Welcome to Elgea (New Server)
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Topic: Welcome to Elgea (New Server)
Posted By: GM ThunderCat
Subject: Welcome to Elgea (New Server)
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 01:25
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** Server migration complete. http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk" rel="nofollow - elgea.illyriad.co.uk is up and running ***
As many of you have experienced, the current Illyriad server uk1 is beginning to run into some slowness issues, which are visible in the forms of chat lag, login slowness, queuing things up (and completing them) suffering from delays, occasional weird popup errors and general sluggishness on the interface. This lag is a factor of a substantial growth in the number of new players joining the game and staying with it - so this is a good cause for a bad symptom! These slowness issues are not related to the total number of players in the game but, instead, are caused by the larger numbers of concurrent users (people using the same interface at the same time) - especially true of those using global chat, which is unexpectedly more data intensive than is practical for sustaining continued levels of concurrent-player growth. Whilst we have a plan to optimise chat (and hive it off to the cloud) as part of the private chat/player-run chatrooms future expansion, we do need to ensure, right now, that the current server can continue its growth without manifesting or deepening some of the lag issues we currently experience. So, in the short-term, we're throwing some hardware at it.
That's about it for the moment - questions welcome. |
) the current uk1 server hardware is 3 years old, dual-quad core (8 worker threads), 8GB Ram box with not very fast hard disc drives - which isn't actually much better specced than some of today's home PCs.Replies:
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 01:41
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What is the etymology of "Elgea", out of curiosity, or did you just succumb to the temptation of using names that sound cool? ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 09:01
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uk1 is that small?! cant believe such an awesome world map runs on it! For the new super fast server!
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Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 11:01
I think it may be related to the term "Pangaea" - the name of the mass of land that was earth before the continents began to drift apart into their current position. Thats my guess anyway. |
Silent/Steadfast wrote:Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 15:31
It does have a pretty concrete etymology, as it happens...! Continents are feminine, by tradition, so get the -a ending. The word "Elgea" itself is a contraction of Elgin-ea. "Elgin" (or Eljinn, as the "g" and "j" sounds are interchangable) is a Proto-Indo-European (PIE) derived word that, being PIE, found it's way into many languages with subtly different meanings coming from the triconsonental root stem g-n-n. The g-n-n stem essentially means "that which is hidden". Dozens of words flow from this g-n-n PIE stem, such as:
So, basically, we love word roots that have many interpretations, be they madness or genius, wayward spirits or gardens of paradise, as they allow players to interpret their meaning as their cultural, eytmological reference-points would suggest. We felt the "walled garden" was especially apt, given the artificial North, West and East barriers surrounding the continent at the map's extremes. So... more information than you wanted?  Best, SC
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Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 16:00
| You certainly do your homework! Bravo sir! |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 21:25
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Actually, just the right amount, thanks! I love to see GMs that pick a name based on actual etymological significance, it makes the game so much more in depth. Also, I'm sadly devoid of any knowledge in the subject, which makes it all the more fascinating. ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: beauhindman
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 22:12
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Stormcrow is a WORD NERD! Get 'em!! WORD NERD! hehe :) Beau
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Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 23:44
Why, thank you!
Alas, and with a verisimilitude of torpid dolor, you postulate a verdical moira SC
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Posted By: Lashka
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2011 at 23:58
| I knew a lass named Vertical Moira once... ;) |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 00:40
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Hmmm. Methinks SC's explanation doth explain too much... After some sleuthing, I came up with, what I think, was the origin of the name... We all know that SC is a history buff. So... "El" was a very old Canaanite word for a god, commonly represented by bulls. Now what are bulls well known for? and Gea... well it took me a while, but I think I pegged it! Perhaps Mr. SC was feeling proverbially "bullish" about Gea (I mean, cmon, she won America's first ever Ms. National Fitness Championship in 1986!): http://www.geajohnson.com/spokesperson.asp (or maybe I'm wrong... has been known to happen on rare occasions...) ;) |
Posted By: Mandarins31
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 00:49
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Can't wait to see the result! Just be aware that one day, if Illyriad is again getting too crowd, instead of making new continents, just allow people to have a subaquatical life :)
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Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 04:34
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*burp* I enjoy ingesting brandnewness in all its various guises. |
Posted By: Tinuviel's Voice
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 08:30
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Pangea: Pan (entire, whole, everything) + Gaia (Earth, land) So Pan-gea=One Earth/Land Elgea: El (hELios, the Sun) + Gaia (Earth, land) So El-gea=Earth/Land of the Sun Hope it helps! |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 16:01
 uhmm....I have an idea....Why not have GMLuna pose another exciting community initiative by opening a thread calling on the community to suggest a suitable name for the server taking into account ; 1. meaning of the name; 2. It relevance to The Illyriad Codex The GM's can decide on and announce the winner and then present a prize |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 17:08
| Ummm, because it already has a name? |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 17:50
Since it is early days and this is a major development in the course of the game I was just suggesting that it might be an idea to throw it out to the community as a demonstration of inclusion. The dev team are always on the look out for the innovative involvement of players in all aspects of development. I thought that this might be an ideal opportunity to bring us all closer together for the greater good. ( supposing someone came up with the suggestion of Kumotonia - I bet that would make you change your mind )
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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 17:52
| Well... changing it to Kumotonia would be kind of catchy ;), but I suspect that if they are doing a production environment migration tonight, in my experience, they probably have been prepping for weeks and have a ton of stuff already set up with this name... but maybe not? |
Posted By: GM Luna
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 18:03
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Renaming Elgea is probably not something that will happen right now. But having players involved in naming something in the future could be a lot of fun. Great idea! Luna ------------- GM Luna | Illyriad Community Manager | community@illyriad.co.uk 
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Posted By: shadow
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 19:19
AWSOME! 
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Posted By: Auraya
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 21:33
| If/when new continents arrive, will all players have to start from scratch if they wanted to play or will there be an option to move current cities over? Or will it depends upon the amount of players on our current continent, Elgea? |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 22:01
No we will all be moved with existing data which means that we will not be starting from scratch. I should add that there are no new continents planned for this move. It is just a move of existing data to bigger,faster server.
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Posted By: Auraya
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 22:35
| Yes, I realise that Calen.. when new continents arrive, if we want to play on them I would like to know if I will have to start a new account or if I will be able to transfer my current cities. Some games allow existing players to transfer to new servers if one is overcrowded. Others do not. |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2011 at 22:58
| New continents are still in that nebulous timeframe known as "soon(tm)" or possibly "someday." I doubt there are answers to this sort of question until there are firm plans for a launch. |
Posted By: Klandor
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 00:12
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Actually, I think it will happen slightly differently. If a new continent opens up, new players will be placed there. At some point in time, maybe with the opening, maybe a little before, existing players may be able to research a new skill, something like Long Distance Sea Navigation... Then existing players can send ships across the open ocean to the new continent, where they can found new cities somewhere near the shore that they land on. From there, they can spread out as they wish. While they will have the advantage of an existing base to supply the new cities, the disadvantage would be the TIME that it takes to get Res from the old city(ies) to the new cities, the number of ocean-going ships and how much each ship can carry, and the risk of loss when travelling trans-oceanic. I suspect they will not have a much better time than someone who starts there in the first place. Klandor
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Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 00:45
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would be cool... yea, the new spawn zone shall be separated trough the sea! and sea shall be made impassable terrain ! whit maybe just the relocating spell being able to cross it! yea! this would rock my socks... no more newbie feeding, and a separate continental chat to not hear their complaints and such ... i boy... it would be like a new day full of opportunity -------------  my words on this forum are from me alone. DLords official words only come from HighKing Belargyle |
Posted By: Julius Cofen
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 01:03
Would be especially interesting if such ships were player-owned, *very* expensive to build, and there was some mechanism for auctioning voyages. And as to risk of loss, a privateer diplo unit would be an interesting addition. |
Posted By: Rymal
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 03:15
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The server upgrade sounds fabulous, and I'm so impressed with the background on "
Elgea". I hope that we can interact with the new continents to come ... for most at great distance. The borderland issues could provide great opportunities for a unique game experience. Perhaps the first new continent can be at great distance with an uncharted wilderness in between ??? I feel discombobulated at not being able to log into Illy on a Sunday nite EST. It is somewhat ameliorated by the fact that I have learned I can order an Illyriad T-Shirt. I think it would be fascinating to go on vacation, wearing the T-Shirt, and meet other Illy people world-wide. Can't log in -- guess I have to go to bed ... |
Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 03:37
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As one who takes a long time to pick city names (Hebrew, Greek :) I am impressed at the linguistical genius of SC and the dev. team on coming to Elgea. The technical savvy of moving everythiing to a new server without missing a beat is a bit impressive too methinks. |
Posted By: liberty6
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 03:42
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ILLY RULES AND SO DO THE GMS now seriously UK1 was only on a 6 or so gigabyte RAM with dual quad cores my computer at home which ironically is also 3 years old is just a little better with tri quads with 10 GB ram (but thats because i over do it). I seriously have to applaud you guys for fitting UK1 on what you had because i doubt i could have done it. well i know i couldn't because i don't program i fix other peoples computers. GOOD JOB AGAIN------------- whats happened to the world? if intelegent life came to earth is RL would they consider us intelligent or not? probably not!!!! |
Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 05:40
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just imagine that SC an TC messed up and all data of old illy would be.... lost... hehehehe... ------------- my words on this forum are from me alone. DLords official words only come from HighKing Belargyle |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 05:58
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That is SO not funny! OK, maybe a little funny ... but don't jinx them!
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Posted By: Kidrock
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 06:42
| Hey folks... when is the server coming up ?? is there a delay ?? |
Posted By: OTazMan
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 07:03
| Where is the new server in the US located? i.e. what state? |
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 07:16
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*** Server migration completed. http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk" rel="nofollow - elgea.illyriad.co.uk is up and running *** Bug reports (server specific please, not just repeats of old bugs from uk1!) via petition please... Best, SC
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Posted By: Thexion
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 07:51
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uh there seems to be some sort of difficulty.. HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable' e.
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Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 07:52
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haha yea, wanna bet it's gonna happen on a daily base every 25 minutes?
------------- my words on this forum are from me alone. DLords official words only come from HighKing Belargyle |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 07:58
| Seems to be better now, try again. Probably just popping the new-server bubblewrap. |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 10:25
Sorry if I appeared patronising earlier Auraya. By now I think we all know, (provided on whether we can log in) what Elgea provides initially. I think the GM's ruminations on whether addtional continents will be provided and if so whether existing players will be able to settle, transport cities or move via Exodus will remain secret to all but a select few un til the last moment. Even so, I agree with you that there should be community input, so it is worth setting up a seperate thread for community opinion, discussion and queries on the matter. |
Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 14:01
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Am I the only one who sees Algae everyone time they see the name of this server? >.> -------------  |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 14:11
Not any more. Geez thx Brids. ------------- "ouch...best of luck." HonoredMule |
Posted By: razbhaat
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 20:51
| Since the change, I haven't been able to log in. Everytime I try, either from FaceBook, or directly from my browser, I just get bounced back to the Illyriad FB page. I also see some posts there from others who are having the same problem, |
Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2011 at 22:45
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may USA servers have hidden restrictions? would suck hu?
------------- my words on this forum are from me alone. DLords official words only come from HighKing Belargyle |
Posted By: GM ThunderCat
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 04:42
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All login and sitter issues should now be resolved - you will have to log out and log back in to pick-up the changes.
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Posted By: nofxmike
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2011 at 17:38
Umm. No...still issues, as in it doesn't even try. |