DDD!-Daily dose o Drama! ~K~T~ havoc war, cont.
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Topic: DDD!-Daily dose o Drama! ~K~T~ havoc war, cont.
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Subject: DDD!-Daily dose o Drama! ~K~T~ havoc war, cont.
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 21:17
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Filling in for sunstorm here, it seems that AmrothAnguireal has joined the ~K~T~/HAVOCwar. He has sent an army to break the siege on johnny112's town, for the reason that johnny is his friend, and that he protects his friends from besiegement. Also, lord leige has said that he will stand up for ~K~T~, citing the same reason that Amroth has, friendship with StJude. Read on to find out more! AmrothAnguireal Crow and MCrow members HAVOC members ~K~T~ members My comments [18:55]<AmrothAnguireal> you have 7hrs 55min before overwhelming forces land at n and w of johnnys city to relieve your siege [18:55]<lord leige> Haas anyone from Havoc asked if there is room for renegotiation of surrender terms? [18:55]<AmrothAnguireal> you can move em or lose em no other choice [18:55]<lord leige> why are you doing this amroth? [18:55]<Pulvorize> yes liege , i got a responce from baugbh saying he was drunk and would reply later , and i got nothing again [18:56]<lord leige> well it seems to me that the majority of havoc dont want to fight anymore [18:56]<Shaharet> It seems like none of havoc wanted a fight to begin with [18:56]<AmrothAnguireal> like I said, Johnny is a friend. But my question is why are you so interested? Do you have ties to KT lord liege? [18:56]<Agila> what ever happend to peace being an option? [18:56]<StJude> That's coercion Amroth. I don't see what your role in this is, other than throwing your considerable weight around. Now, since I consider that insulting, I can't in good conscience comply as I will look like a coward [18:57]<AmrothAnguireal> how are you mixed up with them when you are in the crows? [18:57]<Solon> KT has stated multiple times that they wont back down until Johnny gives up leadership, and its Johnnys alliance, he founded it, so yea... [18:57]<lord leige> I have no affiliation to KT, other than i have spoken to jude on global [18:57]*Solon goes back to lurking [18:58]<Capricorne> so you are Amroth, I don't see your alliance bound with Havoc am I wrong? [18:58]<lord leige> but they are a small alliance and as far as i can see they have subjected to a witch hunt here on global [18:58]<Capricorne> hello all btw [18:58]<WarToy> good AA someone finally asked a good and right question [18:58]<AmrothAnguireal> what you should consider it as Jude is good advice. move em or lose em. that's it mate...no other options [18:58]<StJude> Amroth, so, what are you going to do about the inbound sieges to Baughb cities and mine from Yourbestfriend? [18:59]<StJude> Are you going to police every conflict in Illyriad because you feel you have the jibbly bits to do so? [18:59]<Anderrent> i thought he sent help only because Johnny was a friend of his [18:59]<AmrothAnguireal> I have helped you and baugh jude. You know that I have since you both started here [19:00]<StJude> This is not about that [19:00]<Clavicus Vile> While its true I invested 500k gold so johnny could found an alliance, gold i never seen back. [19:00]<Shaharet> Probably just ones that involve his friends. Which apparently Johnny is [19:00]<StJude> Are you also willing to crush the sieges inbound to our cities too? [19:00]<Dhenna> are you AAø's friends, jude? [19:00]<Anderrent> are you a friend of Amroth StJude? xD [19:00]<Dhenna> if no, then i guess the answer is no [19:00]<lord leige> thats what this is about. popularity contest [19:00]<StJude> Can you let the man speak for himself? [19:01]<Clavicus Vile> No Lord Liege. [19:01]<lord leige> i think youll find it factors in somewhat [19:01]<Clavicus Vile> I have not helped Havoc Unleashed in any way except for a call for peace. [19:01]<AmrothAnguireal> Lord Liege, I have helped you more then once... I ask again your concern here? [19:01]<Dhenna> he did, jude, earlier, he said he was helping johnny because he is a friend [19:01]<StJude> I want to know why a player of AA's size has to get involved in this way with this issue that is between two newb alliances [19:01]<lord leige> well johnny is your friend, jude is mine [19:01]<Clavicus Vile> My task force and I are in war to remove kt leadership and then revoke the war. [19:01]<lord leige> that seems fair, no? [19:01]<AmrothAnguireal> so be it [19:02]<Clavicus Vile> The fact that it may be helping havoc unleashed it just a coinicedence. [19:02]<lord leige> fine [19:02]<Clavicus Vile> By the way doesn't liege mean lord? [19:03]<Clavicus Vile> So you are lord lord. [19:03]<Shaharet> King Redundant. [19:03]<lord leige> its a feudal lord [19:03]<lord leige> look it up [19:03]<AmrothAnguireal> my only response is that you might be more selective about your friends mate. Class reveals itself... [19:03]<Steadfast Shield> liege: noun (also liege lord) a feudal superior or sovereign. • a vassal or subject : the king's lieges. [19:04]<Anderrent> umm what about king Redunderrant ? xP ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
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Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 21:35
| the blue burns.... |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 21:57
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I like how i was involved in this conversation but my bits were cut out. <.<
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Posted By: Ecophagy
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 22:05
QFT. Could OP change the blue to something that we can actually read on the dark skin?
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Anjire wrote:Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 22:08
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~Removed for repetition~ ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 22:09
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Okay, I gave up reading that... May I suggest softer colors and larger font?
------------- Selissa Proud member of Curse of the Wolves I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight! |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 22:16
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i like the colors.. post the rest of the convo
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Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 22:16
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[19:04]<lord leige> know your history [19:04]<Shaharet> I thought that would be 'liege lord' as oppose to vice versa [19:04]<Dhenna> Red Anderrent? [19:04]<Clavicus Vile> blah [19:04]<lord leige> it sounded better to me the way it is. [19:04]<Dhenna> Is Lorre around btw? [19:05]<lord leige> lol amroth [19:05]<Shaharet> Red Anderrent? As in blood? Splat. Bye Ande... [19:05]<lord leige> johnny is hardly class himself [19:05]<Anderrent> red Underrant! [19:05]<Nokigon> hey, hey hey hey lads. [19:05]<Dhenna> lass tyvm! [19:05]<Nokigon> Hold up a minute! [19:05]<AmrothAnguireal> I would not care to insult anyone all are welcome to choose their own friends and pick their own names [19:05]<Anderrent> lolz liege! xD [19:05]<Nokigon> Lass in the case of Dhenna. [19:05]<Shaharet> Lasses, yeah [19:06]<AmrothAnguireal> It is our deeds here that define us [19:06]<Fluffy> Noki! [19:06]<StJude> They sure are defining you Amroth [19:06]<Nokigon> One thing, if we're going to have a fight then can we at least do it in the presence of SunStor? [19:06]<Celebcalen> so we are all defined by our deeds [19:06]<lord leige> i agree amroth [19:06]<Nokigon> *SunStorm? [19:06]<Shaharet> Btw, Sorry LL for poking fun at your name. Is a cool name [19:06]<Anderrent> uh I didnt mean to insult anybody - i am really sorry if anyone felt so [19:06]<dozer> well said AA [19:06]<Nokigon> Secondly, Johnny is a fine chap. He has class. [19:07]<lord leige> dont mention it shaharet [19:07]*Steadfast Shield has class [19:07]<lord leige> water off a ducks back... but wait does that give me justification to send sieges at you? [19:07]<Shaharet> O.O [19:07]*Shaharet hides [19:07]<Mr_Smiley> no sending sieges at Shaharet [19:07]<lord leige> thank you, thank you! [19:07]<Mr_Smiley> I have goods invested [19:07]<Nokigon> thirdly, Amroth can do whatever he wants to do, If he wants to break a siege then break away, mon amies. [19:08]<lord leige> no, of course not. i wouldnt do that [19:08]<Dhenna> I like pie [19:08]<Mr_Smiley> well resources [19:08]<dozer> ohh come on guys... surely your ego's arn't THAT fragile [19:08]<Shaharet> ^_^ [19:08]<Fluffy> I like Dhenna ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 22:20
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No DDD is complete without a good karoke. Now come on everybody lets all singalong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95eaW21tQ0Q&feature=related" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95eaW21tQ0Q&feature=related 
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Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 22:37
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[19:08]<StJude> of course he can do what he wants to, no one said he couldn't. I just think it is telling of his character. there is no risk here to his threat [19:08]<Shaharet> I are protected. At least till I pay back my debts. [19:08]<Dhenna> lol fluffy [19:09]<lord leige> it was a little bit tongue in cheek, and a reference to EoQ's reasons for war on KT [19:09]<StJude> It's not like I can stop him [19:09]<AmrothAnguireal> nokigon pm [19:09]<Agamemnon2> As a 2-day old noob, I'd like to ask if this sort of exchange is the norm for this game? If so I'll stock up on popcorn. [19:09]<Canesrule> So you kick someone out of the sand box and when they come back and start beating the lard out of you its time to call big brother. [19:09]<Fluffy> nah, sometimes I throw parties [19:09]<StJude> nah, but the mob needs its entertainment [19:09]<Shaharet> Lol @ Agemonnon. Semi-frequent [19:09]<Fluffy> and everyone kicks back and drinks a keg of DPA [19:09]<Dhenna> IMO Amroth is acting very noble. He is helping out a friend who is being attacked because he acted like the leader he is [19:09]<Steadfast Shield> its a DDD event, if u ask me [19:09]<Anderrent> lolz canes! xD [19:10]<lord leige> it would seem that way canes lol [19:10]<Steadfast Shield> Sunstorm? [19:10]<StJude> the point is Dhenna, his "friend" shouldn't need help to begin with [19:10]*Manannan brings fresh popcorn for the spectators [19:10]<Anderrent> focus on "he acted like the leader he is" [19:10]<StJude> But he does [19:10]<dozer> thanks Mann [19:10]<Belthazor> Mana, you selling tickets for the show? [19:10]<Capricorne> thanks Mana [19:10]<Canesrule> Just leave the 2 alliances fight it out. [19:10]<Manannan> a friend in need is a friend indeed [19:10]<Dhenna> so? AA can decide for himself if he wants to aid his friend, who did NOT yell for help ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 23:03
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[19:10]<lord leige> finally, couldnt agree more canes [19:10]<Anderrent> hey mana! xD [19:11]<ugofirst> Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do [19:11]*Dhenna already ate all the popcorn [19:11]<Canesrule> a losing friend in need [19:11]<Pixxs> Hi all [19:11]*Steadfast Shield conjures a vat of popcorn out of thin air [19:11]<Nokigon> fourthly, and finally, Johnny has never ONCE asked for help. Think that..... So any exterior help Havoc gets is either because of friendship- or a common enemy. I wonder which one it really is. In my case it's the former, mixed with a healthy dollop or pure boredom. [19:11]<Pixxs> I have a question [19:11]<dozer> looks down at where his popcorn used to be.... looks over at Dhenna : ? ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Iduna
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 23:18
that blue hurts my eyes, can't read it like this.  (stern smile is the closest thing to my eye impression when trying to read the blue sentences) lolMaybe you can change that so we can all enjoy our DDD ?
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Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 23:34
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Everybody is a critic.
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2011 at 23:39
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I'm not going to read any of that because frankly, all these DDD threads are getting old. I will say however that anyone who is interested in reading it but is bothered by the colours can simply highlight the text or alternatively hold Ctrl and press A and the colour of the text will be an easy on the eyes blue. |
Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 01:06
I like it too. |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 03:59
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That is what we call sarcasm "Sar ca sm". It's when we say things but don't really mean it.
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 04:11
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whats with the horrible coloring? why even put coloring? It just makes it hard to read. |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 18:13
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[19:12]<StJude> Yeah, he can Dhenna, no one said he couldn't. I just don't have much respect for that type of coercion in a matter that should be settled between the alliances involved [19:12]<Nokigon> Fifthly, Amroth you have mail. [19:12]<AmrothAnguireal> at times we all need help old boy, that why it is good to HAVE friends... [19:12]*Dhenna ate some of Zerg's maltesers too [19:12]<Steadfast Shield> what can we do for u pix? [19:12]<Agamemnon2> Larks' tongues! Wolf nipple chips! Get 'em while they're hot! [19:12]<Dhenna> zwerg even! [19:12]<StJude> I bet your opinion would be different if DB had of had friends [19:12]<Dhenna> omnomnom aga [19:12]<Pixxs> if you have bought protection with prestige why is it possible that I got robbed of all resources and gold?? [19:12]<Manannan> trap more bugs with honey than you do with vinegar [19:13]<Steadfast Shield> u cant buy prestige protection [19:13]<Dhenna> oh wow pix, what was stolen? I'll send you stuff [19:13]<StJude> But if it makes you feel noble crushing significantly smaller players, who am I to stop you? [19:13]<Shaharet> Pixxs: i don't think one can buy protection with prestige...? [19:13]<Canesrule> Who is "old boy"? [19:13]<Anderrent> it will go down the history that Havoc had to use help from outside to win the war against the newbies they expelled ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 18:15
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[19:13]<Pixxs> everything was stolen [19:13]<Dhenna> Nice guilt trip and blame shifting there, Jude [19:14]<lord leige> thats how its already looking anderrent [19:14]<Clavicus Vile> i hope someone copied this comversation [19:14]<Pixxs> I bought with prestige the extended duration and now everything is gone [19:14]<lord leige> lol clavicus [19:14]<StJude> It's called politics [19:14]<Fluffy> Dhenna, didnt Jude sing something about " I want to grow up to be a politician" ? [19:14]<Steadfast Shield> the extended duration doesnt protect u [19:14]<Shaharet> That extended duration is an extended time with a prestige account and the perks thereof, not extra protection [19:14]<Nesse> Pixxs, reseach runes and put a dath rune on the town. You might still be robbed, but it cost them more [19:14]<Clavicus Vile> I can see the DDD topic [19:15]<StJude> At this stage your Dhennaness, it is the only weapon I have against a much larger player such as Amroth [19:15]<Dhenna> Pix, what is your storage max cap? And research runes and thieves and make some for your defense [19:15]<AmrothAnguireal> you keep saying that jude. DB was more then 4 time our size when we went to war with them...They had exp, numbers and aid from united orc scourge...maybe you should study up on Illy history a little bit. ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 18:17
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[19:15]<Clavicus Vile> KT VS EoQ VS Havoc VS amroth Vs lord liege. [19:15]<StJude> And Havoc was at least that much bigger than KT....see the similarities? [19:15]<Capricorne> and half of innactive players don't they? [19:15]<AmrothAnguireal> CV you just gave me a headache trying to read that [19:15]<Rommell> can someone send me a little of everithing?. i start play 4 days ago [19:15]<Pixxs> mu storage cap is 7,900 [19:15]<lord leige> Im not against anyone clavicus [19:15]<Dhenna> stuff otw, pix [19:16]<Clavicus Vile> sowwy [19:16]<lord leige> lol no worrie [19:16]<Rommell> i pay [19:16]<AmrothAnguireal> no more ss eh rom? [19:16]<AmrothAnguireal> i send [19:16]<Rommell> yeaph [19:16]<lord leige> certainly not amroth... our two alliances are close buddies [19:16]<Steadfast Shield> @CV: i won our forum battle [19:16]<Nokigon> Whoa you two. History lesson. If you removed the inactives from DB at time of war we'd be about the same size. It then steadily deteriorated. [19:16]<AmrothAnguireal> no pay please gift [19:16]<Rommell> thanks [19:16]<Clavicus Vile> What forum battle? [19:17]<(EOM) Harry> Hello Nokigon, you still in DB mate? [19:17]*Clavicus Vile rallys his writers [19:17]<Nokigon> No? [19:17]<Steadfast Shield> well...it was technically with kurfie [19:17]<(EOM) Harry> Just checked XD im an idiot [19:17]<Dhenna> 50 mins until arrival, Pixxs [19:17]<Celebcalen> Hi Harry [19:17]<Steadfast Shield> about alt accounts [19:17]<Clavicus Vile> oh that forum battle, curses silent! [19:18]<AmrothAnguireal> understood nok and thanks [19:18]<Fluffy> I wonder what would happen if Harry, Mana, Jude, SunStorm, Noki, AA, CV, and LH were locked in a room together [19:18]<Clavicus Vile> I would kill all [19:18]<StJude> I would bring beer [19:18]<Pixxs> thank you all for the tips [19:18]<Nokigon> LH would die painfully. [19:18]<Clavicus Vile> sunstorm would later document [19:18]<(EOM) Harry> Hey guys, pah Clavius you'd be the first out [19:19]<StJude> But not for CV, he is underage, he could have sprite [19:19]<AmrothAnguireal> I would smoke and laugh at the frackus [19:19]<Clavicus Vile> Jude your 14 [19:19]<(EOM) Harry> i'd just make sure i have allies [19:19]<Clavicus Vile> im 17 [19:19]<(EOM) Harry> and weed out the week [19:19]<Pixxs> and THANK YOU Dhenna for the goodies ((hugs)) [19:19]<(EOM) Harry> weak* [19:19]<StJude> Irl, me and Amroth would probably be friends [19:19]<Nokigon> I would stand back and give story extracts to Harry for the priviledge [19:19]<Guderian> englishman irishman and a scotsman went into a pub [19:19]<AmrothAnguireal> from a removed distance o course ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 18:19
| I cannot read that red. I just cannot. |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 18:21
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[19:19]<StJude> In this game, not so much [19:19]<(EOM) Harry> Yeah talking about storys Noki [19:19]<Dhenna> np, now get your diplo defenses up please [19:19]<(EOM) Harry> Next one please! [19:19]<Guderian> barman says - is this some kind of joke? [19:19]<Nokigon> Soon..... [19:19]<AmrothAnguireal> Jude I don't doubt that, that is what makes this so hard for me to see [19:20]<(EOM) Harry> Good, today soon? [19:20]<Nokigon> And there won't be one for a while after Saturday. [19:20]<StJude> I am in fact Irish...Harry is English...just need a scotsman [19:20]<Nokigon> I go abroad after then. [19:20]<(EOM) Harry> So St_Jude you still alive [19:20]<AmrothAnguireal> stop wasting effort and start building something grand [19:20]<(EOM) Harry> I JOKE... I can still stop the slaughter, talk you guys all down [19:21]<StJude> Amroth, you do realize I actually don't have any issue with you and most of what I said is to "stir" the pot and see if I can get you to back down, right? [19:21]<Steadfast Shield> @Amroth: what is the name of your new book again? [19:21]*Nokigon whistles for his Mad Irish Half-Scotsman [19:21]<AmrothAnguireal> KT does a right face and I would be happy to support them but I will not allow a friend to be sieged in some rediculas business that should be done already [19:21]*Fluffy pounces Noki [19:21]*Belthazor tells Nok to shush [19:21]<StJude> I hear ya Amroth [19:21]<Nokigon> BELTH! [19:21]*Belthazor grunts [19:21]<StJude> I would argue there are other ways to break the siege than coercion though [19:22]*Nokigon points to Belth, the Mad Half-Scottish Irishman [19:22]<Nokigon> Does he count? [19:22]<Steadfast Shield> no, u read him Stjude [19:22]<AmrothAnguireal> knows his spelling was off...gunna go smoke now bbl [19:22]<(EOM) Harry> Oh dear! boys and girls you got myself,Noki and Belt all in the forums! [19:22]<StJude> Hippy [19:22]<lord leige> Amroth, cant you neogotiate? Havoc are on the verge of surrender anyway [19:22]<Nokigon> That was VERY mature Jude. [19:22]<AmrothAnguireal> gardening is always a soothing and constructive past time [19:22]<Belthazor> See? No one cares about me. [19:22]<(EOM) Harry> Lord, Havoc are no were near surrender [19:22]<lord leige> they should be harry lol [19:23]<Pulvorize> we are not on the verge to slaughter , havoc stays silent cause we dont wish to sound arrogant or twist the truth [19:23]<Manannan> christ i only went afk a minute and the chat went on a mile [19:23]<StJude> Pul, question then. Are Havoc willing to surrender? [19:23]<lord leige> if it werent for amroth, their leaders capital is under serious threat of being destroyed [19:23]<Pulvorize> we are willing to end hostility , not surrender big difference [19:23]<Belthazor> Amroth isn't the only one mad at KT. [19:23]<AmrothAnguireal> does that make you sad or angry LL? [19:24]<StJude> Fair enough Pul [19:24]<lord leige> it envokes no emotion in me [19:24]<AmrothAnguireal> not like I am siegeing them... [19:24]<Steadfast Shield> every1: like the new WN cover pic? http://uk1.illyriad.co.uk/#/Alliance/Alliance/433" rel="nofollow - [19:24]<Nokigon> Actually Lord I might be able to break at least one on my own [19:24]<(EOM) Harry> Belthy! Babe me and Nokigon are here! were never all on together! [19:24]<StJude> While Amroth may break the siege, the war will continiue then until you do [19:24]<(EOM) Harry> I IS WELL HAPPY [19:24]<Belthazor> Harry, Nok is in my alliance... [19:24]<Anderrent> Havoc lost the chance to fight back fairly, though i am not sure if that is the way Havoc members see it [19:24]<Belthazor> I'm always with him [19:25]<(EOM) Harry> I know, but i never see you guys on at the same time in GC, i miss you two! [19:25]<lord leige> does it make you sad or angry that johnny is beaten amroth? [19:25]<Belthazor> Stead, I like it. [19:25]<(EOM) Harry> You know your my /b/ro's! [19:25]<Belthazor> I miss you too mate [19:25]<Shaharet> Steadfast: Nice work [19:25]<Steadfast Shield> thx [19:25]<AmrothAnguireal> He doesn't look beaten to me [19:25]*Belthazor hugtackles Harry [19:25]<Nokigon> I go on GC fairly often. Belth just haunts the place. [19:25]<Belthazor> Problem? [19:25]<lord leige> is that why youre breaking the sieges then? [19:25]<Anderrent> if Johnny isnt beaten, they why did you send help Amroioth? [19:26]<StJude> Touche [19:26]<Belthazor> Cause they're friends. [19:26]<StJude> But his friend is beaten [19:26]<lord leige> doesnt mean he isnt beaten belth [19:26]<Belthazor> I'd help a friend,beaten or not. [19:26]<(EOM) Harry> Lord, i am in good contact with Havoc and i know that Havoc had a mass army inbound from the other players to break the siege [19:26]*Nokigon would sacrifice three of his cities for Belty. [19:26]<AmrothAnguireal> to help johnny because he is a friend and under siege...gee I though I said all that and slowly also [19:26]<Clavicus Vile> what i miss? [19:26]<Steadfast Shield> it shall win! [19:26]<Nokigon> Maybe four if you get me some coffee [19:26]<(EOM) Harry> Even if Belthazor or Nokigon could handle a siege, id still at least re inforce or break the siege [19:26]<Belthazor> OLY 3?! [19:27]<Belthazor> *ONLY [19:27]<StJude> Amroth, why didn't you help him sooner then? [19:27]<Steadfast Shield> maybe [19:27]<AmrothAnguireal> I know chat moves quickly [19:27]<StJude> He was in need 3 weeks ago [19:27]<StJude> Sounds like he is beaten to me [19:27]<Belthazor> You're too young to drink coffee. [19:27]<AmrothAnguireal> I have not been paying attention to this matter [19:27]<Shaharet> Chat moves very fast when there is massive drama [19:27]*Clavicus Vile drinks coffee [19:27]<StJude> Some friend then [19:27]<Nokigon> You can always drink coffee [19:28]<Anderrent> one would almost think that johnny's friends didnt help him sooner, because they expected him to take care of himself [19:28]<Baughb> johnny cant fight his own wars? against an alliance he almost quadruples in size? [19:28]<Nokigon> Or tea. [19:28]<Belthazor> Coffee is like drugs. [19:28]<AmrothAnguireal> that sed, I will move to assist johnny as he is a friend. I have had no word at all form him on this or anything lately [19:28]<Belthazor> Ask Sheldon Cooper. [19:28]<AmrothAnguireal> he requested nothing at all [19:28]<StJude> I take your word on that Amroth then [19:28]<Baughb> needs 3 otheer alliances to step in and help? [19:28]*Clavicus Vile likes bbt [19:28]<Baughb> doesnt say much about his leadership [19:28]*Belthazor loves Sheldon [19:28]<Clavicus Vile> Whos the three alliances? [19:29]<Clavicus Vile> the actor that plays sheldon is the best [19:29]<Steadfast Shield> h? VALAR, and Curse [19:29]<Belthazor> He rocks. [19:29]<Celebcalen> StJude you tactics in general and this siege in particular have been reckless and poorly organised. Rest assured if this war continues Havoc intends to prevail and we shall do it honourably [19:29]<StJude> Honorably Celeb? [19:29]<(EOM) Harry> Baughb, don't group EOQ with Havoc, their at war with you for something different and you know it, you two are great spin doctors il give you that if your'e still alive by the end of this i would employ you too [19:29]<Steadfast Shield> and the Crows and their affiliates [19:29]<Baughb> you need help now celeb [19:30]<StJude> Put your money where your mouth is then and ask Amroth to step aside [19:30]<StJude> Otherwise, nothing but mouth flapping [19:30]<(EOM) Harry> Mcrow attacked them for being mouthy in chat, not because of Havoc [19:30]<Anderrent> the way the word "honor" is being disgraced! [19:30]<Baughb> mouthy about havoc [19:30]<Steadfast Shield> lol [19:30]<Capricorne> Yes Celeb, they were so poorly organised that you now need help [19:30]<Clavicus Vile> Who mentioned my alliance? [19:31]<(EOM) Harry> No at me and Kurvist/clavius vile [19:31]<StJude> No baughb, I also called harry a braggart [19:31]<Steadfast Shield> mouthy isnt a great way to make friends [19:31]<Belthazor> This is a balst but I'll go back to lurking [19:31]<StJude> Because he was boasting about how great he was [19:31]<Belthazor> *blast [19:31]<Fluffy> no, im better than Harry [19:31]<Celebcalen> No Caprocorne we have not asked anyone for help. ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 18:23
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[19:31]<StJude> Thank you Capricorne, that hits the nail on the head [19:31]<Clavicus Vile> The fact you managed to get a pacafist to threaten you with warefare says soemthing. [19:31]<(EOM) Harry> I'm not great, never said that. I just know how to play the game [19:31]<Baughb> jude, i hit 2 buildings, how did you do? [19:31]<StJude> No, just show his true colors [19:32]<Clavicus Vile> DFTT [19:32]<StJude> I hit a clay pit and tannery [19:32]<Baughb> i figure we have 7 rounds of attacking [19:32]<StJude> At least [19:32]<Baughb> should be 28 buildings min. [19:33]<StJude> then havoc can breathe a sigh of relief and try and defend themselves "honorably" [19:33]<Celebcalen> I note that both Capricorne and Lord Leige are memebers of Crow and presume that KT are getting support from that quarter but Havoc are are fighting as an alliance on our own and we will stand or fall that way. [19:33]<StJude> You always were good with numbers baughby [19:33]<Anderrent> sneding army at someone as small as KT is a deplorable act coming from someone in mCrows [19:33]<Steadfast Shield> LONG LIVE EXTRA-CRUNCHY ENGLISH MUFFINS <--very true [19:33]<Agamemnon2> Wrens' livers! [19:33]<StJude> No you won't Celeb, you have EoQ, Noki and Amroth [19:33]<Fluffy> Harry, you wanted me to siege 156|196 right? [19:33]<(EOM) Harry> Wow, since when did this turn into KT alliance chat! For the last time! THE OTHER ALLIANCES ARE NOT PROTECTING HAVOC! [19:33]<Fluffy> oops, not AC [19:34]<Clavicus Vile> EoQ is not fighting for Havoc. [19:34]<Clavicus Vile> It really isnt even Eoq [19:34]<Agamemnon2> Chaffinch brains! [19:34]<Clavicus Vile> It's myself and two other members. [19:34]<(EOM) Harry> Fluffy is a lovely troll ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 18:24
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[19:34]<StJude> @ CV ...Durp [19:34]<Rill> what I'm hearing is that certain members of KT ... [19:34]<Manannan> is the CTTF mobilizing? excellent [19:34]<Rill> StJude comes to mind [19:34]<Clavicus Vile> It's actually Derp [19:34]<StJude> Thatsa spicey meatball [19:34]<Rill> have managed to piss off pretty much every alliance out there [19:34]<(EOM) Harry> StJude wasnt here for my forming of the CTTF! [19:34]<Celebcalen> No you won't Celeb, you have EoQ, Noki and Amroth They are only there because of you StJude and the way you conduct yourself. [19:35]<Fluffy> Capture The Troll Flag? [19:35]<(EOM) Harry> this is why i brought them about [19:35]<Agamemnon2> Jaguars' earlobes! [19:35]<StJude> then ask them to back off celeb if you are so confident [19:35]<Rill> do they have an Illy's biggest idiot award? [19:35]<Anderrent> Celeb, lord liege only spoke for KT, he didnt send armies [19:35]<Fluffy> or Center That Trebuchets Fly? [19:35]<RagnarokX> needs moar drama [19:35]<Manannan> counter troll task force [19:35]<StJude> Otherwise, mouth flapping <--there's a lot of that in chat now a days [19:35]<Fluffy> I like mine better [19:35]<(EOM) Harry> Indeed counter troll task force [19:35]<lord leige> celeb, the crows are neutral alliance. we are not involved in the war between you and KT [19:35]<(EOM) Harry> A brain child i wanted to implement for some time ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 18:24
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[19:35]<Anderrent> [19:34]<Celebcalen> No you won't Celeb, you have EoQ, Noki and Amroth They are only there because of you StJude and the way you conduct yourself. <-- I hope amroth sees this downright insult [19:36]<Rill> StJude objects when other people look like they're mouth flapping [19:36]<lord leige> but i can speak for myself [19:36]<Rill> that's his specialty [19:36]<Celebcalen> Ok I accept your word LL [19:36]<Rill> not to worry, StJude, you're still the undisputed drama queen [19:36]<Anderrent> amroth said he sent army to help a friend - now Havoc disowns him! [19:36]<lord leige> thank you celeb [19:36]<(EOM) Harry> mcrow got involved at one point, just because you guys got mouthy and douchey [19:36]<StJude> You can be concubine Rill ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 19:06
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I have today received a mail from StJude. I have no doubt that he will seek to to distort or deny its content in some way. If you recall this war was originally sparked off because BaughB was kicked from Havoc for what we saw was unacceptable bullying. However it is not BaughB who has made all the running or flamed and irritated GC. It is StJude. You only have to read the logs posted in this thread to realise this. Why would StJude want prolong a war based on a flimsy argument against Havoc who are least twive the size of KT. The answer lies below in StJude's own words. In my mail to him I pointed out to him that all he had achieved was to irritate influential players in global like EOM Hary, Manannan & Amroth Anguireal . He replied as follows "Those influential players in global are not as well liked or nearly as influential as you think. I had to talk a 78k pop player out of attacking you noobs, it just wouldn't have been right. Also, a coupe of friends I have made have been having words with Harry and CV's lapdog YBF was hit with a metric ARSE ton of thieves. 3500.... CV wasn't exactly happy. No, my shenanigans are working as planned. I got a level 20 barracks out of them before you poor sods did" StJude is not doing this for anyone but himself. He is pleased that his "shenanigans are working as planned". And he will cause any end of trouble in GC or even for his own alliance to get it. Ladies and gentleman StJude is more or less a self confessed troll. If he is removed from the equation then all his "shenanigans" can cause no further harm. |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 19:25
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Well, My member Yourbestfriend, was hit by a few hundred hostile diplomats by player "spirit" of skull and bones. That part is true.. ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 19:54
So is the rest |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 19:56
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I'm not doubting you, I'm just verifying for others that the bit with yourbestfriend is true. Except the lapdog part, although I'm starting to ignore Judes posts all together.
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 19:58
No you are not, you are far too easy to bait. |
Posted By: Dhenna
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 20:16
Weeeee troll strikes again!
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Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 20:34
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If by bait you mean myself and a few other members entering war against you and BaughB. then yes I was baited, however myself and my members will have the last laugh when your cities are fully reduced to rubble. You should start saying good bye to your months work. ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 20:42
See? I knew you would prove my point. |
Posted By: Dhenna
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 17:05
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Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 17:15
| Skulls & Bones is a big alliance! |
Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 19:19
Who said anything about giving words to me, I am firmly in control of the situation and have much more influence than you like to think i have, just ask around Jude and see what" investors" i have on my side now, some are even keen to end this war quickly to profit soon. I must thankyou though because if it wasn't for you, i would not of come up with my new plan and bring about a new golden age in illyriad that stops this new horde war alliance properly coming in to effect in illyriad but a new age of trading on an entirely new scale. Edit: Talking in absolutes again, if it all goes to plan ( There is always luck and the graft of others to make sure of these things) , and you never know what will happen :P So cheers bud.
------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart. |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 20:56
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Trading? finally my alliance and CE are in a trading age... I'll have to tell sheogorath about this. ! ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 03:16
Well I'm pretty sure I can speak for the individual desires of the entire alliance here when I say that Havoc would love to have an age of peace, where we can grow, be friendly, and help the new players coming into Illyriad. I know for myself that alot of hte vets sent me aid in the beginning, when I was first playing, and I believe that this sort of help should be paid forward.
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 04:09
Aye, they are a pretty decent size, they are lucky to have us. |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 04:18
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I believe you mean, "We are lucky to have them".
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Posted By: Leungarific
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 07:04
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No Kurfist, Jude means that "S&B are lucky to have KT". Let's not forget that it's the ginormous ego of KT that got them into the mess with Havoc in the first place. ------------- Whence we cometh foreth youeth, youeth willeth knoweth iteth. - AnalrotsAnIStinkAlot |
Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 14:05
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Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 14:35
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Yes Jude means that "S&B are lucky to have KT" - you have to give it that they have got spine! xD I love your signature Leungarific! xD |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 18:05
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I like it to, So I noticed one of my members reinforcement parties arrived at the siege square before the siege, so now the siege party reinforced his reinforcement party and they are just sitting there.. ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2011 at 21:49
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[21:43]<Thordor> What's the general opinion of the Knights Templar? [21:43]<Rill> Logoffski, I'm sure that we can find a vet to send your villagers some Prozac [21:43]<Rill> or beer at least [21:43]<Biggsull> my storehouse is pretty small im going to try and upgrade it a bit first before asking for presents [21:43]*Rill is not allowed to express her opinion of KT [21:43]<Thordor> lol [21:43]<StJude> Now that you have sent an army at us Thordor, I will have you know we are awesome [21:43]<Muddy waters> Log.. incoming vans [21:43]<StJude> And you will die [21:43]<Gryzelda> lol Jude [21:43]<Thordor> lol, I have no doubt, Jude.  [21:43]<Gryzelda> it's one way to find out [21:44]<Logoffski> You even brought beer  [21:44]<Smoking GNU> testing [21:44]<RagnarokX> why cant u recall vans but spies and scouts DOH [21:44]<Rill> why thank you Ragnar ... sorry it's gonna take you so long to get your caravan back [21:44]<StJude> You should mail Yourbestfriend
yay? ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2011 at 04:43
| Even I am starting to get bored with our drama. |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2011 at 05:03
+1 |
Posted By: Celebcalen
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2011 at 12:24
Anytime that baughb and StJude are willing to propose peace terms Johnny112, the Dukes and Havoc will listen provided the terms are sensible and level headed. For us this War was never about winning is about the principal of the right to protect newbes and Johnny and havoc feel that they proved that point long ago. We are not an aggressive alliance, far from it, but now everybody knows that we can cannot be pushed around and we should not be underestimated. 
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2011 at 13:40
Peacetalks were on the table two days ago and the terms were incredibly reasonable, if you are truly not an aggressive alliance why does it take so long to decide you want peace? One would think that the response would be immediate. |
Posted By: Baughb
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 01:49
| Havoc Unleashed has opted for war instead of peace. Overwhelming vote to do so too. We at KT are not crying about it, just let us, and them, sink or swim on our own. No need for others to destroy sieges sent to each others cities. |
Posted By: Dhenna
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 10:04
Does that mean you're gonna send back all the supplies you've gotten from a certain bigger alliance?
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Posted By: Baughb
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 12:51
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Good try Dhenna, you completely side stepped the issue of havoc crying for peace these many weeks, and when a legitimate offer is on the table they opt for war. please try to stay on point. when you reply and copy a post you should comment on what was said. No troops from outside KT have attacked Havoc or EoQ, or the sieges sent against us. Its time for havoc and EoQ to do the same.
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Posted By: Capricorne
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 13:58
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Well said Baughb. I just fail to undertand why we can't let 2 small alliances fight together. It's the olny moment they can have fun with that without loosing months of play. But maybe it is the issue here. We all want to fight and use our armies but we're too aifraid to use them because all the Illy world may chose to fight us... So we choose to fight in a war that have not a single one connection with us. Doing so, with the shield of righteousness, we can "help" the weak against a disgusting ennemy and finally, unleash our beloved armies. I hope it's not the case but if it is: shame on you. |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 14:26
Havoc can do the same. Taking help as supplies during war is altogether different than having someone else fight for you. Maybe it is that I see the affair from a wrong perspective, but it does look like Havoc is neither negotiating peace, nor fighting a war. They are instead trying to make confederations with half of Illy, and expecting them 'do the thing' for them. Look at the number of alliances at war with KT and read with it what Capricorne said. |
Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 16:03
Wow, couldn't have put that any better myself. /hattip |
Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 16:26
Ander, appreciate the perspective, I don't think it is altogether wrong. It confuses me, the greater community at large encourages care packages and I have been the recipient of a lot of care packages from the first day I set foot here. Believe it or not, I have actually sent packages out myself, I just don't go advertising it in Global. (it would sully my troll reputation). Anyway, I don't understand the outrage that any alliance would continue to receive care packages at all. Either care packages are good, or they are bad. Or, are they only bad when care packages go to someone other than ourselves or the people we like? The other thing that boggles my mind is the outrage people have expressed when I told folks in global chat I was buying prestige. As far as I know, it is the only way to support the devs, and a valid component of the game that will allow resource boosting (10% is significant but not game breaking) as well as instant building. I get it, a lot of people don't like KT, fair enough, but at least use some logic and consistency when levelling charges at us please. |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 16:55
Yeah no troops, you just got Spirit from Skull and Bones to send a few waves of diplomats. But no troops so its ok. ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 17:28
Yes, we did vote to continue the war, not because we are aggressive, but because of the multiple times that we offered peace and we were either ignored or insulted. We voted to continue because of the fact that we don't trust KT's word, because it has been proven in other matters to not hold water. We voted to continue the war because we're winning, and we want you to pony up the goods for when you loose instead of a third party paying it for you. We did not start this war, so it is still reasonable to say that we are not an aggressive alliance. That said, I would have to disagree about you not crying about the situation. Both parties were warned not to send siege attacks against each other. Havoc paid attention to it, and did not send siege attacks. KT did not pay attention, sent the attacks, and had them subsequently destroyed, as they were warned would happen. I fail to understand how the fact that you keep bringing this matter up can be construed as anything other than whining, but I'm willing to listen to how you believe it is not so. As for others helping Havoc out, indeed I did say something, but only after it became blindingly obvious that KT was violating it's own demands that no outside alliances send aid of any sort. I also would like to point out that EOQ decided to attack KT, not because of any asking from Havoc's part, but because of KT's actions. Therefore, while we did not enlist their aid, we will work together to defeat a common enemy. As the saying goes "the enemy of my enemy, is my friend." *editted for grammatical errors*
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 17:40
I live for these.
I would like one example, just one, where we broke our word? Oh, and something verifiable. If you can't do that, send Celeb on here to spout some nonsense. At least that way I can watch him put his entire rear end in his mouth and get some kicks out of it.
Continuing the war is what makes you aggressive. Also, you declared the incident in global chat and declared war between two alliances. You could have simply fought it out between baughb and yourself when he sent troops. Instead, you flew off the handle and dragged your entire alliance into a conflict without first getting their input.
Havoc didn't pay attention? Nonsense, you were just too slow. The more interesting part is that you couldn't break the siege yourselves due to poor planning and co-ordination
The deal was no outside troops. You guys got aid from day 1 when war was announced in Global Chat. Or do you deny it? There is a 20 page thread on here somewhere where a spy indicated that a care package was sent and I am sure many more have too. We have it on good authority from a spy that care packages continued to arrive in your alliance from players outside havoc. Or do you deny these facts? Be careful here please, concrete evidence shows otherwise. The issue here is that you needed TROOPS to be sent to repel the sieges on your city. This war would have been over had one side successfully sieged the other. I asked Clavicus Vile what his endgame is. I ask the same here too, what are the conditions for victory now between Havoc and KT? 1 city? 2 cities? An entire alliance sieged from the game? |
Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 17:45
Well I wouldn't say that it's completely unrelated. Part of this game is the community. Now, I'm not saying there arn't, never will be, or shouldn't be factions in the game, I think it's part of the game. However, when someone, or anyone, takes it upon themselves to attack new players, especially when those aggressor players are wielding a large advantage, I would say it becomes a concern not only of the individual players involved, or the alliances involved, but a cause for concern for the community at large. "How so" you ask? Well, the player base is obviously the biggest part of a game, and the new players are the corner stone for the success of the game, as they bring in growth for the game, even when older players leave for the various reasons that they do so. If then, the new players are subjected to attacks, and nothing is done to protect those who cannot protect themselves, then the new players will leave for the most part, and as older players leave, there will not be sufficient numbers replacing them for the community to thrive, and as a result the game dies. I believe we can all agree that we would rather not have Illyriad go out, and most especially not due to our actions or inactions.
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 17:49
FTFY. Lets stick to the facts, there is only one verifiable account of Baughb attacking a smaller player and he answered that issue. |
Posted By: Baughb
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:00
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Good answer Jude, but the incident in question was a size difference of 25. I had 100 pop and he had 75 pop. Not exactly overwhelming odds. i sent 20 militia, he had none. this is your only example of noob bullying by me? i was a noob just as the victim was.
I am so tired of hearing how KT attacks noobs. We never have and never will.
Dhenna - read carefully, i said KT has never not I
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Posted By: mistwalker
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:03
| I really can't believe you Johnny112...you are exasperating, truly. |
Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:07
Well first, there is always the where I sent messages to baughb giving him the surrender terms the first day of the war. No I don't have those, I periodically delete old messages for when I'm looking for something specific in the last day or two, and this way it cuts down on having to look through all the old messages. There is also where Pulvorize sent a message (not for sure here, but believe it was during the first week or two) and baughb said he was drunk and would send a reply. He never did. Secondly, continueing a war that we're winning, that you started (remember who sent troops. That's the start of a war regardless of who declares it offically) is not aggressive. It's simply determination to see that you understand you are beaten. Your principle would be the same as declaring England and France the aggressors in WWII against Hitler, because it was them that declared war, and never mind that Hitler simply invaded people without bothering to tell them they were at war. As for me dragging my whole alliance into it, KT diplo'd and magic attacked multiple parties in Havoc before the declaration of war, some of which were not even around when Baughb was kicked from our ranks for his offences. That would be KT involving them, not myself. Thirdly, I said Havoc DID (emphasis here for correctional purposes only) pay attention, not that they didn't. Also, we had the capabilities of breaking those sieges. Our armies simply arrived a little after those that relieved my city.(and see how you brought that up yet again?) Fourthly, as for your contention that it was no outside troops, that is simply untrue. Baughb said that he wanted the war to be between him and I, because of the size of Havoc. I told him that that would not work, as there were already troops marching on my city from a different player. He then said "Fine, but lets make it between the groups. No outside help." This is not, "no outside troops," it is not, "no outside defences" it is a simple "No outside help." This was KT's requirement, that we DID observe, until it became clear that KT was not following it. Fifth, the charge of me receiving war items is true, but twisted. I did not receive aid, I received goods that I purchased paying in different ways (such as a trade of one type of good for another, or gold etc) or I sold items. An example of this is when I had sold a player some saddles, and then the war was declared. I happened to forget the transaction (thank goodness for the fact it was taken care of before the war) and when I recieved the gold, I mentioned the fact that I had recieved this gold for unknown reasons in GC. Baughb became irate, claiming that we had recieved outside aid. The player that had sent the gold to me reminded me of the saddles I had sold them, and tried to explain to Baughb. He not only refused to listen, but called the player a liar. (For those wondering, no I don't remember the players name. I'm good with conversations and faces, not with names.) The player who I had done the transaction was very calm, and told Baughb that he could send him a report of the fact that it was a transaction by forwarding a message where it showed the saddles from my city arriving. I don't know if that ever happened or not, as I wasn't involved, but the offer at least was made. Sixth, and finally, as for what it would take to end the war with Havoc is simple. Admit your defeated. Then pay to each player the cost in troops that were killed, and send the alliance as a whole (not to individual players, but one payment) 500K gold in war reparations for attacking us without cause.
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:17
Huh, all this hullabaloo over that? |
Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:17
I mentioned no names, and actually had the berberos v _duq in mind when I made these statements.
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Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:18
You're part of KT. Therefore, KT has done so, whether it continues or not, that's the question.
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Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:20
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:23
By that logic, since he did this as a member of Havoc, then Havoc did so, not KT. Seriously man.... |
Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:25
There is another thread for that Sir. Your justification for kicking Baughb, which is the defining action that catapulted two alliances into this war, is that he attacked newbs and this is a weak attempt to equate this matter with the _duQ/Berberos incident. Try harder please. |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:27
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What is my end game? I had my diplomat send this message to Every Knights Templar's member, maybe you deleted it. "Hello all members of Knights Templar. I'm Holstarr - Ambassador for Empire of Qingdao (=EOQ=). :) I have been charged with the responsibility of notifying all members here present on the situation between our warring alliances. It is the intention of our leader Clavicus Vile and other militaristic members of our alliance to annihilate St Jude and BaughB. The reason for this conflict is known to both Clavicus Vile, St Jude and BaughB. As they are our respective leaders, we are required to do as asked in the name of our alliances regardless of the agenda or personal opinion. As this conflict is targeted to just two members, Clavicus Vile has given his word that all other Knights Templar members will receive one weeks restock and supply once the objective has been met, at which time the status of war on ~K~T~ will be removed from =EOQ= 's alliance diplomacy. I would like to extend my personal reassurances to you that the secondary objective of restock and supply will be fulfilled. " ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:30
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Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:33
Not equating anything to anything else. It was a direct response to a comment made in THIS thread. Therefore, I quoted a comment from THIS thread, and posted a reply in THIS thread.
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:35
I swear this is what I see when I read your posts...  |
Posted By: Capricorne
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:39
Woah! I'm Kind of confused my dear Johnny. So we have to get involved when someone declare war against a new player. Especially when he wield a large advantage? ... Well I guess ~kt~ is just a little bit jonger than havoc insn't it? And... Oh let me see... ~kt~: 8 members and 11572 pop. Havoc 50 members and 41583 pop!!! Oh and plus that you've declared war on them. Plus you've refused peace because... you're a peacefull alliance... which is winning the war so is good with that. lol you're so funny. Ok it seems that all the conditions are fulfill. -> If the community of Illyriad can raze the evil havoc bullying the small ~kt~ to help the new players whom give life to our beloved game I'll be very happy. (or at least let them do as they please. They're both agreed to fight so why must we get involved???) Thanks you very much in advance. |
Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:43
^^ Funny thing to say when a 100 pop player attacks a 75 pop player. Maybe you could request the devs to remove the barrack building and replace it with a zoo or something. Anyways your post was in part admitting that you'd rather have this war fought for you by the community, than yourself. But I doubt you realized it.
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Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:44
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Actually Capricorne, KT attacked us, therefore they started this war, not Havoc. We refuse peace when we're winning, because they refused peace, and their word is untrustworthy. (starting to feel the deja vu) If Havoc had started this war, then while it would suck, yes I'd feel the community had the right and obligation to defend KT. However, that simply is not the case.
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Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:47
I have to completely disagree with you. if anything, it was more along the lines of what Capricorn said. I'm not saying "help the big guys kill the smaller groups" I'm saying "stop the unwarranted attacks on the smaller groups" (Deja vu has arrived) I didn't say any names specifically when I made that post, so it applies to everyone that would attack new players. Also, I didn't have Baughb and that incident in mind, I had the berberos v _duq in mind. If people have their conscious pricked, it must be that the same rule would apply to them. Either way though, I did not specify Baughb in any way, shape, form, or fashion.
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Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:49
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If I may interject myself into this argument, the three parties that are waging war upon Knights Templars are doing so for most likely entirely different goals. While I can't speak for Thordor and why he is fighting, I and my task force are fighting to in a sense, save my honor. After all I am sure if I went right up to you, dear capricorne, and bad mouthed you, and your alliance for a few days, you'd be probably send an army my way. That is what happened with myself and Knights Templar, unfortunately BaughB joined in on the insulting started by Jude, which then lead to the war itself. Please note that not all of EoQ is taking part in this warfare, about 90% is continuing to upgrade their cities under my order, while I and a few others are fighting Baugh and jude. Now in the present, we have Jude making insulting comments in this thread for a "debate". Shouldn't one in a debate actually converse and point out flaws as to why one is fighting instead of constantly insulting the opposition, then getting upset when they are referred to as a troll? Baugh and Jude also scorn those who help havoc with occasional resource or military aid, claiming they and I quote " No troops from outside KT have attacked Havoc or EoQ, or the sieges sent against us. Its time for havoc and EoQ to do the same." Really? what do you call the diplomatic attacks Skull and Bones sent towards members of my alliance?. ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:52
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Continue this in message form form here on out - Its getting tiresome seeing the forumthreads overflow with this bs, yet humerous since both alliances are drawing a lot of negative attention to themselves, and could easily be removed when people just decide that they're finally fed up. This passed the kindergarden stage long ago - if you need to take it further, then get off the damn forum! |
Posted By: Johnny112
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:55
Ty Kurfist, I was starting to wonder if I really was repeating myself, or if this was a dream, and I was being punished by the gods to say the same thing over again, the way that Atlas holds the world, or that other greek fella has to keep pushing the boulder to the top of the mountain.
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Posted By: mistwalker
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:57
| Diplo attacks are not "troops".... |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:58
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It's a lopphole, by that then I could call on my favors in multiple players and unleash waves of diplomats.
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 18:59
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Posted By: Dhenna
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 19:07
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I hereby officially withdraw from discussing the issue in this thread.
You cannot argue with people who twist and turn your words, manipulate them into meaning what THEY want them to mean, and throw red herrings at you constantly.
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Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 19:08
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Thats the internet Dhenna.
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 19:09
Thank God. |
Posted By: mistwalker
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 19:10
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 19:10
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Stormcrow, if you see this, can you move this drivel to the Bitter Sea where it now belongs? It's gone past political and is definitely not diplomatic. |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 19:13
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I highly advise all players who are warring against Knights Templar's to abandon this thread. All comments that are made to express why we're are fighting and the goals of the fighting are simply turned around and are purposely misinterpreted. Let's stop the battle in the forums and win the war in game. ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Sheogorath
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 19:19
+1 ------------- =Colonialism At Its Finest= |
Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 19:21
Fixed this one as well. |
Posted By: Sheogorath
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 19:23
Right.......... ------------- =Colonialism At Its Finest= |
Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 21:42
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Whats wrong with both alliances? They just keep complaining and asking for help everytime they get attacked, which before they said they wanted to fight alone. Also they have felt the need to try to shame other alliances to help them by saying stuff like "they are attacking the newbies in our alliance so you should help us". And now they are just talking BS about each other on the forums. I might just raze both leaders just to end this war, because it has gotten so darn annoying. So please now just fight this war yourselfs and stop complaing/crying for help/ talking BS about the other alliance on the fourms. |
Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 08 Jul 2011 at 22:15
I dare you to put your money with your mouth is. |
Posted By: Makanalani
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2011 at 06:11
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From a neutral stance, careful Jude. -Mak ------------- "Life is a beautiful struggle" -New IGN: Mak (Dark Blight) |
Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2011 at 07:48
Makanalani, I appreciate your concern, but in the face of a threat like Gemley's I am afraid I cannot. Here's how I see it in a nutshell, no one is forcing Gemley to read this rubbish and no one is sending armies or diplos at his city. Why is he so concerned with the affairs of a bunch of scrubs like us and Havoc? More importantly, why does he feel that he has the right to dictate to two alliances in this game how they should play? If he wants to wield that sort of dictatorial power, maybe pwning noobs in Evony is more to his tastes? This is an issue that is between KT and Havoc really. He has no business making the sort of threats he is making. I will gladly pull any troops I have directed at Havoc and do everything my grubby little paws can to thwart that sort of malice I just read above. I would do my best to convince Havoc to put aside our differences and meet this bullying head on. This is a game with essentially pixelated toy soldiers, If Gemley wants to kick in our sandcastles and actually follows through with his tough guy flexing, in the end, I haven't lost anything of real value. So why exactly do I need to be careful? |
Posted By: Makanalani
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2011 at 11:51
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Again the colorful language and free spirited candor Illy has come to love or hate. Do not worry Jude I come not to debate the rights or wrongs of the game mechanics or how the political spectrum should be played, rather just simple words. To be honest it's pretty interesting with you and KT around, creating a dichotomy and giving forums new life. However in your pursuit to create that diversity you seem to "ruffle the feathers" of other players. Thus my simple, "be careful Jude". No harm or threat intended. You can take it or leave it, just words from a vet. Good luck and happy continued hunting to both Havoc and Templar. -Mak ------------- "Life is a beautiful struggle" -New IGN: Mak (Dark Blight) |
Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2011 at 14:56
First, yes no one is forceing me to read this but how can I not when I keep hearing about it, this thread is impossible to ignore,every war topic is.
Second I am concerned because it seems like to me both alliances are trying to drag more and more people and alliances into this instead of actrull fighting. FYI my alliance is a small scrub right now to StJude.
Thridly I am not trying to dictate both alliances, also interesting how you are saying I am trying to dictate when a certain big alliance (skulls and bones) has entered the war for no apperant reason.
Lastly if this is a issue between Havoc and KT really why are you bringing other alliances and people into this, such as skulls and bones?
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Posted By: mistwalker
Date Posted: 09 Jul 2011 at 17:09
| I have never heard or seen anything that would suggest that KT has ever asked for help...Skull and Bones hasn't done squat in this war, no troops sent, why all the crying?? They just have a confed, what is the big deal? They are making sure other people don't interfere that should have nothing to do with the Havoc/KT war, sounds fair to me. Its not like Havoc hasn't tried to drag every "friend" alliance it can to help them, why aren't we making a big deal out of that? Those people actually HAVE sent troops to interfere with sieges, ect..... |