From the Dev Blog: Alliance Prestige Pool Preview
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Topic: From the Dev Blog: Alliance Prestige Pool Preview
Posted By: GM Luna
Subject: From the Dev Blog: Alliance Prestige Pool Preview
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 19:00
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Hello Illyrians, We have yet another important feature coming up in the next update of the game, the introduction of the Alliance Prestige Pool. This will give players an opportunity to share prestige via donation into a communal Alliance bank.  More info and a FAQ are available at our dev blog. Please take a look and let us know your thoughts or any questions about the system in the comments or reply to this thread. http://www.illyriad.co.uk/blog/index.php/2012/06/preview-alliance-prestige-pool/" rel="nofollow - http://www.illyriad.co.uk/blog/index.php/2012/06/preview-alliance-prestige-pool/
GM Luna ------------- GM Luna | Illyriad Community Manager | community@illyriad.co.uk 
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Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 19:52
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I imagine that there will now be a greater distinction between 'alliance prizes' and 'individual prizes' for future tournys? Seems like a good thing - no more swelling of ranks/recycling members and fixed participation from initial member list. |
Posted By: Quackers
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 20:12
| This is going to be sweet, such a great idea and wonderful work on the layout. |
Posted By: White Beard
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 20:37
| And more fluff, but it doesn't help if your friend who you are a sitter for is not in your alliance. Still can't help that friend like we could with the FB points. That set up was great and helped a lot |
Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 20:50
Have to agree, we need game content improvements, bugs fixed and promised enhancements that are long past due. ------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless? "Truth never dies." -HonoredMule |
White Beard wrote:Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 21:21
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This seems like it would be great for things like new players building toward exodus or alliances that want to help players who are being sieged. Example: Player A creates Account A. Account A is set up as an account at the lead of an alliance. Player A creates Account B, joins the alliance, donates free prestige and immediately suspends the account. Player A creates Account C, joins the alliance, donates free prestige and suspends the account. Etc., etc. If done by a single player, this could create the accumulation of a sizable pool of prestige. If the player sets up accounts for "family members" as well, then it gets bigger. Not sure what the solution for this is, but it's a problem that should be addressed before the release of this feature. I'm not sure how I feel about the general idea of donating prestige to an alliance pool. Seems like it has the potential to create pressure within alliances to donate (although goodness knows there's an irrational opposition among many Illyrians even to the idea of an alliance tax, which is almost undetectable). Maybe all of these concerns I described could be addressed by having an upper limit on allowable withdrawals by a specific individual, such as 25 per day (with the alliance having freedom to set lower limits as well). I dunno, seems like "big headache, small benefit." The concept of alliance medals being "purchased" with prestige is also an interesting one. I guess it's good to have more creative ways to use prestige.
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 21:29
Yeah, where are those muskrats SC?
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Posted By: scottfitz
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 21:42
| Sitters should be unable to use this prestige also, to prevent this feature from being exploited by inactive's account sitters. |
Posted By: Daefis
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 21:48
| I have to agree that this may be useful but it's not what will keep people playing. Where's water sov, trade V2, factions.......? Seems a lot of time is being spent fixing what isn't broken and not on delivering the content that's promised but is always coming soon.... |
Posted By: scottfitz
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 21:51
| And I completely agree with Starry, lets close a few loopholes and exploits before opening some new ones |
Posted By: Crozno
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 22:16
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I appreciate all of the different ways to address game play, but am firmly in the camp to devote the resources to cleaning up what was already released or intended to be released. This alliance pool needs mechanisms to prevent abuse, e.g. you could separate prestige to paid/non-paid and only allow the paid to be donated ... if that is too hard/harsh then enforce the individual's prestige to always be at least 25 when donating to stop new player pres farming. |
Posted By: geofrey
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 22:27
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I was thinking player to player prestige gifting (once researched) would be the method of transferring prestige. Of course then you can threaten to siege someone unless they give you prestige :) The alliance prestige pool system suggested (everything devs post is only a suggestion until it goes live... cough...tax-doesn't-effect-food...cough) has different uses. - This system will give more meaning and purpose to alliances. - Prestige Pool use/availability to alliance rank will encourage strong alliance hierarchy, and give new players something to thrive for. - This is a gateway to alliance achievement's that grant additional prestige to the prestige pool. (example: 100% of members complete a quest in 1 day - reward 1 prestige) - One of the benefits of befriending a faction could be alliance prestige - Prevents non-allies from being coerced into giving prestige away. Only alliance mates can share prestige. This will really encourage less alliance fracturing/multiplying, and empower all the alliances that are currently out there. Only downside will be what Rill suggested.
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Posted By: Nodrog
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 22:32
| Piffle. We don't need no stinking pres pot. |
Posted By: Jabbels
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2012 at 23:09
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Cannot wait for all these updates. The sooner the better I say :) ------------- 
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Posted By: GM Luna
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 00:02
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Account sitters will not be able to spend from an alliance prestige pool, just as they cannot spend the sat account's prestige. There will be a limit so that you cannot donate your last 25 prestige to prevent the temptation of account farming that Rill described. Thanks for your feedback and keep it coming! Luna ------------- GM Luna | Illyriad Community Manager | community@illyriad.co.uk
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Posted By: grizzly
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 00:27
Then what is to stop them from just waiting one day, get their 1 free prestige and then donating 25 prestige. etc. |
Posted By: GM Luna
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 00:44
To clarify, you can not donate the last 25 prestige in your account. So if someone did this, they could donate 1 prestige only. Luna ------------- GM Luna | Illyriad Community Manager | community@illyriad.co.uk
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Posted By: Quackers
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 00:48
Well if they cannot donate their last 25 prestige, then if they wait one day they can only donate 1 prestige. Really stop complaining already. I'm shocked the developers want to give us anything with all the complaining people do. |
Posted By: PirateKing
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 01:32
With the deepest humility, thank you very much. ------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/external/alliance.asp?AllianceID=401" rel="nofollow - ~SouthSeasPirates~ |
Posted By: Quackers
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 02:15
You can read into text by the way a person types and yes there is alot of complaining. Not talking about here on the forums but in guilds and people on the game as well. |
Posted By: PirateKing
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 02:25
------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/external/alliance.asp?AllianceID=401" rel="nofollow - ~SouthSeasPirates~ |
Posted By: Rohk
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 02:31
| I agree with Starry but I would just like to add that having to pay Prestige for alliance medals just looks like a way to squeeze more money out of us depending on what the costs end up being. It could make alliance tournaments a more costly proposition if the alliance wants to use medals to award the winners. |
Posted By: PirateKing
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 02:34
------------- http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/external/alliance.asp?AllianceID=401" rel="nofollow - ~SouthSeasPirates~ |
Posted By: dunnoob
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 03:33
When I started playing there was this guy offering 1M gold to each player joining his new alliance. With the prestige pool he could offer 1K prestige.
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Posted By: Salararius
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 04:01
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Posted By: Prometheuz
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 10:50
| This is perhaps not such a good idea when you consider the amount of multiple accounts there are in this game. I think it may lead to a move away from game play and place more accent on prestige control and income generation. It is possible that you may develop a situation, in a sandbox context, where alliances are literally buying their way into higher rankings and enhanced status. |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 15:31
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Alliance Prestige to buy Medals - pfft. Very few "pro" comments to Alliance Prestige in my AC. Many "con" comments, so I doubt this will be used in my alliance.
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