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Time to disorder!

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Topic: Time to disorder!
Posted By: Binky the Berserker
Subject: Time to disorder!
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2011 at 14:21
 Just mail binkyboy for invites. 



Replies:
Posted By: Azreil
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2011 at 17:25
You know binky boy,  we do not forget, you launched an attack, without any provocation from any of the VALAR, less than a month ago on one of our smaller members. That attack by more than 600 of your troops was of course soundly defeated but we have not yet collected our dues from you.

You did not hear us cry about it on GC, but we will now inform those who wish to join you that yours is a futile interesting and albeit suicidal quixotic cause.  But if they join you, they will get the fun that if you so desire it.  ^^ Tongue

> FW: Victorious defense by Copperaes's forces at The Crystal Port under attack by binkyboy's forces from Binky City
> Received: 26 Jun 2011 01:00
> Original Message:
Two opposing forces clash against each other.

Heavily wooded terrain spells difficulty for ranged units and cavalry. Infantry units find they have a large advantage here.

Like the attackers, these thick forests do not provide much assistance for anyone except your footsoldiers, who take great pleasure in the extra cover afforded to them.

Attackers: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Commander: Binky the Barbarian Knights Knight 1 Damaged for 100, 0 health remains.
Troops: Swordsmen Swordsmen 22 22 0
Troops: Militiamen Militiamen 286 286 0
Commander: Binky Laden Pikemen Pikeman 1 Damaged for 200, 0 health remains.
Troops: Militiamen Militiamen 388 388 0




Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2011 at 18:35
Anyone else thinks this sounds like Lionz Heartz two? Anyway, I wish you alliance luck and prosperity.

/me spoils the act by bursting out laughing.


Posted By: Binky the Berserker
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2011 at 19:06
actually, i was driven away by a valar member, some months ago, from the place i was spawn, so mine was revenge action, without much succes. i don't really want to know who doesn't want to join, but who does. And people shouldn't be so paranoid. I am no clone, or puppet or whatever of anyone,
i am just a player who wants to throw some action into the game, instead of everybody keeping their units in town, or send them to battles they certainly win. At least i was not affraid to provoke 2 big alliances, 3 if you would count pa as such. 


Posted By: Azreil
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2011 at 19:18
I admire the boldness and (seriously, sans the in-game motivation), I wish you and your would-be members  all the best in your game....   Wink


Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 06:37
way to start your "alliance" off right by sabbing a new player


Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 10:06
A bit of randomness is good for the game,best of luck Binky.


Posted By: Lord Loss
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2011 at 13:10
Well good luck Binky

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Have a nice day :)


Posted By: Binky the Berserker
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2011 at 20:39


Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 00:22
Binky Bad man you got mail 


Posted By: Haizea Zurine Wolfe
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 00:49
eh... but why must you seek to go after only those who are smaller than you? how are you "spicing things up" when what I believe you are after is war? They can't protect themselves very well, obviously, but they also can't engage in a war with you.


I still think you are a PvP player who would love a game where when you start off, within a good hour or so, you are already building an army.

i think you are mistaking something about this game. To me, it seems that you are bored. This game is a slower pace and takes actual thought and work at it. You need to build something from practically nothing.

I never agreed with the idea of making you an "example", but I definitely didn't agree with your type of attack. Had it been thieves, I would have just scoffed and said whatever. I've personally been thieved and although it slowed my progress a bit, it didn't still me for days as you did intentionally to a player multiple days away and was a new player.

To any new player, losing that kind of time is a big problem.

I'm sorry that you don't like the way that the majority of the players have decided to play this game, but when I talk to people in GC, I get the distinct impression of a vibrant myriad of people who consider this game to be a fascination because of the in depth quality and that it strays away from the usual, start and kill now type of games.


If you really want a war that badly (and I don't know where you've been, but I've only been on for a month and I have seen wars happening all over the place), then go after players around your strength. Now that you have an alliance, go after another alliance. You'll get your war.


It is sad though, that you completely disregard the diplomacy side of the game and favor the pure war side of the game.


If you are really that bored, the number of games available to you for free, which provide what you are looking for, is immense. Why stay on a game, you obviously don't seem to particularly enjoy much (since you are bored) when you could be enjoying your time playing a game that is more your type?


This is the one thing that I am not understanding. Is it just your need to rebel, or is it something that I just haven't figured out yet? Illy isn't for everyone. I have a number of friends I know that wouldn't actually enjoy this game. They need the fast pace and a fierce, one on one, “Die you Die!”.


I love Illy. I love the complexity and the notion that it is going to become even more in depth as time goes on. I quite enjoy the diplomacy side of the game and considering that it takes so long to be able to support yourself before you can even think to build an army, I truly believe that the creators had purposefully placed stress on the diplomacy side of the game.


War is just too easy to start. That's why it's an easy, quick, instant satisfaction for those other games. But Diplomacy? That's a hard one. It's a challenge. It's a game in itself. It's something that I believe you need in a game like Illy.


So I'll say it again: If you just want pure chaos, play a different game. If you really want what you say you want, then do so in a manner that actually achieves what you want. You want a war, I'm sure you can get that. But the random attacks? It really wouldn't mind if you weren't aiming at new players who are much smaller than you, since that goes against what you are saying. If you want a war with the “Big Players”, then attack them. It is lowly, pitiful, cowardly, and inelegant to go after the new players just to get the attention of the vets. That just makes you seem like a child and you lose the respect of the other players.


Sorry it's so long.. but these are my thoughts and I am just trying to understand some things.




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Haizea rne Wolf

Eldest of the Seven Sisters
Heir to the Clan of Wolf

White Wind of the Wolf


Posted By: Binky the Berserker
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 12:53
i didn't read ur post as it started wth saying i was attacking smaller players and that's not true, the bigger ones just never said anything about it on GC


Posted By: <Squill>
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 14:56
Gud luck with you're alliance, however sadly; I don't think many will join because they don't want to see there towns shredded to pieces.  


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 15:10
Originally posted by Binky the Berserker Binky the Berserker wrote:

i didn't read ur post as it started wth saying i was attacking smaller players and that's not true


If only this were true...


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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 19:17
Originally posted by Binky the Berserker Binky the Berserker wrote:

i didn't read ur post as it started wth saying i was attacking smaller players and that's not true, the bigger ones just never said anything about it on GC

okay, so you are contradicting yourself here, you say that you don't attack smaller players, but then you say the bigger ones never said anything, which implies that you attacked other, smaller, players.


Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 19:29
Originally posted by fluffy fluffy wrote:

Originally posted by Binky the Berserker Binky the Berserker wrote:

i didn't read ur post as it started wth saying i was attacking smaller players and that's not true, the bigger ones just never said anything about it on GC

okay, so you are contradicting yourself here, you say that you don't attack smaller players, but then you say the bigger ones never said anything, which implies that you attacked other, smaller, players.

He hasn't claimed to be attacking smaller players. You are trying to twist his words. so that you can set him up to be attacked. You are low Fluffy and so is anyone who defends you Thumbs Down


Posted By: Sheogorath
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 19:45
Originally posted by Aneirin Aneirin wrote:

Originally posted by fluffy fluffy wrote:

Originally posted by Binky the Berserker Binky the Berserker wrote:

i didn't read ur post as it started wth saying i was attacking smaller players and that's not true, the bigger ones just never said anything about it on GC

okay, so you are contradicting yourself here, you say that you don't attack smaller players, but then you say the bigger ones never said anything, which implies that you attacked other, smaller, players.

He hasn't claimed to be attacking smaller players. You are trying to twist his words. so that you can set him up to be attacked. You are low Fluffy and so is anyone who defends you Thumbs Down


Hey Aneirin why are you calling someone low? look in the mirror buddy..............


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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 19:55
This must be a different player on the Binkyboy account from when I first encountered him.  The english is very much improved.  Even sounds a little like LH/DR.


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2011 at 20:22
Originally posted by Aneirin Aneirin wrote:

He hasn't claimed to be attacking smaller players. You are trying to twist his words. so that you can set him up to be attacked. You are low Fluffy and so is anyone who defends you Thumbs Down


Does anyone really need a reason beyond the fact that he's obviously a troll, he does in fact attack smaller players and his profile clearly states: "Binkies are not affraid to die"?


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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2011 at 06:35
Originally posted by Aneirin Aneirin wrote:

Originally posted by fluffy fluffy wrote:

Originally posted by Binky the Berserker Binky the Berserker wrote:

i didn't read ur post as it started wth saying i was attacking smaller players and that's not true, the bigger ones just never said anything about it on GC

okay, so you are contradicting yourself here, you say that you don't attack smaller players, but then you say the bigger ones never said anything, which implies that you attacked other, smaller, players.

He hasn't claimed to be attacking smaller players. You are trying to twist his words. so that you can set him up to be attacked. You are low Fluffy and so is anyone who defends you Thumbs Down

lol what.  Im not twisting anything, and I'm not attacking anyone.  Maybe you haven't looked at my alliance, but its full of snuggles, not war.  I'm just trying to understand whats going on.  And yes I'm short-statured , Dwarfs are short people.  We can't help it :(


Posted By: Binky the Berserker
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 21:08
what's going on is that i attacked a small player once (cynir). After that GC was shouting so much when i was there, I couldn't explain my point. Other small players who claim to be attacked by me must lying. Ask them for message reports, it's impossible they have them. I spoke to cynirs alliance leader and he told me things were dealt with and no further action would be done against me. And he was true to his word. However, Reign sieged me to the ground, so i had to start over with 0 pop. Now i can understand that these things happen through miscomunication, but i miss the point how attacking me over and over again is doing any good. I learned my lesson. there is little supplies to get from a 20 pop town. overtaking my last town is impossible. besides i think attacking a 20 pop town by 5 town players would go against your own rules of not attacking small players.


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 21:23
It's also a point of the whole anti evil doers and global popularity.  As an "evil doer" yourself, you will be eliminated repeatedly because you threatened the snugle atmosphere of Illyriad. You could scream and complain about it but remember, global chat and the forums is part of a popularity contest.  Those whom are favored most, will have their own errors overlooked more, however if your are new or unliked, your errors will be frowned upon and blown up.


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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin


Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 21:31
you people have to agree that its nice to see a game where for once its the good guys that have the upper hand and not the evil "kill for fun" empires 


Posted By: Binky the Berserker
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 21:31
the only "evil" thing i done was sending some sabs to cynir. i think i payed for that by losing all my towns and having to start over again. i could easy make a new account when i let this one suspend. so it is impossible to remove me from the game. what they are doing is pepeat bulying, and that's very low.


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 21:32
I'm not saying it;s not, I'm pointing some factors out.

No one should be ignorant in the realm of Illy, les when they fail they learn nothing.


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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin


Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 21:39
Originally posted by Binky the Berserker Binky the Berserker wrote:

the only "evil" thing i done was sending some sabs to cynir. i think i paid for that by losing all my towns and having to start over again. i could easy make a new account when i let this one suspend. so it is impossible to remove me from the game. what they are doing is pepeat bullying, and that's very low.


well since you started this ally, you officially declared war on illys "life style" claiming that things had to change and so on...
now, did you expect a great success and a wave of ally requests whit the motto " let's rock this place"?
well now this foolish  dream is being crushed and you shall awaken: the community in charge here is not the same of other games, where everyone is "lol Kill, i rule, you suck. please die".
Its only normal that the ones in charge  ( the kind an caring  empires that stand for honour and rigorousness ) are removing such a headache from the game.
sure, its not exactly" kind and caring" to remove you from the game, but you called this on you...
You could still be safe and sound if you had not started this tread.
so have a nice annihilation. 



Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 21:42
For Binky, I suppose if you did dislike the current player foundation of Illyriad you could gather friends elsewhere, re-enter illyriad, stay quiet for about half a year "population growth during this time period" then with enough followers, attack those whom you deem are holding back the game.

On that note, while I too like some of the peaceful atmosphere, everyone being afraid to attack because of said atmosphere which is prone to mass outcry of warfare, is holding back the warfare aspect of illyriad. Imo


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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin


Posted By: Binky the Berserker
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 21:48
i dont dislike anyone or anything, just wanted to stir up things a little wich i probably did since people are still busy looking for me and sieging me after more then 3 months. I admit my loss and see it was a foolish action but i can't remove the post can i? 


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 21:51
Not really,

I suppose if you wanted to you could suspend your account and re-start.  Publicly broadcasting your intentions while your small is never a wise thing to do, remember. Don't put your intentions in writing.  Goes for Real Life and online, keep them to yourself.


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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin


Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 22:58
Deleting threads: 
1: Click the "post options" yellow cogwheel at the top of your post.
2: Select "edit post" 
3: delete everything in the post.
4: click "update post"
5: repeat with any other posts you do not want.


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"SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM)


Posted By: Divine Redemption
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 23:50
I agree that it was never a good idea to announce your plans as a low pop player and an alliance.  As Kurfist has said, it is better to not announce your plans, then to reveal them.  Bringing a player named Lionz_Heartz was also not a good idea either.  aka why I will never use Divine Redemption or Lionz_Heartz as names for in-game accounts.  Look at Kurfist, he tried to change, be fake, so he can fit in with the community. Then the community found out he was ATH and when he made his first mistake, they decided to siege him as ATH instead of the new and improved Kurfist.  ATH typed in the forums in the color pink so he can copy Mod Strategos(because he thought that would get players to like him more).  He also tried to copy Shrapnel's two game account strat, so he can fit in that way.  The lesson learned here is that ATH needs to try be more like himself instead of trying to be fake so the community will accept him.  Or to survive he needed to avoid his old ATH habits so he will not get founded out. So ATH is in a rather bad position where he is kind of forced himself in a corner and has to be the opposite of himself.

As far as my spy operation, it is much safer to announce plans because I am not letting everyone know the name of my spies in game and which alliance they are in.  The community in this game will not forget the past actions a player has done and will convict the player over any small error they can find if they dislike them.

Kurfist was right about the whole bringing your friends to this game and wait for about 6 months or so before you strike etc....  The operation you want accomplished requires spy work, friendship, and military power to get things done. 

I would recommend to suspend your accounts in your alliance and start over.  Rebuild in secrecy and overtime you and your friends can rebuild Illyriad in your image.

As always it is a lot easier to destroy an alliance with a spy instead of by military power.

You have my support binky.

  


Posted By: Meagh
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 01:54
imho it's poor play to siege anyone completely out of the game and continue to do so even when they're restarting accounts and admitting defeat. Even when done by the vets and "good guys" it is still not honourable or conducive to a healthy gaming environment in any game. - M.


Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 02:01
Originally posted by Meagh Meagh wrote:

imho it's poor play to siege anyone completely out of the game and continue to do so even when they're restarting accounts and admitting defeat. Even when done by the vets and "good guys" it is still not honourable or conducive to a healthy gaming environment in any game. - M.


in line of principle i agree whit you.
those that have beef whit those players usually don't Cry


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 02:23
Uh, LH, I didnt copy Shrapnel, I have copied his city building strats but not his account strats,
nor the color pink for strategos, i just got tired of white and thought the pink looked good.

Other then that, LH has a moderate point towards binky.

@Meagh +1


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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin


Posted By: Binky the Berserker
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 15:46
anyway OD is recruiting again and everyone who isn't affraid to lose is welcome. Eventually we'll win. We shall bring anarchy!


Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 18:46
Hows the disorder thing working out Binky? Are things chaotic enough for you yet?


Posted By: Binky the Berserker
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 22:37
i must say things are better then it used to be.Thumbs Up



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