prices are (almost) always worse than at Centrum, and the selection of items is quite meagre by comparison. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/a/p/187558" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Gossip Boy
Date Posted: 25 Dec 2012 at 09:59
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I prefer trading in hubs over black market because hubs give you storage space and you aren't afraid of being thieved there.Also you can compare prices which i don't think is that easy in the blackmarket. I do agree that centrum has emerged as the single most important hub but I think other hubs such as zhuhai/humayan are also catching up. Currently, zhuhai can provide herbs, salts and some minerals at a cheaper price than centrum and I can foresee emergence of similar such hubs in west and north elgea. Currently, I 've traders in centrum,zhuhai, the barracks and humayan. The later two contribute 15% each to my revenue generation while centrum and zhuhai have a share of 30% and 40% each :) ------------- Elessar2 [08:34]<Rill> when you've just had part of your brain taken out, you lack a certain amount of credibility <KillerPoodle> I can say anything I like and it is impossible to prove or disprove |