confused about tavern
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Topic: confused about tavern
Posted By: Innoble
Subject: confused about tavern
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 13:26
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I am a dedicated quester. I have some towns with a maxed tavern and some with a lower level tavern
I have noticed that I always get the new level 1 quests in my town with the lowest level tavern first. Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? Why does my small town with lower level tavern get quests faster? Is this a bug? Does the tavern (as a bug) increase the time it takes to get new quests? Or am I missing something?
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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 13:41
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I don't know. I notice there are two functions listed in the tavern:
Upgrading the tavern increases the amount of time you have to complete a quest by 1% per level as well as increasing the speed at which new quests are offered to you by 1% per level.
It occurs to me that having more time to complete a quest could translate into more time until the next quest appears, but this doesn't seem to be the intended function.
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Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 14:00
hmmm.... quests...
T3 quests? ^^
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Posted By: Innoble
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2011 at 14:31
Rill wrote:
I don't know. I notice there are two functions listed in the tavern:
Upgrading the tavern increases the amount of time you have to complete a quest by 1% per level as well as increasing the speed at which new quests are offered to you by 1% per level.
It occurs to me that having more time to complete a quest could translate into more time until the next quest appears, but this doesn't seem to be the intended function. |
The "time to complete" part should have no effect if both towns say "completed". I complete the level 1 quests in my small town with lvl 8 tavern and in my big town with level 20 tavern at exactly the same time (well... within 10 seconds) and my small town will have new quests about 20 mins to half an hour sooner.
I think the description:" ...as well as increasing the speed at which new quests are offered to you by 1% per level." translates to the actual effect: "increase the TIME at which new quests are offered to you". That is clearly a bug. Unless someone can tell me otherwise? I will post it in the tech support section as a bug if noone can explain why this happens.
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Posted By: Lanmate
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2011 at 21:50
Innoble wrote:
Rill wrote:
I don't know. I notice there are two functions listed in the tavern:
Upgrading the tavern increases the amount of time you have to complete a quest by 1% per level as well as increasing the speed at which new quests are offered to you by 1% per level.
It occurs to me that having more time to complete a quest could translate into more time until the next quest appears, but this doesn't seem to be the intended function. |
The "time to complete" part should have no effect if both towns say "completed". I complete the level 1 quests in my small town with lvl 8 tavern and in my big town with level 20 tavern at exactly the same time (well... within 10 seconds) and my small town will have new quests about 20 mins to half an hour sooner.
I think the description:" ...as well as increasing the speed at which new quests are offered to you by 1% per level." translates to the actual effect: "increase the TIME at which new quests are offered to you". That is clearly a bug. Unless someone can tell me otherwise? I will post it in the tech support section as a bug if noone can explain why this happens. |
I read "increasing the speed" as "DECREASING the time" at which new quests are offered to you.
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Posted By: Innoble
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2011 at 05:12
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of course, that is how it should be, but I am not sure if it is working that way Lanmate.
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Posted By: Cheers2012
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2011 at 13:39
I complete the level 1 quests in my small town with lvl 8 tavern and in
my big town with level 20 tavern at exactly the same time (well...
within 10 seconds) and my small town will have new quests about 20 mins
to half an hour sooner.
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Posted By: Innoble
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 14:27
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I'm still confused. I petitioned this bug two weeks ago. In my opinion it is a very large bug.
The total failure of a building that is important for everyone who quests. Why is this not getting more attention? Don't people care their quests come 20% slower instead of 20% faster with a lvl 20 tavern?
I am now totally certain this is the case. I watched my quest timers for weeks. The lower the tavern, the quicker new quests come...
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Posted By: Innoble
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 14:38
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Not to mention that, from a programmers perspective, this is a super easy to fix bug! It won't require more than 5 mins.
Just some line somewhere that says 1 + (tavernlevel/20) has to be 1 - (tavernlevel/20)
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Posted By: jamieh
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 14:40
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I seem to recall a very long time ago, well back in V1, that there was a bug fix that made quests generate quicker for those with a higher lvl tavern rather than take longer as was the case before. It seems, by what you're saying, that this bug has reappeared.
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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 21:58
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Honestly I don't think most people care how fast their quests appear. Also, very few people build their tavern over level 2 for any reason other than to boost their population.
I'm not saying that this bug shouldn't be fixed, just addressing the question about why there isn't more outrage over the issue. Many established players don't do quests at all, and those that do probably don't care whether they do 3 quests a day or 4.
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Posted By: Innoble
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2012 at 22:34
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You might be right about that. I think mostly people just don't realize it though. Sometimes people spend days, weeks, or months competing with the guys around them in the rankings. I think those would care, especially if they made an effort to level their taverns. There may be a lot more pressing issues to solve, but this one is quite easy to fix
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Posted By: Bard
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2012 at 17:59
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It's because you are a min/maxer Inno, and in Illyriad most people aren't (at least not about quests). I applaud you for it though, you always get every last bit of what you're supposed to get from the game, and this is a bug that should be fixed, I agree.
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Posted By: fronfor
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2013 at 06:33
I'm sorry for the necro, guys, but I think I can solve Innoble's confusion.
Innoble wrote:
The "time to complete" part should have no effect if both towns say "completed". I complete the level 1 quests in my small town with lvl 8 tavern and in my big town with level 20 tavern at exactly the same time (well... within 10 seconds) and my small town will have new quests about 20 mins to half an hour sooner. |
To my understanding, the "rate at which new quests are offered" refers to how often your quests refresh. Instead of looking at what time you completed the quests, Innoble, you should be looking at what time the quests were first offered to each town. I think your smaller town was given the quest much earlier than your larger town, so it refreshed first.
Does this help?
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Posted By: Angrim
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2013 at 14:11
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sadly, Innoble is long gone from the game.
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Posted By: Arctic55
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2013 at 15:41
Innoble wrote:
I'm still confused. I petitioned this bug two weeks ago. In my opinion it is a very large bug.
The total failure of a building that is important for everyone who quests. Why is this not getting more attention? Don't people care their quests come 20% slower instead of 20% faster with a lvl 20 tavern?
I am now totally certain this is the case. I watched my quest timers for weeks. The lower the tavern, the quicker new quests come...
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This also very concerns me. I have a new town with a lv 8 tavern and and the rest of my 9 towns have lv 20 taverns and they seem to all get refreshed at the same time no matter what the level. If I complete my quests in my 1st town (lv 20 tavern) and my 9th town (lv 8 tavern) and they finish about the same time, the quests are refreshed at about the same time.
I believe this is a huge bug and needs to be addressed asap. As a programmer myself, I don't think this would be hard to fix. But sadly, I think the devs are off working on something else and won't be bothered with our complaining about bugs atm, I mean face it, how many bugs do we complain about and how many have the devs fixed recently? They are all tied up in their new project.
But lets complain all the same so that when they are done, maybe they will squash some of them dumb bugs.
P.S. I put in a Petition about this already.
------------- I'm pressed but not crushed. Persecuted but not abandoned. Struck down but not destroyed.
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Posted By: fronfor
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2013 at 17:56
Arctic55 wrote:
If I complete my quests ... and they finish about the same time, the quests are refreshed at about the same time.
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I know I said this earlier, but again, I don't believe the quests' completion time matters. I think it has to do with when the quest was first offered.
Has anyone tried thinking about it that way?
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