Begging For Dummies

A step by step guide.

By Squill

Do you you find yourself out of resources often? Are you tired of every other John beating you in  population growth? Do you need the resources in order to wage war against that nosy neighbor? Read further to find the solution to all of your problems!

Well, begging is the solution. The noble art of begging has existed for as long as man has been around. Those who have mastered it have indeed attained enlightenment - according to some religions. Begging of course exists in Illyriad; now you can be part of it.

Those who give often have too much anyway.

Begging on Global Chat (GC)

Step 1: Choose an adequate time to ask for resources. When GC is both busy and has the right kind of people in it.  

1. Usually when there are "high rollers" around; those are the players with high populations.
2. Those players who are currently looking for Illyriads Community's approval (because they: are currently engaged in an unpopular war,  have done something to rune their reputation, e.c.t ) usually have tons to spare.
3. Players who generally recruit for their alliance will send out resources in order boost their own and their alliance's reputation. 

Step 2: Popping the question. 

1. Ask at random, giving the exact amount of the resources you need (usually dependent on what you need  or how much your storehouse can hold). Examples: "Can anyone please send me 5000 of each basic resource." or "Can someone please give me 100 horses so I can build some scouts."
2. If No.1 did not work then target a specific person in GC by asking them for the desired resources and referring to them by name. Example: "Please John, can you send me 15000 gold so I can build a settler." Note: this is usual best suited to people in category 2 of Step 1.

Always remember not to over beg when the same people are in GC. Beg when there are a different flock in GC. If you receive criticism then all you have to do is give them a piece of your mind, remember: they can't do anything to you or your town. They won't risk their reputation or give their enemies a reason to protect you. 

Never ask for something and say that it's is anything to do with building a army. Your main response will be: "You don't have to build troops now, you are to small, if someone attacks you; announce it on GC and we will save you". 

If you are part of an alliance when you ask on GC and you are told to: "Ask for those resources on AC". You have to give them a good reason: "There is nobody online in my alliance" or "I feel bad for asking for more resources from them." 

Begging In Alliance Chat (AC) 

Begging in AC is simple, the primary reason is because an alliance is mainly there for that. All you have to do is follow Step 2.

Begging with a In-Game-Message

Follow Step 2 Number 2 but with a private message to an alliance member in the leadership of your alliance, or perhaps to a wealthy neighbor with a high population.

Please don't feel guilty for begging, those who give usually produce thousands compared to your production. That concludes this guide, further editions and alterations may be made later on to keep up with current trends.

Nesse wrote: How about not begging at all, just stating that you have a lack of resources. You could even say you don't want to beg, though that is making it a bit obvious. "Waiting impatiently for 3k resources to accumulate in 16 hours so I can start upgrading my mage tower." might work in lieu of a question.

Nesse maybe this post is not for you, you have not attempted to master the fine art of begging...

No enlightenment  for you 

1. Fine..... Newbies: Don't insult anyone just because they won't give you resources. Only insult them after they insulted you first. 

2. Don't Beg for resources from Kurfist he is stingy. 

squill i just wanna say thank you very much for creating this guide. Begging seems to be a very confusing issue for so many new players and it's obvious that you put in alot of thought and time into the article with that picture and all. I think it should be required reading for every new player in Illy... players like you really make the community we've all come to appreciate, keep up the great work!    

I wrote this guide in the beginning because of what Rill suggested "gc etiquette"..... But I also agree with Kurfist "not going to create a list of rules on how to behave in GC". (I promote free choice).

Giving it some further thought I honestly think I have written something useful. I have been making quite a profit out of begging with my alt. Sure, this guide might not agree with everyone, but don't think I regret writing it because nobody has liked what I said. 

Nesse wrote: How about not begging at all, just stating that you have a lack of resources. You could even say you don't want to beg, though that is making it a bit obvious. "Waiting impatiently for 3k resources to accumulate in 16 hours so I can start upgrading my mage tower." might work in lieu of a question.

Naughty Nesse, I asked you to write something nice about my post, it's a bit Odd that you did not.

100k storage capacity for a noob is just fail...  all jokes aside, i do not send advance res to new players...  usually it's 1 or 2k each and some books. I also won't send to a player with over 200-300 pop .. i think at that point they should already be well on their way. 

that said, I think some players make it their game to send assistance to other players.  Who they decide to send assistance to should really be no ones concern but the two players. They perhaps have their own agenda. I can immediately think of 3 reasons one might do this.

1. This is the policy of some groups, to assist other newer players without regard to status or alliance.  For example, this is the policy of Dwarven Druids (any Dwarf can ask the Arch-Druid in their region for assistance. Alliance does not matter).
2. Some alliances might give resources as gratuity with a view toward politics and public opinion. What better way to bind a smaller group to your own?
3. Older groups may be conducting a war-by-proxy. If a newer group is engaging war and being supplied by an older group then this would be my first supposition.

What might appear on the face to be over-generosity may actually be intricate strategy on the part of a player or group of players.  No one can guess another's motive for giving a gift and in the end, it is their prerogative and no one else's to dictate. - M.