Persona Armoniosa is Recruiting
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Topic: Persona Armoniosa is Recruiting
Posted By: Darkwords
Subject: Persona Armoniosa is Recruiting
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 00:48
| When an alliance leader gives up on the game without electing a new leader, shouldn't the alliance members look elsewhere? |
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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 00:49
| Are you questioning artorious's qualifications as a leader, Darkwords? He seems like a capable player to me. |
Posted By: Gratch
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 01:25
| If that's the case, why are there so many alliances which were created by one member who left still continuing? :P I don't get that reasoning at all. That's like saying "Hey the Queen is dead, let's all move to France..." O.o |
Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 02:32
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If in fact Lorre has left the game.... Then why is he still the leader of the alliance? This makes me think he is not leaving the game and perhaps is only taking a break for a bit. However, if he has in fact left the game for good, there is no reason to be in alliance when a player that has left the game is still the leader. An alliance needs that position to be active to do diplomacy and control member options. So Dark was right, if he has in fact left the game, why not create a new alliance with the same players so you can use the leader position for use... Or better yet, contact Lorre so he can promote someone. |
Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 02:43
Agree with Gratch in that just because a leader of a founder leaves there is no need to all up sticks and join or become a new alliance. Sometimes the departure of a leader can make an alliance even stronger than it was before. Just one point though Gratch.... Were you calling Lorre a Queen?  Apologies for the off subject observation. On a serious note and if you are new to Illyriad and looking looking through the recruitment forum at the moment for an alliance {PA} is a great place to start, with good leaders who are very helpful with advice and resources. ------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either! "Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
Gratch wrote:Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 02:48
However, Lorre is still the leader of that alliance, which makes being in that alliance pointless if he is no longer playing and still in control of the alliance as the leader (afk). I do think it is fine to continue an alliance when a leader has left only if the leader has left the alliance or promoted someone to take his or her place. None of these have happen yet, so either wait a month to see if he comes back or find a new alliance. |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 03:57
| The term schadenfreude comes to mind ... whatever Lorre has going on, I imagine that his alliance mates have made a decision to continue in his footsteps. To their credit. |
Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 05:07
To their credit? An active member needs to be in the leader role! Any member that stays in this alliance will be making a very stupid choice if Lorre is not coming back. It is pretty selfish of Lorre to not promote any player to his leader role or leave the alliance if he is indeed not coming back. When leeroy680 was the leader of Wolves of the Plains (now called Curse), he decided to quit the game. And when he did leave, he promoted Iduna to take over as the leader role instead of just leaving his account AFK as the leader. I am pretty sure all the players would have left the alliance if leeroy680 would have kept himself as the AFK leader over a period of time. I would have. The members in Lorre's alliance seem loyal enough to give him back the leader role if he ever decides to come back. |
Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 05:25
may you tell us your ingame name? |
Posted By: Gratch
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 09:50
...Maybe >.>
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Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 11:54
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As DR pointed out, my point is that there is no new leader. Does anyone in PA have full control over the alliance forums? have the ability to boot problem players? promote promising members? etc etc..... If it is true that Lorre has left the game, as they have claimed. It would be better for the active members of this alliance to reform under a new banner, one they have full control of. |
Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 12:05
| I'm sure the PA members find your concern touching. Perhaps we should give them the respect of letting them choose what to do. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 12:19
I am not saying they should not CHOOSE themselves, merely questioning their CHOICE. Am simply offering advice as my alliance was actually formed as a group of players left an alliance, where the leader had lost motivation and only logged on once a fortnight or so. Lets put it this way, they are out to recruit new members, hence the existance of this thread, but if you were looking for an alliance to join, would you choose one where the leader had gone AWOL? |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 13:45
I suppose your point is more valid then say starting a war over PA memberships choice to continue on forcing the issue like another alliance did...(~KT~ vs. Havoc) But, then the members of PA will also probably look for "Darkwords" in the game and find that there is no such player. Further, if one reviews the posts from "Darkwords" it will further show that there has been nothing but negativivity vs. anything regarding PA. So, then the question is more why should any members of PA care about the opinion of this anonymous poser.
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Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:08
If they haven't figured out who I am by now then I feel even more sorry for them. And if you really reveiwed my posts you would know who I am. Its true that there is little friendship between myself and PA, but I am honestly just stating the obvious at this point. Unless they do have full control over their alliance workings, in which case they should decide on a new leader and promote him/her to that position (unless of course, the claims of Lorre leaving are false). Then their alliance will have little appeal to new members. If they dont have full control, then it would be far better for them to found a new alliance, where they would have the control. Anyone arguing that they should remain in an alliance that they do not have control over, is doing them a huge dis-service and they should consider what the motives behind such advice really are. |
Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:10
Anyone that is for members sticking with an alliance that will not have one member in control of all the leadership options is really kidding themselves. Lorre left the game, make a new alliance with a similar name and renap and confed all of those alliances again. Rill normally gives good advice for new players or members in general. However, I think she is more into propaganda right now. For whatever reason, she seems to care more about Lorre losing members while he is afk then the actual members themselves that will depend on a member that has that leadership option. Who knows? Maybe there is a capable replacement of Lorre or maybe not... Rill and the rest of the H? propaganda machine is just blowing white smoke up everyones ***. I am not looking out for Lorre at all since he has left the game. I am looking for the best interest of said members in his alliance at heart here. No propaganda, just common sense. |
Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:16
It really seems that Lorre's claims are false. Otherwise the members would be leaving. They must know he is coming back and this whole him leaving fiasco is just an act to make players forget about him for a bit. |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:17
And I am sure you have approached some of them in game to ascertain why they remain in PA rather than come here and publicly dis on them some more... The advice being given by the others to remain or to leave, it is in fact no advice at all. What is being offered is that those of us that are truly concerned with the membership of PA and have shown such concern with our actions in game, respect their decision to remain and grow their alliance while they sort their internal issues out. |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:19
And I am sure you have approached some of them in game to ascertain why they remain in PA rather than come here and publicly dis on them some more... The advice being given by the others to remain or to leave, it is in fact no advice at all. What is being offered is that those of us that are truly concerned with the membership of PA and have shown such concern with our actions in game, respect their decision to remain and grow their alliance while they sort their internal issues out. |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:29
I have nothing against people wanting to keep their in-game identity secret. But then stop doing this kind of bragging - that you feel sorry for people who don't know your true identity or that it is worthwhile to review your posts to find out who you are.
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Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:34
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so concerned you support them remaining in an alliance without control.... lol or is there something you and PA are not telling us??? The fact that they could all on mass move to a new alliance which they would have full control over, makes the choice to remain look either very stupid, or very suspicious. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:50
Its not bragging Ander, honestly. There is a post where someone addresses me dirrectly by the name of one of my accounts and I answer dirrectly, the only reason I am not putting my name on here in dirrect answer now and have not for sometime, is because I personnaly find it funny that so many people do not know it and seem to take offence at the fact I had a very small ammount of imagination when I registered on the forums (clearly unlike them). Whilst so many others do. Also you may want to consider the fact that most of the people on here have 2 accounts, and a few have registered on the forums under their secondaries, so really it does not matter whether you use your ingame name or not. If it did matter, then why is it an option when registering on the forum after all? |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:51
Lorre has been gone less then a week. I will once again ask... Have you approached any of the members personally to get an understanding why they are staying in PA? I see nothing stupid or suspicious with regards to giving the current members and leadership time to resolve their internal issues over a course suggesting to flee like rats from a sinking ship. In fact, I find the course of action on you are suggesting premature and the more suspicious.
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Posted By: Azreil
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:54
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PA will never be the same without Lorre. Lorre was a great leader but i would like to make it known that he led a campaign of hate and bad propaganda against the Valar. With Lorre gone, and I hope FOREVER, i am personally looking forward to more harmonious relationships with PA or whatever its members decide it will or has to become and I will wish the new leadership success in its endeavours. If Lorre comes back, then sad to say, nothing will have changed. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:57
Yes I have contacted some of them, but they dont like me so wont respond. That is why I am questioning their choice here. What I am suggesting is hardly fleeing, its merely a name change when it comes down to it. And they could even keep a very similar name. I merely can not understand why they would not set up a new alliance and all migrate to that one? That is if what has been claimed about Lorre is really true. |
Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 14:58
I know who you are btw, but will not say. |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:02
So, if you are not getting any response from leadership/membership of an alliance - you are okay going fully public to get your question/concern addressed?
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Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:04
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Why hide your identity, what's clever about that? IMO the people that don't want their ingame account linked with their forum posts are usually the trolls. |
Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:08
I am pretty sure you know the answer to that question. And I am pretty sure Darkwords will not give out his identity over this troll analogy. Unless he wants to prove me wrong right now to be funny. LOL |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:09
As I said it is NOT hidden. It does not take much brainpower to work it out anyway. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:13
Yes I am, why are you suggesting that is wrong in someway??? I guess your alliance have never gone on GC or the forums demanding answers that have not been given??? I am not demanding, merely questioning something fairly simple, and stating obvious facts. Is there some reason that you have such a problem with this? |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:15
Its tempting  I am .... d..... no cant do it  |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:24
Not at all - Just tying in these two posts though with one word...Berberos. Lorre approached your leadership to get answers about what was going on with Berberos and the future intentions. He was ignored and therefore went public to get answers: which from your above answer you agree would be the next step/stage when your IGM's go unanswered. |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:29
nobody would bother about your in game identity while you are posting in a non political topic. But the opinion of anonymous posters in a political discussion is just as good as spam. (unless you are making such brilliant posts of course, which sadly is not the case) |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:30
Thats true and we had no problem with his going public asking for answers, unfortunately AZ had issues in RL that meant he was not online at that time. Hence not only Lorre not getting responses but no-one did. |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:35
^^ that reminds me of a sighting of A.. and d.. from V.. in GC, where d.. was accusing L.. of being a coward for ..<I never understood this part>
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Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:36
And as I have said over and over it is NOT anonymous, or hidden. In fact it is extremely obvious. Mainly due to the fact it was never meant to be hidden. Besides if I was posting on here in character for my primary, then I would not be presenting what I consider would be the best actions for the PA members, as I have done. I really dont get what all this fuss is about anyway? Perhaps Art or another PA member will be nice enough to address the matter and put it to rest. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:38
Congrats ander!!!  |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 15:52
Lorre, has always been an advocate for the new player. He instituted the care packages for new players. Anyone who played for even a little while, would see Lorre in GC actively helping and advising the new players. So, rather than understanding Lorre's passion and frustration in trying to help a new player being targeted by one of your members. VALAR responded with animosity toward Lorre. The climate of hate and propaganda that Azriel claim's Lorre perpetrated against VALAR was returned tenfold by VALAR against Lorre and PA. And ever so exemplified in the recent conflicts as the battle cry of VALAR seems to be primarily: because Lorre is involved. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 16:07
Anjire, you are way off the mark. That was not the first act of aggression from Lorre against VALAR and we did NOT return what he did to us tenfold. The whole Berberos affair, which in the eyes of the VALAR was actually the 'Duq affair' would have been sorted as soon as AZ had sorted his RL problems out and returned, were it not for Lorre's intervention. You should know this very well yourself considering what you know Duq did and how he was swiftly dealt with as soon as we had faught of Lorre's campain. As we said all along throughout that period, if Lorre backed off it would be resolved, so if Lorre was really makjng a stand for a newbe, then why did he make the resolution of the matter impossible? He was not even willing to lay off for 1 day, to see if we would resolve the case. Lorre had previously tried to vilify the VALAR over other matters, and had even contacted us previously in an attempt to get us to war with H. When he attacked Duq, he stated he had grown tired of the game and was ready to leave, I beleive that he was merely looking for a blaze of glory, one which the VALAR were not willing to give him. Hence us not attacking him dirrectly. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 16:14
| And as for people carrying over aggression, I seem to remember a certain H player joining in on the Curse / Roller affair early on. |
Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 16:47
I've no idea what the curse/roller thing is so I wouldn't know about that lol
Of course I know who you are ingame. I wasn't commenting on you specifically - I was just making the point that I disagree that people using the same name on the forum as ingame is 'unimaginative' and infact quite the reverse. Some of the least imaginative and most illiterate trolls I've come across all tend to hide their in-game identity - unsurprisingly. I personally think that people automatically take posters a little less seriously when they don't know who they are ingame as a knee jerk reaction. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 16:56
True and glad that at least you were not confused by my forum name being the 'voice' of my in game name. |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:02
I am not sure how Lorre's intervention slowed the issue. It took the coordination of several top alliances to clear out any sieges, surround Berberos' city with troops to prevent a siege from setting up, and further send supporting troops to fortify Berberos' city. This intervention took over a week to set up before attacks from _duQ ended for a time being. That, I would hope is more than enough time to resolve an issue or at least make a public statement regarding it - and yet it didn't happen, did it? The "_duQ Affair" as you put it, was only dealt with due to extraneous actions instigated by _duQ completely unrelated to Berberos. VALAR took no action on behalf of Berberos and further failed to clean up their "_duQ" affair leaving him to the community to deal with. And, yes I was intimately involved in the initial defense of Lorre/ PA vs. the unprovoked aggression of Zork/Bork/Infestion/Spirit/Roller et al. Once Lorre and PA's cities were safe, and renewed attacks were not forth coming for several days, my forces were recalled and my involvement was just to keep up to date as to the happenings. Further, my involvement was not because I "dislike Zork/Borg/Infestion/Spirit/Roller et al" (although, after their GC displays and reading their responses to some prominent community members, I can honestly say that I dislike them now) it was to help a friend, unlike VALAR's current involvement which is simply "because we dislike Lorre." |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:22
Because he decided to take a dirrect attack against a VALAR member and claim that the VALAR 'must' do what he demanded. As we made clear at the time, we were ready to take action in regard to duq but on our own grounds, not down to the demands of some drama queen [/QUOTE]
No because Lorre would not back off from his aggresion toward the VALAR along with his warmongering for other alliances to join him against us, and as we stated at the time we were ready to take action on our grounds, not under some pathetic threat from Lorre. [/QUOTE]
The the duq affair was dealt with because we finally faught off Lorre and his allies, at that point when duq realised he could not instigate an alliance war with PA he turned his attention to you, however the decision to kick him had already been made, we were merely waiting for Lorre's aggression to end so that we did not look like we were backing down to Lorre. This matter was clearly defined by the VALAR at the time, the whole senario would have been avoided if Lorre had not intervened. [/QUOTE]
Since when is attacking someone who has joined in a war against you 'unprovoked'??? [/QUOTE]
And for good reason. However I am not sure what any of this has to do with the fact about PA being leaderless and what they should do about that issue. Infact I have no clue why you brought up the duq/berberos matter. Hopefully a PA representative can address the concerns over this soon. |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:30
But are you hinting that berberos would have been safe even if Lorre or Createure had not helped him? That Valar would have stopped the siege on Berberos even if no one from the community had intervened? |
Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:33
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Since I seem to know roller/spirit better than most of the players in this game... I would like to know why Valar decided to even back him and his friends up? We all know it is because you dislike Lorre... That is the only reason why you were even involved in this matter. Do you actually think that roller/spirit and his friends are loyal to you right now? They do what they need to right now to get by... I know all about roller/spirits temper and how often he sat for his friends. Roller was/is a very active player and his friends were not at all. I am pretty sure roller spent more time on their toons then they did themselves. I guarantee that the skull and bones players will rejoin again and take out their enemies. This is their pattern and I know this will happen. Lorre was just taking action on them. This game does not need multi-account abusers in this game. Roller/spirit was the only reason why I left Curse. He is the biggest reason why my cities got sieged and destroyed. Your fellow member, Victor, tried to help me. And for whatever dumb reason I wonder why he is helping roller/spirit right now... Victor, like I, and now roller, knows what it feels like to leave Iduna's alliance. Iduna will not let you leave and will try her darn-est to siege a former player out of the game. I am sure Victor told you this since there were plans set to siege Victor out of the game for defending me. I got so tired of roller/spirits temper in the alliance. I did not like how he treated some of the members at all. He acted like a spoiled brat. He would threaten to siege some members over some petty things. Roller was beginning to act a lot like Ottar. All he did was kiss up to Iduna to gain favor over me. Which I might add was brilliant... His temper tantrums would lead to him leaving the alliance. Since he was mad at me, I decided to leave the alliance so he would rejoin. And perhaps on a later date I would rejoin again when he cooled off. I was nice and wanted Roller to rejoin Curse for the good of the alliance I thought at the time. Selfless, yes I was indeed selfless by looking out for his best interest over mine and in the end I got nothing in return. I decided to do my own thing and take a break from his drama. However, in the end, I realized who Iduna really is/was. I know now, I made a mistake in the beginning even joining that alliance. So, roller in a sense did me a favor. I will not forget what he did and nor will I forgive. The same can be said about Iduna and Selissa. Roller, let me ask you this? Don't you feel a little used and abused now after all help you did for Curse and here they are sieging you? All the money spent on prestige to help players grow. How does that saying go? Karma is a *itch! Iduna, let me ask you this? Don't you feel a little ashamed that this is the 2nd of your most loyal players that you are/have sieged out of the game. Two players, Roller and I, that have done more than any other member in your alliance. Does any member in Curse actually think they are void of getting the same thing? I am kind of torn right now... Do I want some of the members of Curse to get sieged or do I want roller and his friends? So here I am a spy now. A player that was taken to school in the politic department. A player that has learned from those episodes. A player that will not make the same mistake again. |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:39
I was wondering why this question hasn't come up yet. Direct it to Az, why he chose to make a derogatory comment about PA's founder in this thread -
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Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:41
I think a PA representative did address the concerns by posting the recruitment thread. I think it suggests that they have decided to go ahead with the current situation and/or are working on resolving it internally. Further, I question your want to have the concern as you see it actually addressed over your glee in jumping on a perceived opportunity to discredit PA and/or Lorre. That is all.... |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:42
As I have said we were ready to kick duq, I was the sitter on his account and found a number of mails in his sent box where he was trying to create anymosity against our alliance as he himself had decided to go down in a blaze of glory and was intending to take the alliance down with him. Berberos was not the only newbe he was bullying and he was doing so to try and bring alliances against us which he succeeded in doing in the case of Lorre. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:49
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I think a PA representative did address the concerns by posting the
recruitment thread. I think it suggests that they have decided to go
ahead with the current situation and/or are working on resolving it
internally. Further, I question your want to
have the concern as you see it actually addressed over your glee in
jumping on a perceived opportunity to discredit PA and/or Lorre. That is all....
[/QUOTE] In what way am I discrediting Lorre or PA here, the only reason we have mentioned Lorre is that YOU brought him up. I am merely asking why PA have A) not elected a new leader... and B) if they are unable to do so, why not reform as a new alliance. I am not out to put them down, just asking legitimate questions, which you for some unknown reason seem to take offence at. If you knew the History of the VALAR and how our alliance came into existance you would realise that what I am proposing is actually good advice in my eyes. We reformed from an alliance and due to the fact that we had a new alliance which only included active players, we grew to a great strength so quickly that it shocked us. |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:03
I keep very high regard for Lorre and thinks very highly of him for defending Berberos. But I appreciate very much that you took time to share your views with me. Please pardon any rudeness from my side.
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Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:09
np ander, but as i pointed out, at the time we let the GC know that if Lorre backed down we would have resolved the matter ourselves. It was his aggression that caused much of the problem, that combined with the fact AZ was away for sometime, so we were not able to sort it before Lorre began his campaign. |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:16
Your first response was not a request for information, nor was it to reform under a new banner: When an alliance leader gives up on the game without electing a new leader, shouldn't the alliance members look elsewhere? Only when others started to express their support in PA did you deem it necessary to clarify. You further seem to be taking the support of PA to preclude the changing of their name, or reforming under a new alliance. "The fact that they could all on mass move to a new alliance which they would have full control over, makes the choice to remain look either very stupid, or very suspicious." To which I responded bringing up Lorre for the first time: Lorre has been gone less then a week. ... I see nothing stupid or suspicious with regards to giving the current members and leadership time to resolve their internal issues over a course suggesting to flee like rats from a sinking ship. In fact, I find the course of action on you are suggesting premature and the more suspicious. ---That is when your Alliance leader posted: PA will never be the same without Lorre. Lorre was a great leader but i would like to make it known that he led a campaign of hate and bad propaganda against the Valar. With Lorre gone, and I hope FOREVER, i am personally looking forward to more harmonious relationships with PA or whatever its members decide it will or has to become and I will wish the new leadership success in its endeavours. If Lorre comes back, then sad to say, nothing will have changed. Which you have failed to recognize the following part: whatever its members decide it will or has to become and I will wish the new leadership success in its endeavours. Finally, I will now return to the Berberos affair to show you that you are every bit as guilty as you have been proclaiming Lorre to have been... Coming to Global for answers because IGM go unanswered and then not giving PA time to resolve their issues. I will also add that my interpretation based on your word choice suggests an attempt to discredit the membership of PA.
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Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:18
Oh how I feel for you DR/LH I really do. One thing though you refer to yourself as a player. I don't see any account ingame so you are not " a player" are you? |
Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:39
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To everyone but artorius. This is a recruitment thread and you are all being disrespectful by flooding it with this no end debate that has gone way off topic. If I was a leader of an alliance trying to gather new members I would be pretty...annoyed by now. Take it to the Caravanserai. PA is a great alliance with helpful competent members, and any new player would be lucky to be part of such a loyal and steadfast alliance. Cheers! ------------- "FYI - if you had any balls you'd be posting under your in-game name." - KP |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 19:15
| I sure wish we could block "players" in the forum like we can in GC. :( |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 20:48
Describes your post wonderfully arry But as the sitter of the Lorre account, would you be kind enough to shed some light on what is happening with PA? At the very least a PA view on why new members should jon their alliance would be good, after all that is what this thread was meant for. |
Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 21:24
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I think you have me confused with someone else.. I'm not in PA nor do i sit for Lorre, you really should sort your information out mate, you're way out of sync with Illyriad. Good work there. Anyway. Aarawn, Dafydd or whatever you like to be called. Good day. ------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 23:26
The Plot Doth Thicken. |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 00:26
Damn it, Eoq was in that war too! ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 00:33
All this talk reminds me of the Three Kingdoms. Valar is apparenyy evil evil therefor Wei. Lorre and PA "and ma or whatever his other alliance tag is" is Shu ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 02:34
I have an account/s in game so yes, that makes me a player. |
Posted By: SunStorm
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 09:37
I cant believe the garbage I am reading in here. You should be ashamed. I have been out of the country for the past three weeks while on a mission trip sponsored by my University - I have to hear about all this in personal in game messages - then when I finally get home to the US and have reliable internet again, I hear about this forum thread. (~_~) what a bunch of crap....
Both Artorious and I have full access. Why else would he attempt to recruit players... My posts have been questioned and proven true in the past. The only thing I have hidden in this image is personal information from the alliance. Click and view the image alone (or download it) to see it's larger (original) size. Both Artorious and I hold this rank.  -------------
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Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 10:35
The only thing this proves is that Lorre came back to give you all superuser access. So, now he can go afk as the leader. I still find it rather dumb having an afk leader. |
Posted By: SunStorm
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 10:46
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I have no more information than you - as I said, I was gone. Though I can tell you this: Both Art and I have had this level of access for the past 2+ month... this is not new. Others have been asking me about what exactly is going on with Lorre - I truly dont know. I have him as a FB friend, and he doesnt seem to be on there much either. Perhaps RL is slightly more demanding
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Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 11:21
that makes you an internet stalker and a coward. reveal yourself. |
Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 11:30
There are many ways to play this game. This is how I choose to play and enjoy it quite well. You may think that if you want, it does not change my stance at all. |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 12:10
Many thanks SS, It is amazing what rubbish will be brought up following just a few simple questions |
Posted By: SunStorm
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 17:58
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Like I said, I was out of the country for the past three weeks and have only had minimal time in game for my daily clicking (if even that). I can see how this forum began and how it has progressed - however, what I don't see is an in game message to myself asking what the future plans for {P A} are. I have heard nothing from Artorious on the matter either. Again, I have little (if any) knowledge concerning most all recent events (at least for the past three weeks) - but it is a well known fact that my main account is one of two in command in {P A} and my alt manages {M A}.... So once more, if people were concerned about the future of the alliances - why do I have to read about it in here. (~_~) -------------
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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 19:17
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Well done SunStorm for demonstrating that PA leadership is alive, healthy and fully in command of their faculties. Not that most of us had any doubts. I personally would love to see Lorre return to the game at some point -- if I were him, I'd be proud of PA's loyalty and good sense.
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Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 13:21
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And just as I expected, Lorre is back online in the game chatting away on global chat as if he never left. Like I have been saying forever, if a leader is really leaving he would have given the main leader role to someone and he did not. [12:41]<Lorre> any newb here? [12:42]<Shadow> me [12:42]<Soulwarrior> Yes, started my first account two days ago [12:42]<zbr> yes Lorre, but don't like living on benefits [12:42]<Darth Darius> 15 days newb [12:43]<Lorre> ok darius and soul i am here on orders [12:43]<Killdain> 2nd day in world and liking it already. [12:43]<Soulwarrior> Kind of slow in the beginning to build all the ressources [12:43]<Lorre> i was send from the past like 50 secs ago to come here and annoy the newbs [12:43]<Lorre>  [12:43]<rothgar wallese> yes, account opened a while ago but just started playing a couple days ago. [12:43]<snerg> im new too guys hi! [12:43]<Darth Darius> NICE!! [12:43]<Killdain> lol! woot! [12:43]<snerg> 2nd day yay [12:43]<lTerryXD> i need food please  [12:43]<Manannan> afternoon sports fans [12:43]<lTerryXD> i have 0 [12:43]<gwrach> 2nd day for me too - waiting for a caravan to come back from a harvesting trip - wish i had 2 caravans [12:44]<BenoGenda> can someone send some resource ? i just stat play game and i'm total noob [12:44]<Chaudhari> Afternoon Manannan. [12:44]<Lorre> hello mana and what game are we commenting on today? [12:44]<Chaudhari> How you doing? [12:44]<snerg> you should make more caravans they rock [12:44]<lTerryXD> i have [12:44]<lTerryXD> xd [12:44]<rothgar wallese> It's good but a little slow to get started, yeah, just sent a couple of caravans off for resources [12:44]<lTerryXD> 2 [12:44]<SassyVixen> beno i sent u some just takes a few hours to get there [12:44]<Darth Darius> How many is the optimal numbers in the caravan to go out and get resources for a newb? [12:44]<Lorre> whatever it is it promises to be a good match and the players look ready [12:44]<Soulwarrior> true caravans help, found out about them on the second day [12:44]<Kilotov> those that attack newbies are brephophagists [12:44]<Zanith> what lvl should the market be as a noob? [12:45]<SassyVixen> 5 and then later 10 [12:45]<Lorre> hey kilotov [12:45]<Soulwarrior> by the way playing on an ipad and the interface works there quite nicely, well done [12:45]<Zanith> would most buildings be best at 5 except the storage? [12:45]<Darth Darius> thanks Sassy [12:45]<SassyVixen> np [12:46]<Lorre> hey sassy are you a newb? [12:46]<Killdain> hmm i tried on my tablet and couldn't get site to come up [12:46]<Manannan> todays game is the illy rogues league lorre. i believe KT are playing today, or ICON or whatever they call themselves [12:46]<SassyVixen> yeah [12:46]<SassyVixen> i am a newb [12:46]<Lorre> okay great i r here to annoy you then [12:46]<Lorre>  [12:46]<Soulwarrior> which tabket? [12:46]<SassyVixen> lol [12:46]<Lorre> oh mana did you see that foul move of icon? [12:46]<Killdain> samsung 10.1 [12:46]<Manannan> which one? [12:47]<rothgar wallese> Soulwarrior, just using Safari? I tried but it wouldn't load [12:47]<Soulwarrior> browser is html5 capable on samsung? [12:47]<Lorre> that should be a redcard for some reason the ref didnt do anything about it! [12:47]<Killdain> galaxy [12:47]<Lorre> u didnt see them pleading for a fair fight? [12:47]<Soulwarrior> yes i use illyriad in safari on ipad [12:47]<Manannan> lol, i saw that one [12:47]<SassyVixen> hey lorre are u a newb [12:47]<HATHALDIR> G'day Mana, whats going on ??? [12:47]<Manannan> did you see driad trying to start on me? [12:47]<Manannan> FUNNIEST [12:47]<Manannan> THING [12:47]<Manannan> EVER!!!!! [12:48]<Lorre> while they are allready being backed up by certain uhm semi smart alliances lets say [12:48]<Lorre> lol [12:48]<Killdain> hmm i'll try again if it works on ipad should work on mine. [12:48]<Lorre> i am sassy [12:48]<lord leige> Hello all [12:48]<Zanith> anyone have spare books they could donate me [12:48]<Lorre> hey liege [12:48]<HATHALDIR> have they got you commentating on AAA games now ? [12:48]<SassyVixen> then i guess we can try to be friends [12:48]<lord leige> hey lorre [12:48]<Lorre> i didnt see that manananana [12:48]<zbr> Zanith: Oxfam?:) [12:48]<Zanith> oxfam? [12:48]<Manannan> today is a special presentation of IllySPN... the Illy wide leader in sports [12:49]<Soulwarrior> will take a break, do some work and wait till my ressources fill up [12:49]<Molgzonor> Lorre, would you be willing to send me 40k each stone and wood [12:49]<Lorre> lol [12:49]<lord leige> oooh... whats the headline news? [12:49]<zbr> Zanith you are not from the Uk obviously [12:49]<Lorre> where? [12:49]<Zanith> LOL [12:49]<lord leige> lol... [12:49]<Zanith> New Zealand mate [12:49]<Molgzonor> Derpville [12:49]<Zanith> All blacks to win RWC [12:49]<Zanith> ^^ [12:49]<Molgzonor> Ive got plate armor and tons of spears if you could use any [12:50]<Molgzonor> and will use prest to get them there [12:50]<Zanith> yup if you dont mind mate [12:50]<Lorre> send [12:50]<Lorre> dont worrie about it [12:50]<Molgzonor> Would you like the plate armor and spears? [12:51]<Lorre> no [12:51]<Molgzonor> Thanks [12:51]<Lorre> used all the prestige i still owed ^^ [12:51]<Zanith> yes please [12:51]<Zanith> how do you send stuff so quick? [12:51]<Lorre> zanith ud make a horrible begger! [12:52]<LadyLuvs> morning all [12:52]<Zanith> T_T [12:52]<Killdain> o/ [12:52]<Lorre> morning lady [12:52]<Lorre> ey being a begger brings in good money [12:52]<LadyLuvs> How is Lorre today? [12:53]<Wulfgang (TnT)> Hey lorre u see your pic? [12:53]<Lorre> i see alot of foreigners begging here at a shop and then in the evening they drive away with a bmw [12:53]<Zanith> it helps alot and this is the only game I find where ppl actually help noobs with res and advice [12:53]<Zanith> LOL [12:53]<Lorre> im good and i did wulfgang remember send ya what ya asked for it [12:53]<lord leige> same principle here lorre lol [12:53]<krish88> thnx bschebs... [12:53]<Lorre> im good lady yourself? [12:53]<lord leige> beg beg beg, before you know it they have 5k cities [12:53]<snerg> i gettin me runes yay [12:54]<Lorre> lol [12:54]<Zanith> what does sov do anyway i still don't understand it [12:54]<Zanith> I here ppl talk about it but don't know what it does [12:54]<Wulfgang (TnT)> Did you see The Dukes pic? [12:54]<Wulfgang (TnT)> Also dwarf [12:55]<LadyLuvs> still sore but alive and day 3 of my 4 day work week. yay[12:55]<Lorre> no i didnt [12:55]<Lorre> lol nice! [12:55]<Lorre> ur almost there [12:56]<LadyLuvs> Friday thru Sunday is rest and see if I cant get the sorness to go away [12:57]<Darth Darius> why so sore Lady? [12:57]<Lorre> u should try heatpacks? [12:58]<kushman> Hello Luv [12:58]<Manannan>
sov is very complicated zanith and i'm not willing to go into the fulls
in and outs with a new player when there are so many more important
things for your to learn. it is in basic terms though and expensive
booster to your production [12:58]<LadyLuvs>
Lets just say Parking lots are dangerous for short people when they
have to go up against a raised up vehicle and the driver hits you with
it backing out [12:58]<lTerryXD> hello [12:58]*LadyLuvs sneaks up and covers Manannan's eyes [12:58]<Darth Darius> ouch, sorry to hear that. [12:59]<Manannan> luvs  [12:59]<Killdain> Sorry to hear that Lady. [12:59]<HATHALDIR> chivalry is not dead! [12:59]<LadyLuvs> Thank you Manannan Things good with you?[12:59]<Xaylia> Nope.. more like zombi-fied [13:00]<Manannan> yep. no dramas, no stress. i can set my builds today and dedicate time to the mysteries again [13:00]*kushman wonders if Luv is mad at him.... [13:00]*LadyLuvs sneaks over and hugs kushie ... no I am not mad at you. [13:01]*Shadow giggles [13:01]<LadyLuvs> Yay for no drama! [13:03]<LadyLuvs> How is kushie? [13:05]<manjn> hi guys [13:05]<Lorre> a car hit me once too! [13:05]<Lorre> well to be perfectly honest [13:05]<Lorre> i hit the car [13:05]<Lorre> and it was parked [13:06]<Lorre> and i was on a scooter |
Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 13:25
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yea so what? your point being? you..brephophagist.. |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 14:44
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It seems to me that the entries made in Lorre's name are not made by him. It doesn't use the same phraseology, expressions etc. |
Posted By: lorre
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 15:21
lol? ------------- The battlefield is a scene of constant chaos. The winner will be the one who controls that chaos, both his own and the enemies. Napoleon Bonaparte |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 15:27
lol
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 16:34
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