The war was started because I made an error in judgement. I allowed personal feelings to cloud good judgement and engaged TLR in an unfair, and unjust war that was not called for, and for that I apologize. I will also say that TLR defended their members with an excellent show of strength and courage, and in the end, The Red Order was outmatched. 

I will follow the terms to the best of my ability, and prepare to send out 15 million gold, as directed by item 2, and item 4 (b).

Congratulations to TLR for their victory.

Not to ruin the celebrations, but don't you think reaching into someone's pocket is crossing a line? I mean, that's actual money beyond the daily bonus.

Agree. asking for prestige does leve an strange felling... Is this one of the dangers that The Human Dude warned us about the Prestige alliance? Evil, Evil elfs asking for prestige or nihilation? ( hey, im an Orc i interpet "reality" by Orc eyes! Is not my fault : P ) 

 

 

 

Five players contribute 1 "free" Prestige point per day for six months for a total of (6X30X5=) 900. No dollars, pounds, sheckles or whatever. Plenty of Prestige to go around AND complete he terms.

I do not know where this "War" originated...bad manners, hurt feelings, I don't know but it was declared and engaged by one side before the other, a clear set of events. 

The naysayers are expected and predictable. There is no circumstance in which an alliance that wishes to be taken seriously can "roll over" and expect to prosper. We defended ourselves first and then took the fight to the enemy. Show me an alliance that doesn't do that and I will show you a "dead" alliance. 

Cities Lost?

Sieges destroyed?

Go get em' solider.

oh, 15 mil, ouch

Ell Oh Ell

didnt care to mention it before but 15 mil is nothing.... if i wanted 15 mil i would just ask one of our big orcs and i could get 20, tho i dont really need that either :P i have more then that in cash already myself and i never sell much stuff..

But let it be known that if anyone ever expects me to cough up pres in defeat, it will never happen - a. because I don't anticipate being defeated for something that entails me saying sorry, &

b. because I'm a miser who won't surrender RL money as part of any surrender

i agree. 

never. i say NEVER will i ever support such preposterous claims, as demanding prestige from a defeated warrior. ( who will need all prestige possible to rebuild).

shame on the greed of the victors, and shame on their lack of honor. 

I bow to both parties. 

Lay down weapons after a bitter war requires wisdom, and wisdom is a rare virtue.

+2

I seem to recall that Thordor called me a warmonger in GC, it is apparent that this surrender would prove that as unfounded as he picked another fight he could not win, which was caused by another error in judgement. 

Looks like the better alliance won, congrats to TLR. 

From the look of that your previous comment was complete joke. Even then you couldnt answer why i was a warmonger, maybe you could make something up now if you like. 

The fact that you conveniently overlooked, was that it was ok for a 8000 pop player to attack a 700 pop player mercilessly then lie in GC that they were being attacked for no reason. Not only did you believe them you acted on it, in a rash manner making an error in judgement which in your own words you admitted that you do. 

Either way I dont care. If you have a problem with it, grow your cities again then come and find me, you wanted a war monger now you got one. 

"grow your cities again then come and find me, you wanted a war monger now you got one. "

Even if I did call you a war monger it would seem I was right. How pathetic.

It wasn't my intention to offend. (Except my last post, that was intended to offend a little). I thought I was doing the right thing protecting a new player, and others had said you where a known war monger, that's why I chose those words. (I won't give names, no that doesn't mean I'm lying, it means I don't want to drop other people in it).

As I said, I've made mistakes, I accept that and I'm sorry for them, but I've learned from them. Can you honestly say you've never made mistakes?

Personally I would not have had the prestige part as part of the reparations but it was not my war, nor my negotiation and both parties agreed to it. As posted earlier I do not think this would set a precedent in the game either, as there are other means to settle conflicts available to the affected parties.   Each conflict is unique and will produce unique outcomes. 

But hey, this is a war game and s$%t happens. 

Luna