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Topic: 09Apr12 - Town Chooser Dropdown
Posted By: GM ThunderCat
Subject: 09Apr12 - Town Chooser Dropdown
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 12:32
We have temporarily disabled the graphical town chooser due to a number of issues players have been experiencing with it.

A regular drop-down box now serves this function.


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Posted By: lokifeyson
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 12:33
wow was wondering just now lol



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Posted By: Thordor
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 12:36
Ooh, It's all go on the technical side of Illy eh? YOU GO GET 'EM TC!! RIGHT OOWWNNNN!


Posted By: LadyLuvs
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 12:38
Thanks TC.  I know it is plain but it takes up less space for now. :D

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Posted By: lokifeyson
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 12:53
i like that it takes up less space, just wish it told some more info lol

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Posted By: Captain Ganoes Paran
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 13:02
I like the new drop-down better Smile Go GM's !!!


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 13:08
Yeh I thought it was just me having issues. In the last couple weeks the display started jumping all over the place made it real hard to actually select the town I wanted.


Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 13:15
Yeah, no scrolling anymore Clap.

I don't know if that's possible, but three lines of text containing all the Info, then a gap, then next town...  would offer FAR more overview than those pictures...

Don't get me wrong, those pictures are awsome, but please leave them out of the scrollbar Wink


Posted By: nightfury
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 13:43
Nice, simple but effective. 

Would like to see town pop and location there. that's the missing part


Posted By: Bard
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 13:58
Could you please include the population on it?   Plus the writing is very small (I know people can adjust resolution) for anyone with vision problems.  Could you set the default type face a couple of sizes larger please?

Other than that, it's fine.  I had no issues in my previous interface, but if this is the one we have to have, bigger and a pop number pls :)



Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 14:01
Loads better than the previous drop down box. No more scrolling through the pictures to locate a city. Please please keep it this way.


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 14:02
"Name (pop[, Capital]) x|y" would be ideal for most.

With that, the non-enhanced version would be far preferable anyway.


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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 14:34
The new drop down makes playing on an iPad much easier, too!


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 14:38
And I don't think the font size is too small either (like someone mentioned) - it's the same as the font for the resource overview which we've never had problems with.

As it is, it's neat, concise and most importantly makes switching between cities fast. Agree that listing pop alongside the city name would be good though - at least it's what everyone is used to.


Posted By: Babbens
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 15:09
Yes, please keep it this way. Thumbs Up

Now, if I could get a http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/dashboard-page-vital-info-from-all-cities_topic2426_post37416.html?" rel="nofollow - Dashboard page too, Illy UI would just perfect for me.




Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 15:43
As others are saying, I actually like it the new way. I don't really mind not seeing the population or where the city is in the drop down, as I can just go to my profile for that information and seems kind of useless when selecting a city. 

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Posted By: Silverlake
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 16:47
We need the city population back on the menu, "the Legendary City" information is pretty useless.  The population info is more specific and more useful IMHO.


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 17:13
The font isn't too small, but it should be black, if it isn't already.  (It appears to varying degrees dark brown to me in Chrome, Firefox, and Opera but that could all be sub-optimal sub-pixel hinting).

The only change I'd make other than adding real population count and location in place of population strings, is grouping by region.


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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 20:12
If there is limited space, I'd just put "Name-- Pop # -- Region".

The x,y location imo is a less useful quick reference than the region, but the actual pop # is much more useful than the pop grouping...


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 20:59
@Kumo: html dropdowns support item groups natively, which results in one row per group with additional indented rows per item in that group.  The horizontal space taken would be minimal.  The important thing is that the city ordering and relation is much improved.

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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 02:27
Thanks for fixing the problem.  I agree that having the population listed for the cities is nice, it means I don't have to go to my towns to see current populations.  I don't think it's necessary to tell players which city is their capital on the dropdown.  Do people forget which city is their capital?


Posted By: SunStorm
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 03:56
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Do people forget which city is their capital?
lol - at the end of the tourny I was calling out to the Devs cause I couldn't find my prizes...  (>.<)  I forgot which city was my capitol cause of exodus...

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Posted By: wouterverbraak
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 05:51
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Do people forget which city is their capital?
Always know which city is my capital.  Sometimes Elgea and I agree to disagree.


Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 14:59
I like the new one so much I don't ever want it to go back.

Now all we need is an "Empire Summary" page which lists all units/resources across all towns in one screen.

KP


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Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 15:13
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

I like the new one so much I don't ever want it to go back.

Now all we need is an "Empire Summary" page which lists all units/resources across all towns in one screen.

KP

Agree to both.


Posted By: Mara Zira
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 18:14
I also don't mind losing the graphic, but I'd like to keep some of the old information about the cities. For players who have their cities scattered all over the face of Illyriad (like me), listing what region the city is in makes it easier to quickly find at times. And the actual city population was more useful than "large city," though I don't find this information critical for the city selection drop-down.


Posted By: Cerridwyn
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 01:57
Personally, I like it better. It's more compact and easier to select from :)

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Posted By: Babbens
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 13:02
On a similar side note, I'd also happily get rid of the small icon in the advanced resources pop-up.
It makes lag the pop-up quite a bit; I realize it is my slow connection, still...

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:


Now all we need is an "Empire Summary" page which lists all units/resources across all towns in one screen.


Yes, please. Similar to the http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/dashboard-page-vital-info-from-all-cities_topic2426_post37416.html?" rel="nofollow - Dashboard page .


Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 15:07
Originally posted by GM ThunderCat GM ThunderCat wrote:

We have temporarily disabled the graphical town chooser due to a number of issues players have been experiencing with it. A regular drop-down box now serves this function.
I expect the decision is already made about whether the desirable end-point is to have the detailed drop-box or the (current) simple one; expressing a preference is moot, because the simple one is just a temporary compromise while the detailed one is debugged. I don't think anyone's playing experience has been compromised.

FWIW, I don't mind the new drop-box. It is good for me because I can see it all without moving the eye too much (whereas previously I had to move my eyes a lot), but I slightly miss the (non-essental) population count.

Slightly off-topic, but it was mentioned above:
Originally posted by Babbens Babbens wrote:

Yes, please. Similar to the  http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/dashboard-page-vital-info-from-all-cities_topic2426_post37416.html?" rel="nofollow - Dashboard page .
As much as I'd like a Dashboard page, I don't think it will arrive soon (though I'll be glad if I have to eat my words).

Speculation: Depending how the game originally evolved from single towns to multiple towns, it might need a rewrite of the things that make your resource numbers change on-screen, and it would add substantial load to the servers (and your data usage).


Posted By: Silverlake
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 17:59
Yes, we need the population back in that menu... it was such a great quick reference, meaning... "Oh, I'm going to increase my population today, what city should I focus on?"  Bam, pull down menu will tell ya where to go... NOW, player icon, towns, sort by size, sort again to get the largest first... four clicks versus one, just to get reference information.  Please 


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 18:38
must be nice to have so many towns you can't remember how much population they have ...

imagine this said wistfully
 

Wink


Posted By: LordBliss
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 20:28
i am in the "likes the new drop down much better than the old" camp.

also the empire resources page would be nice

also a page "all moving units" showing just that, all units moving from all your towns on a single page.

and a pony



Posted By: PonderStibbons
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 21:24
Originally posted by LordBliss LordBliss wrote:

i am in the "likes the new drop down much better than the old" camp.

also the empire resources page would be nice

also a page "all moving units" showing just that, all units moving from all your towns on a single page.

and a pony

Who doesn't want a pony?  Clap
+1 from me about the new dropdrown.  Much faster and easier.


Posted By: JimJams
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 23:38
Love it now, but please put the name and only the name on the first row and other info (including population) on the second row...

thanks


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2012 at 01:26
Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

I like the new one so much I don't ever want it to go back.

Now all we need is an "Empire Summary" page which lists all units/resources across all towns in one screen.

KP

Agree to both.
Me too.


Posted By: scaramouche
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2012 at 18:18
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

I like the new one so much I don't ever want it to go back.

Now all we need is an "Empire Summary" page which lists all units/resources across all towns in one screen.

KP

Agree to both.
Me too.
 
me too...
 
everyone should quote this post...see how long we can get it.


Posted By: Captain Ganoes Paran
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2012 at 22:07
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

I like the new one so much I don't ever want it to go back.

Now all we need is an "Empire Summary" page which lists all units/resources across all towns in one screen.

KP

Agree to both.
Me too.
 
me too...
 
everyone should quote this post...see how long we can get it.
ok i'm in Tongue


Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2012 at 22:54
Originally posted by Captain Ganoes Paran Captain Ganoes Paran wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

I like the new one so much I don't ever want it to go back.

Now all we need is an "Empire Summary" page which lists all units/resources across all towns in one screen.

KP

Agree to both.
Me too.
 
me too...
 
everyone should quote this post...see how long we can get it.
ok i'm in Tongue
Agree completely to this.  


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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2012 at 23:00
Originally posted by Silent/Steadfast Silent/Steadfast wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Ganoes Paran Captain Ganoes Paran wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

I like the new one so much I don't ever want it to go back.

Now all we need is an "Empire Summary" page which lists all units/resources across all towns in one screen.

KP

Agree to both.
Me too.
 
me too...
 
everyone should quote this post...see how long we can get it.
ok i'm in Tongue
Agree completely to this.  
This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it.


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Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2012 at 23:31
HM - little Anarchist at heart

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Posted By: Albatross
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2012 at 23:42
Hm has spoken - let's forget the whole thing.
It could only mean that he's nearly finished writing a plug-in that does it ;o)


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 03:05
Matryoshka script, coming soon.  As in, yo dawg, I herd you like code...

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Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 06:47
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

Matryoshka script, coming soon.  As in, yo dawg, I herd you like code...


Ima let you finish but....


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Posted By: Gimli Son of Groin
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2012 at 14:37
What kind of issues? :P

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