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Contest: Best City Placement

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Topic: Contest: Best City Placement
Posted By: invictusa
Subject: Contest: Best City Placement
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 00:26
I was thinking about initiating a player run contest for the best placement of a single city.  The aim would be to have the winning cities as an example for newer players to use as a model for what to look for in their city placement.

"Best" is certainly ambiguous, and this being a sandbox game, your personal opinion of what is best for your cities should prevail over a prescribed method of gameplay.  With that said, I would just like to reiterate that this thread is merely meant to serve as a reference of what to consider looking for.
so ...

There could be different categories such as:
Best production town
Best military town
Best Cav town
Best magic town
Best race specific town 
etc. 
and etc.

Consideration should be given to potential, not present circumstances.  (i.e. unclaimed sov bonuses apply, current city pop does not.)

If you nominate a town, state which category, give a coordinate Hyperlink, and a short explanation of why the town is ideal for you.

Quote the coordinate with a +1 to vote

In 1 month's time I will tally the votes and edit this post and list the winners.

Cheers


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Posted By: GM Luna
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 00:32
Very cool idea invictusa!

Luna


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Posted By: Janosch
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 00:57
Originally posted by GM Luna GM Luna wrote:

Very cool idea invictusa!

Luna


I agree Clap


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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 01:11
If I win, do I get to keep the city?

Wink


Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 01:40
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

If I win, do I get to keep the city? Wink
No, but we all get a list of cities worth siegeing :o)


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 02:34
Originally posted by Albatross Albatross wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

If I win, do I get to keep the city? Wink
No, but we all get a list of cities worth siegeing :o)

lol


Posted By: Aurordan
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 02:36
If we can siege it, it wasn't a very well placed city, was it?


Posted By: GM Luna
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 02:47
Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Originally posted by Albatross Albatross wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

If I win, do I get to keep the city? Wink
No, but we all get a list of cities worth siegeing :o)

lol

Quit trollin' you! Shoo! :P

Luna


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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 02:52
-325|-430 hands down. 


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 02:55
Originally posted by GM Luna GM Luna wrote:

Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Originally posted by Albatross Albatross wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

If I win, do I get to keep the city? Wink
No, but we all get a list of cities worth siegeing :o)

lol

Quit trollin' you! Shoo! :P

Luna

somebody's in truBUHL ...

/me waits for Stormcrow to feel the sting of the mighty ban-hammer.


Posted By: LordOfTheSwamp
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 05:56
Kurdruk's Pit is the ultimate des res for the discerning Orc.

131/529

It has no growth potential, it's impossible to defend from my other towns, yeah, yeah, whatever.

But consider:
* At the centre of the biggest swamp in Elgea, the stench that blows in from the marsh is a delight to the discerning Orc nose.
* Its' breweries produce the world famous Bog Beer, brewed nowhere else. It's beer, it stinks like the swamp, and it has extra crunchy bits. And chewy bits. And wriggling bits. The wriggling bits are especially good.
* It's just down the road from the multi-racial Fyrgis party town of Lostwithiel, where the tourist can always find such delights as toad-poking contests and or scorpion-baiting matches.
* And best of all, no Elves. They get all nauseous in the swamp, you see.

I'm sorry to enter the contest so early with such an obviously superior town. I mean, you can enter you "carefully optimised 15k T2 Elf Cavalry City of of Doom" if you want but really, you're outclassed.

;-)


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Posted By: LordOfTheSwamp
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 06:08
Ok, Ok, in the interest of giving examples of genuinely intelligently placed towns for new players to look at... here's an example of a defensively constructed town.

29/800
Icebitten Crags

* Defending against attacks and raids, the mountaintop location is perfect.
* Defending against sieges, every single surrounding square is a Plains, which makes it vulnerable to cavalry counterattacks (Kurdruk? have cavalry? surely not!)
* It's close to my (and my Alliance's) other cities if it requires rapid reinforcement or siege-breaking.
* Half the surrounding Plains are also a rare biome, so most peoples' armies will be vulnerable there to counters from an alliance ("The Lords of Frost", really, what Warfare Colleges do you think we tend to build?) accustomed to fighting in the Arctic.
* It has a couple of extra food squares nearby, so isn't too restricted on growth.

And as a bonus, it's slightly more interesting that a generic food-fest military town. Yes, I have one or two of those as well, but they're dull.


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Posted By: Conclave
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 10:21
Ah Great Orc Kurdruk, while I admire the defensive properties of your Icebitten Crags, such defences are feeble by comparison with the ancient seat of my family, the old town of Sphettos.

minus 314 by minus 820

While an army camped without your walls might be vulnerable to your howling hordes, an army that sought to camp without my walls would simply drown.

Your reinforcements might be close, but I hazard that my reinforcements from Sphettos North Point and Sphettos Agora would reach my Old Town more swiftly.


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 14:07
I liked your first suggestion more LoTS. 


Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 16:06
This is awesome! 

But I have most of my cities in mediocre locations, a few in strikingly mediocre locations.Ermm




Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 16:10

Originally posted by Aurordan Aurordan wrote:

If we can siege it, it wasn't a very well placed city, was it?

Good point Aurordan Big smile



Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 17:10
-1002|44


Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2012 at 17:28
-692/451
For basic resource production.  It has not only 14 and 16 food squares nearby, but also clay, iron, and wood (the three more crucial building materials, in my opinion).  


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Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 22:38
My own towns usually found some good places, but none could actually top this city:

"Otang" of McFarhquar  (located at 302/-908).
It is positioned on a Bountiful Lands, thus has optimal basic values from the start.
It has a 17 and a 19 food spot nearby, further it is surounded by some 7 food squares with additional boni on horse and cavalry production.

So at least for "best cavalry city", it will be hard to find a better spot than that one (me getting a little bit envious... Wink).

So vote for this fine example of a city... Clap



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