Oscar Nominations for best faux! and trolling LH
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Topic: Oscar Nominations for best faux! and trolling LH
Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Subject: Oscar Nominations for best faux! and trolling LH
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 13:49
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Recently Lionz Heartz produced a piece of alliance chat concerning an attack on Sellisa by mcrow, orchestrated by H? Many exchanges and arguments were had between myself and selissa that concerned and entertained many on GC.
I can now say that it was a Lie.
I had the idea whilst reading Lionz posts and feeling that it would be so simple to just pull of something so easy and so simple then make it a big deal, would then make Lionz feel like he was in control and winning, so i got together with Iduna, Selissa, the H? directors and scottfitz and got to work creating a big ol' lie  The rest, is as they say. History
A special mention for Llyorn and Scottfitz taking cameo roles on as angry and busted players.
Also a mention for Iduna, HonouredMule, Starry and kumo as the co.writers for the orchestrated events.
However a standing ovation for Selissa, our leading lady who played an outstanding victim who was angry,frustrated and confused. My thanks for he co-operation and how fun she made it for all as well :P
Oh but a real real big thankyou to Lionz Heartz for posting it and making himself look like a fool! Cheers mate, now everyone can laugh at you and no-one will believe your little posts ever again.
So all that is left to say is Hahah. Haha. Hah.ha  
------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart.
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 13:52
I'm seriously going to kick your ass for spelling my name wrong! :P
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 13:53
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I've been awaiting for that announcement. A well orchestrated performance.
ENCORE!!! 
------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either!
"Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 13:58
Manannan wrote:
I've been awaiting for that announcement. A well orchestrated performance.
ENCORE!!!  |
Thank you! *Bows* Thank you very much
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 13:58
Selissa wrote:
I'm seriously going to kick your ass for spelling my name wrong! :P |
Sorry BABE! ;) I corrected it now, always get those S's and L's the wrong way round!
Lots of Love! :P Babe!
------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart.
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 13:59
I can also say that we had LH completely fooled, as he private messaged me here on the forum, relaying our made-up story(Unknown to him, of course) to me, and saying how he had always been right about H?.
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 14:00
(EOM) Harry wrote:
Selissa wrote:
I'm seriously going to kick your ass for spelling my name wrong! :P |
Sorry BABE! ;) I corrected it now, always get those S's and L's the wrong way round!
Lots of Love! :P Babe! |
Thank you, babe ;)
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 16:50
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 16:58
Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:09
lol Harry and Selissa, there were some awkward moments in H? alliance chat when you guys were having it out on GC. H? members were shocked at the mention of any H? involvement (sorry guys, hope you understand now). Yes, Selissa deserves the award, well done.
*checks to see if halo is intact*
------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless?
"Truth never dies." -HonoredMule
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:14
Starry wrote:
lol Harry and Selissa, there were some awkward moments in H? alliance chat when you guys were having it out on GC. H? members were shocked at the mention of any H? involvement (sorry guys, hope you understand now). Yes, Selissa deserves the award, well done.
*checks to see if halo is intact*
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Yeah, a few guys in Curse were also pretty pissed at Harry for the way he was "treating" me. I must say I enjoyed playing the pissed victim ^^
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:17
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This is what LH wrote to me, while Harry and I were staging this. I hope everyone else gets as good a laugh out of it, as I did.
Subject: H? Sent: 15 Jun 2011 at 21:19 Sent by: http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/member_profile.asp?PF=715" rel="nofollow - Lionz Heartz Group: Forum Warrior  | H? http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/pm_buddy_list.asp?name=Lionz+Heartz" rel="nofollow - Add Buddy http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/pm_delete_message.asp?pm_id=1060&XID=f2c2ezdd" rel="nofollow - Delete http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/pm_new_message_form.asp?code=reply&pm=1060" rel="nofollow - Reply | Hello,
H? is planning to destroy Curse and Valar. How do I know this? A friend from one of the high ups in H? told me the whole plan.
H? apparently does not like how Curse and Valar has conducted themselves with their nippy attitude towards them.
That is why H? is working with mCrow right now to take Curse down and Valar as well. Even though I revealed the secret info from mCrow about said plans, the leadership still will follow through with it.
Just take what I just wrote as a gift. I have given your alliance fair warning of what will happen. It is up to you all to do what you please with this alliance information.
I told Iduna all along that H? is not to be trusted. She had better wake up now and realize what I said awhile back was the truth.
LH |
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:21
Well, the spy that gave me this info was more concerned about me giving the name of the 'real' spy in mCrow and more concerned about knowing my name in game than actually giving any type of real insider information about alliances.
Even though I was warned by another spy, I went ahead to do it anyway. The convo was real and was verified to be real by the other spy. However, the spy fealt it was too fake to be taken seriously.
So, I was always concerned about this said spy. The other spy in the alliance gave me warning of this said person and that put me in caution.
The fact it took a huge group effort to try to fool me is a bit sad to say the least. The fact I am in all of your heads and you need to try to make stuff up to bring the LH down is a bit sad.
So next time you want to join this spy brotherhood and sisterhood, you are going to actually feed me real information instead of creating stupid plans that will reveal my spies name and my in game name as well.
And for GM Stormcrow, it would be for your best interest if you take a neutral stance in this game or The_Dude may have been right about the devs favoring certain players in the game over others. It would not be the first time GMs have been corrupted.
So, to the player that gave me this info, you were always held in check. Until you actually gave me some insider information, maybe I would have started to trust you more.
Again I stand by the community being down right horrible, horrible enough to force disgruntled players to bring down their own alliance from within.
I normally try to avoid replying to many of these threads because the stupidity among most of these posters are beyond help and not worth my time debating with.
------------- HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related
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Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:21
Huh!? So does this mean we're NOT going to attack now?! Awww Poodle!
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:24
Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:
Huh!? So does this mean we're NOT going to attack now?! Awww Poodle!
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Aww, I'm sorry, Llyorn, I know how badly you wanted to wipe me off the map!
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:40
Lionz Heartz wrote:
And for GM Stormcrow, it would be for your best interest if you take a neutral stance in this game or The_Dude may have been right about the devs favoring certain players in the game over others. It would not be the first time GMs have been corrupted.
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If I were a GM, this would be the thread I would comment on. This thread more than any other demonstrates the layers and complexity that this game really has and is something I too would be extremely proud of. Not the actions in the thread, but the levels at which this game is being played. It's simply impressive to me what these guys have accomplished. Even you have to admit that, no?
My hats off to Harry and co., I am sorry LH, you got played on this one. This was well executed. Even I thought it was legit, as it appears others did too. Game over.
I suppose I am thankful for your previous posts though, I can't deny they were helpful. I know we tried to employ you to throw off Havoc Unleashed with some misinformation, but I think letting D'Shondallah in helped out in that regard anyway.
And this will probably be the extent of my conversation with you. Good luck I suppose.
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Posted By: Ryuuku
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:41
GM Stormcrow wrote:
/me loves this game |
SC comments on how much he loves that Illyriad is meeting its goals as a sandbox.
Lionz Heartz wrote:
And for GM Stormcrow, it would be for your
best interest if you take a neutral stance in this game or The_Dude may
have been right about the devs favoring certain players in the game over
others. It would not be the first time GMs have been corrupted.
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LH twists it all over the place, as per usual.
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Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:47
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I have to say though, it's very easy to have the convo revealed and then claim that you knew it was fake all along. I call for proof that you knew, and therefore you need a screenprint. Will you give us this? I doubt it.
PS: SC is just commenting on how he loves the sandbox game..... Jeez LH. You say you're a genius but actually you have very little knowledge.
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Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 17:48
I don't see where SC is taking sides, LH. *Wonders if LH will think twice about repeating convos from alliance chat* *shakes head* Nope, some people never learn. *rolls eyes*
lol Llyorn, you played this on GC so well. :D (he deserves an award too). Kudos to all it was well done guys. lmao Selissa
------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless?
"Truth never dies." -HonoredMule
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Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 18:04
If you think that I will stop posting in-game alliance information; YOU are wrong about that.
This MISSION of theirs was more about revealing the spy in their alliance and my account name in game. That was their mission and it failed. The fake spy, created this plan right after my spy revealed their alliance chat logs.
In all honesty, I feel I have won in this situation. I am in these group of players head so much, that they had to collaborate a mission that failed. All this mission proved was that the fake spy and the others involved in the OP's opening post are far more likely to lie about stuff than me.
I knew that the alliance chat was fake, I decided too reveal the info for the hell of it. Till the spy actually gave me some real info, perhaps things would have changed.
You see the fake spy told me he or she had some secret H? information on his PC that he or she saved. He or she told me this information would be given to me. I replied to say once I am given this information, I would reveal the spy name and perhaps my in-game name. Until the fake spy realized I would not just give up my in-game name or other spies name for the hell of it; he or she decided to make up an alliance chat spoof to once again see if this info would reveal the spies name and mine as well. The fake spy thought (LOL) this chat log would be insider enough for me reveal the said spies name (LOL again). But the spy was WRONG, I was still waiting for the other insider promised...
The mission the fake spy tried, failed. He or she had realized that I would never give up my in-game name or the other spies name (still was waiting for this H? insider info on your PC saved LOL). The fake spy proved to have no real insider information and gave up the mission to create this thread.
GM SC did take a side. But it is no shock that an elitist community that came from EVE, would react in the same breath as the H? alliance.
------------- HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related
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Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 18:26
Lionz Heartz wrote:
If you think that I will stop posting in-game alliance information; YOU are wrong about that.
This MISSION of theirs was more about revealing the spy in their alliance and my account name in game. That was their mission and it failed. The fake spy, created this plan right after my spy revealed their alliance chat logs.
In all honesty, I feel I have won in this situation. I am in these group of players head so much, that they had to collaborate a mission that failed. All this mission proved was that the fake spy and the others involved in the OP's opening post are far more likely to lie about stuff than me.
I knew that the alliance chat was fake, I decided too reveal the info for the hell of it. Till the spy actually gave me some real info, perhaps things would have changed.
You see the fake spy told me he or she had some secret H? information on his PC that he or she saved. He or she told me this information would be given to me. I replied to say once I am given this information, I would reveal the spy name and perhaps my in-game name. Until the fake spy realized I would not just give up my in-game name or other spies name for the hell of it; he or she decided to make up an alliance chat spoof to once again see if this info would reveal the spies name and mine as well. The fake spy thought (LOL) this chat log would be insider enough for me reveal the said spies name (LOL again). But the spy was WRONG, I was still waiting for the other insider promised...
The mission the fake spy tried, failed. He or she had realized that I would never give up my in-game name or the other spies name (still was waiting for this H? insider info on your PC saved LOL). The fake spy proved to have no real insider information and gave up the mission to create this thread.
GM SC did take a side. But it is no shock that an elitist community that came from EVE, would react in the same breath as the H? alliance. |
loser *coughs*
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Posted By: Dhenna
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 18:31
GM Stormcrow wrote:
/me loves this game |
Excuse me, but how is this taking sides? Looks to me like Windypigeon is only enjoying the game and meta-game ongoings?
He is just a spectator applauding a good performance.
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Posted By: Dhenna
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 18:35
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Also, brilliantly played, all of you (especially LoJ with his "I need to talk to a Curse member NOW!", "Any Curse members on atm???", "Harry, I'm not happy with you at all!" in Global.
/applaud
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 18:36
Dhenna wrote:
Also, brilliantly played, all of you (especially LoJ with his "I need to talk to a Curse member NOW!", "Any Curse members on atm???", "Harry, I'm not happy with you at all!" in Global.
/applaud |
Yeah, I loved that one too!
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 18:41
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I have removed the content of this post as this thread is no longer a laughing matter
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Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:04
Lionz Heartz wrote:
And for GM Stormcrow, it would be for your best interest if you take a neutral stance in this game or The_Dude may have been right about the devs favoring certain players in the game over others. It would not be the first time GMs have been corrupted.
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I'm not taking any sides whatsoever and had no idea that this whole thing was going on - contrary to popular belief I'm not omniscient and don't have time to read most of what is posted in the forums, nor do I (or any other dev) spend any time whatsoever on the intricacies of inter-alliance politics. We don't, frankly, care about the detail in any way whatsoever; it's of supreme disinterest to us.
There will always be tinfoilers who read GM involvement into anything and everything we do or so - my comment signifies nothing more than that I love the meta-game (regardless of where it comes from) and I believe that the newly revealed existence of a concerted cross-alliance disinformation programme shows a lot about the depth of gameplay available in Illyriad.
Regarding those players who believe devs favour certain players in the game and are corruptible, may I suggest that you save all of us some time and quit Illyriad now?
There's nothing we'll ever be able to say or do that'll convince you otherwise, and the minute we feel that irrational and unsubstantiated accusations of this nature are being thrown around to the detriment of the game as a whole, we're simply going to start banning the players making them.
Regards,
SC
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Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:07
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Ok ban me [EDIT: Inappropriate Language Removed by SC]! I do not need this community at all and keep on making threads about me, never liked you GM SC and your EVE community.
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Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:22
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Well said.
EDIT: I posted this before I could see LH's comment. I meant my Well Said to SC, DEFINITELY not LH's little strop.
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Posted By: StJude
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:26

Well played Harry and Co. I do believe we just heard the death knell of LH.
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Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:40
Lionz Heartz wrote:
Ok ban me [EDIT: Inappropriate Language Removed by SC]! I do not need this community at all and keep on making threads about me, never liked you GM SC and your EVE community.
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Hi LH,
If you'd like to close your Illyriad accounts, please open a Petition requesting deletion and it'll get actioned. If you'd also like to close your forum account, please let us know as well.
Regards, SC
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Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:40
GM Stormcrow wrote:
Regarding those players who believe devs favour certain players in the game and are corruptible, may I suggest that you save all of us some time and quit Illyriad now?
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Couldn't have put it better myself SC 
------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either!
"Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude
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Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:43
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On a different note, I must have to tell you off SC. You have started to use Blue, which is TC's color!
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Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:43
GM Stormcrow wrote:
Lionz Heartz wrote:
And for GM Stormcrow, it would be for your best interest if you take a neutral stance in this game or The_Dude may have been right about the devs favoring certain players in the game over others. It would not be the first time GMs have been corrupted.
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I'm not taking any sides whatsoever and had no idea that this whole thing was going on - contrary to popular belief I'm not omniscient and don't have time to read most of what is posted in the forums, nor do I (or any other dev) spend any time whatsoever on the intricacies of inter-alliance politics. We don't, frankly, care about the detail in any way whatsoever; it's of supreme disinterest to us.
There will always be tinfoilers who read GM involvement into anything and everything we do or so - my comment signifies nothing more than that I love the meta-game (regardless of where it comes from) and I believe that the newly revealed existence of a concerted cross-alliance disinformation programme shows a lot about the depth of gameplay available in Illyriad.
Regarding those players who believe devs favour certain players in the game and are corruptible, may I suggest that you save all of us some time and quit Illyriad now?
There's nothing we'll ever be able to say or do that'll convince you otherwise, and the minute we feel that irrational and unsubstantiated accusations of this nature are being thrown around to the detriment of the game as a whole, we're simply going to start banning the players making them.
Regards,
SC |
I am sorry Stormcrow but by any stretch of the imagination this is a flawed response. Quite simply you should not have commented. Metagaming is for the players to attempt and for the GM's/ Moderator's to control in impartial way. Moreover it is questionable whether an impartial observer should show admiration for the disingenuous nature of Metagaming as it can, if taken to far, have a detrimental affect on players and the games reputation.
You are, of course, a charismatic GM, whose every word is taken on trust by the player base and especially by the younger members of the community, who hold you high regard and are greatly influenced by your views. You will know that when appreciative comments or decisions are open to interpretation on issues where opinions are divided - the best course of action is not to make them at all.
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Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:44
GM Stormcrow wrote:
Lionz Heartz wrote:
And for GM Stormcrow, it would be for your best interest if you take a neutral stance in this game or The_Dude may have been right about the devs favoring certain players in the game over others. It would not be the first time GMs have been corrupted.
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I'm not taking any sides whatsoever and had no idea that this whole thing was going on - contrary to popular belief I'm not omniscient and don't have time to read most of what is posted in the forums, nor do I (or any other dev) spend any time whatsoever on the intricacies of inter-alliance politics. We don't, frankly, care about the detail in any way whatsoever; it's of supreme disinterest to us.
There will always be tinfoilers who read GM involvement into anything and everything we do or so - my comment signifies nothing more than that I love the meta-game (regardless of where it comes from) and I believe that the newly revealed existence of a concerted cross-alliance disinformation programme shows a lot about the depth of gameplay available in Illyriad.
Regarding those players who believe devs favour certain players in the game and are corruptible, may I suggest that you save all of us some time and quit Illyriad now?
There's nothing we'll ever be able to say or do that'll convince you otherwise, and the minute we feel that irrational and unsubstantiated accusations of this nature are being thrown around to the detriment of the game as a whole, we're simply going to start banning the players making them.
Regards,
SC |

Edit: Aneirin, SC's comment was about the level of play in the game, I think you are readng too much into his comment. The Devs have always gone out of their way to avoid commenting on any conflict or controversy in this game. I applaud them for not taking sides and altering public opinion. Geez, guys lighten up.
------------- CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless?
"Truth never dies." -HonoredMule
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Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:48
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OK, one little suggestion for the world. This game was made by StormCrow, and ThunderCat. Aneirin and Lionz Heartz, you are players who have decided that you don't like the way that SC makes the game. The obvious course of action would be to GO PLAY EVONY! Leave the people who actually like the game for what it is- a SANDBOX- to play the game!
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Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 19:59
Hang on,
We all know the Devs love me to pieces, how else did i get my hands on two elemental s? They obviously intervened. 
------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 20:02
GM Stormcrow wrote:
Hi LH,
If you'd like to close your Illyriad accounts, please open a Petition requesting deletion and it'll get actioned. If you'd also like to close your forum account, please let us know as well.
Regards, SC
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Noooo! Don't give him time to think it over! =P
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Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 20:15
Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 20:23
Aneirin wrote:
Metagaming is for the players to attempt and for the GM's/ Moderator's to control in impartial way. |
Utterly disagree with this statement. This game is designed to encourage intrigue and metagaming. The GM's are not here to "control" it. If you want something like that you are in the wrong game.
Meanwhile the GM's should be proud that the game is evolving in the ways that they hoped and should be allowed to express that pride especially when they do it without reference to or judgment of the specific parties involved - as happened here.
BTW - if you really are against metagaming then you should be arguing against LH's actions from the start - they are what lead to the counter-actions against him/her/it.
KP
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Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 20:54
Aneirin wrote:
Quite simply you should not have commented. |
I will close the company the day I cannot - in my own game's forums - take a moment to narcissistically admire the design that allows players to collaboratively amuse themselves within the rules of a sandbox game.
Aneirin wrote:
Metagaming is for the players to attempt and for the GM's/ Moderator's to control in impartial way. |
Unless it infracts the rules, it's absolutely not for us to "control" or even monitor.
Do you honestly think we spend any time whatsoever keeping up with who did what to whom? The internal politics of the game are a complete mystery to us - we have neither time nor inclination to look at metagame issues because we're working on core functionality and content.
When a metagame surfaces in the forum, as this one did, sure we're delighted with it.
What game company wouldn't be delighted when a band of disparate people from different alliances cook up some cute metagame disinformation strategy to attempt to make a self-confessed spy and metagamer look silly? We all think that's great!
If you can't see the difference between "GMs taking pleasure in seeing people play the game in an interesting way" and "ebil GMs taking sides" then I'm pretty sure that you might find that you will get more enjoyment out of playing a different game.
Aneirin wrote:
Moreover it is questionable whether an impartial observer should show admiration for the disingenuous nature of Metagaming as it can, if taken to far, have a detrimental affect on players and the games reputation. |
We've always been supportive of the metagame in Illyriad, have always said so, and many of the game mechanics are deliberately designed to support the metagame.
Much more damaging to Illyriad and the games' reputation has been our far-too-lenient attitude towards trolls and trolling in global chat and in the forums.
A very wise man (/me huggles Beau) at massively.com once wrote a tip guide for Independent Games companies writing games, where one of his Top 10 tips is as follows:
A very wise man wrote:
Take care of the trolls. I love Derek Smart, truly. My fandom has never had anything to do with any of his past history or reputation as a troublemaker back in the day. Frankly, I couldn't care less about how mad he made you 10 years ago. All I care about is that he is now showing that he knows how to help a game go forward and has more projects on the way. Also, he takes care of trolls. If they cause trouble on the Alganon forums, he takes care of it, sometimes letting the troll know exactly how he or she is wrong. Gamers are great at dishing out mounds of hate at their favorite enemy developers, but as soon as they are silenced or booted out of the conversation, they claim victimhood. Do your community a favor and take care of the trolls who are ruining your forums. If you are that afraid of losing one player, you might consider how many you have lost because you let that troll control your boards.
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On Beau's advice I looked up Derek Smart's posts and policies on trolls and the way he deals with them on the Alganon forums, and I hope he won't mind if I quote him here, as this is going to become our policy going forward:
Derek Smart wrote:
There are gamers who care and then there are anti-social misfits who act out their angst at anything they can lash out at. Me, I have no problems banning people who are rude and who don't offer anything constructive. And by the time the dust settles, all we will be left with are those who follow the rules and who care about the game enough to be constructive in their postings and thus help up move the game forward. Nothing else matters and I simply don't care about anything or anyone outside of that user base. And that's why I keep the company funded, keep it going and continue guiding the team so that we can stay on track.
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Two very sensible people speaking a lot of sense, in our opinion.
And here in the Kingdom of Illyria, with the best will in the world and all due respect to every single person who chooses to share their opinions in the forums, it's our opinion that really matters.
Regards,
SC
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Posted By: Iduna
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 20:58
(EOM) Harry wrote:
So all that is left to say is Hahah. Haha. Hah.ha  
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Oh yeah !
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Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 21:25
GM Stormcrow wrote:
I will close the company the day I cannot - in my own game's forums - take a moment to narcissistically admire the design that allows players to collaboratively amuse themselves within the rules of a sandbox game. |

GM Stormcrow wrote:
Do you honestly think we spend any time whatsoever keeping up with who did what to whom? The internal politics of the game are a complete mystery to us - we have neither time nor inclination to look at metagame issues because we're working on core functionality and content. When a metagame surfaces in the forum, as this one did, sure we're delighted with it. What game company wouldn't be delighted when a band of disparate people from different alliances cook up some cute metagame disinformation strategy to attempt to make a self-confessed spy and metagamer look silly? We all think that's great! If you can't see the difference between "GMs taking pleasure in seeing people play the game in an interesting way" and "ebil GMs taking sides" then I'm pretty sure that you might find that you will get more enjoyment out of playing a different game. |

GM Stormcrow wrote:
Much more damaging to Illyriad and the games' reputation has been our far-too-lenient attitude towards trolls and trolling in global chat and in the forums. |

Bravo n' here here.
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Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 21:54
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Wow. Lionz. Did you just...? I think he just did....? Didn't he...? Have to reply fully in anger and annoyance? Did he just feel how we felt? Did Lionz....Surely not?
Did Lionz Heartz get trolled? Oh Sir i thought you would be better competition that!
------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart.
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Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 22:09
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37 users all viewing the forums waiting for the next posts in this drama.
Well you'll have to wait a bit longer cos I'm busy with a well known football manager browser game lol
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Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 22:17
^ Thinks he's centre of this LOL, Aneirin no-one actually cares what you think! Wer'e all just laughing at LH blowing up by himself!
------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart.
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Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 22:24
If LH is gone does that make Ane Queen Troll now?
------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either!
"Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 22:33
By the way, I'm sorely disappointed that we didn't get out own DDD thread... I think we deserved it ^^
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 22:50
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SAAAAAAAME!
By the way guy's, Me and Selissa are going out now :) K!
------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart.
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Posted By: Selissa
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 22:52
(EOM) Harry wrote:
SAAAAAAAME!
By the way guy's, Me and Selissa are going out now :) K! |
I saw that you wrote to Dhenna on GC! I'm totally dumping you now!
------------- Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 22:56
Cyber Dating 101, don't talk to another fine thing when your fine thing
is right in the chat room, we'll be back with more cyber dating 101 tips
after the break.
------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin
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Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2011 at 23:59
romance is blossoming in the bitter sea?
finding common ground, enjoying trolling the troll?
I knew romance wasn't dead. ^^
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Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2011 at 01:49
Createure wrote:
finding common ground
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He He He Illyriad pun. 
------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM)
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Posted By: Ander
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2011 at 08:18
Createure wrote:
finding common ground
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lolsomeness! xD
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Posted By: Belthazor
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2011 at 10:22
[/QUOTE] - contrary to popular belief I'm not omniscient Regards,
SC [/QUOTE]
Time for me to find a new Illy God to worship... Maybe Nok, the Lucernian Leprechaun 
Also, bravo Harry. Never thought you could troll the troll but I should know better. After all,you dumped me on GC for a newbie troll and he did shut up.
------------- We work in the Dark to serve the Light
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Posted By: Smoking GNU
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2011 at 10:41
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Mmmhm, haven't seen LH post any drivel yet here again. Oh Wherefore art thou oh most fabulous and unrepentant Troll Lord?
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Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2011 at 10:49
I destroyed him, no troll can take my POWER!
------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart.
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Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2011 at 22:43
GM Stormcrow wrote:
Aneirin wrote:
Quite simply you should not have commented. |
I will close the company the day I cannot - in my own game's forums - take a moment to narcissistically admire the design that allows players to collaboratively amuse themselves within the rules of a sandbox game...
...And here in the Kingdom of Illyria, with the best will in the world and all due respect to every single person who chooses to share their opinions in the forums, it's our opinion that really matters.
Regards,
SC |
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2011 at 23:10
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I don't know what the point of this video was but black demons are a massive waste of money, especially when you use pray pots on them.
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Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 00:22
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/me lol'ed at the video, but personally would have chosen the incomparable:
SC
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Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 00:43
Incomparable indeed. He did another version which is on the CD "HQ" and features David Gilmour which is every bit as powerful as the vid you chose. 
Here endeth etc.
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Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 03:58
So I'm here in this thread for the first time.
EDIT: Finished reading it, very entertaining.
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