StA vs S&B
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Topic: StA vs S&B
Posted By: Akura
Subject: StA vs S&B
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 03:30
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First, some history. Many months ago(if my memory is correct, which in this case I believe it fully is), we received unwarranted attacks from an upstart alliance named The Rough Riders, who were allied with Skulls & Bones. Diplomacy failed, and the fighting afterwards could be described as delivering a "severe asskicking" to TRR and S&B. TRR was assimilated into a sister alliance, Armok's Rough Riders, and S&B surrendered under conditions of disarmament and ending hostilites under threat of annihilation. After taking a short leave of absence due to issues in real life(which I could go on for hours about. The Bay12 forum has much of it chronicled), I find that I and other prominent members of StA have suffered heavy attacks with no provocation and little warning. It appears they have Prestiged up their cities, and their attacks are in violation of the terms of their original surrender. As our dwarves say, it's time to Pull the Lever. ------------- Helping people out in hard times - even when you don't like them - sometimes brings good karma from the wheel of life. Not often, but sometimes. Anyway. Here's 220 Iron. |
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Posted By: Zork2012
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 04:12
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We never liked the way things ended. our alliance was dissolved, we were forced to join other alliances, we were treated like dogs for the most part and we waited. we have rekindled hostilities to avenge those that are no longer here to do so. Snakie10009, Dapaba, i could go on.
The start of the first war was due to Noryasha Grunk. He/she was endlessly atacking a noob alliance. when we finally had enough we fought back and lost. we were sieged to no end. we lost many cities. we are back and we are ready to fight.
Get your popcorn ready and enjoy the spectacle.
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Posted By: LordOfTheSwamp
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 07:35
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Hey - a war that both sides actually seem to be up for? And the sides look evenly matched! Cool. So long as the bigger guys can resist the temptation to pick on each others' small/defenseless players, this is the sort of drama that we want! I have popcorn, and await.... ------------- "A boy is building sandcastles on a beach. You go and kick down his castle. You could say that it only reflects how you play with sandcastles. Others may think it reflects who you are." - Ander. |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 08:01
| Sounds like a fair argument from both parties,I agree lets get it on and may the best alliance win.There doesn't have to be a wrong and a right always,sometimes it's just 2 differing opinions that collide, good luck to both. |
Posted By: Makanalani
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 08:18
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I agree with all that is said. Fight with honor, and do not lose your wits. -Mak------------- "Life is a beautiful struggle" -New IGN: Mak (Dark Blight) |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 09:09
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Combat results so far: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=58639.690 Also, S&B is in trouble once the people on the island get to them. Stormlord's gonna get beat up a bit but that's what friends are for, right? |
Posted By: Akura
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 12:34
The initial conflict with the people Nory was attacking had been resolved, but your attacks did not stop from there. That is why we curbstomped you so. And as far as not liking the result, well, yeah, you lost, that's sort of the whole point. ------------- Helping people out in hard times - even when you don't like them - sometimes brings good karma from the wheel of life. Not often, but sometimes. Anyway. Here's 220 Iron. |
Zork2012 wrote:Posted By: Sgt..Shanks
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 13:14
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Posted By: Sgt..Shanks
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 13:15
dumb boxes!
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Posted By: Sgt..Shanks
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 13:16
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have sent you stuff.. No clue whether Urgorr can help.. have to mail direct though.. Good luck! EDIT.. NO X! ;) |
Posted By: Darkwords
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 13:17
Clearly it was not from their point of view. |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 13:43
| Thanks Sgt. Shanks, I appreciate it. |
Posted By: Zork2012
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 16:19
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as Darkwords clearly points out, not from our perspective.
the definition of a cease fire is, " time out, i need more troops"
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Posted By: Kilotov of DokGthung
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 16:41
well well. dont beg them to stop their siege weapons next time, or you will lose face ....and towns to |
Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 18:24
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Any other possible case study for Darwin's survival of the fittest... I shall watch on with interest. ------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either! "Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 21:40
*Cough* *Cough* Treaty of versailles*Cough**Cough*
;) ;)
We'l be having you Germans, we'l be having you ;) ------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart. |
Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 23:07
Weren't you caught relentlessly stealing from a new player not that long ago? |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 23:19
I guess that makes Zork a hypocrite then. ------------- HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related |
Posted By: Zork2012
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2011 at 00:20
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was i caught stealing, yes. relentlessly, no. 1 wave of attacks. i sent a few to an entire alliance. i have my reasons for it. good bad or indifferent. not really the same as sieging several players out of the game though. call me a hypocrite if you will (and i know you will) i too see the hypocracy.
i think most of us are guilty of hypocracy from time to time. we ( the illy community ) preach how noobs should be protected from aggresive players. while threatening a smaller player with disastrous attacks if they step out of line again. how many of those bullies have in turn been bullied out of the game? yet you justify the latter. there is very little difference.
along the same lines, i see veteran players doleing out resources every day and then wonder why noob alliances pop up and attack each other. maybe if we (the illy community) held back on those resources and forced the noobs to grow slow and appreciate what they have, we would all be better for it.
i know its hard to do, stopping helping the noobs. it makes us feel good and lets face it most of us have more resources than we know whaat to do with. we need to stop just giving. i saw a noob the other day asking for resources wh had a lv 14 storehouse! this is not someone who needs resources. i understand the desire but we need to practice self conttroll.
i know, rich coming from a guy who waited almost 6 months to strike back at his sworn nemesis. in a way though that too was self controll.
which brings me back to the thefts. this noob alliance was begging for resoures daily. then they were crying everytime somebody attacked them with diplos. the community would send more and then more attacks and then more crying. well, i'll tell you this. when you annouce in global what you can hold and somebody tells you when its going to arrive dont be shocked when it gets stolen, especially from a noob as they have no defences. they didnt work for it, they didn earn it. they did nothing and yet they can afford to start an alliance? whose fault is it when they have no respect for veteran players? thier only allegence is to the next provider and when those resources are gone so too is thier loyalty.
thats all i have to say about that.
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2011 at 02:15
lol, why rebuild yourself just to be crushed again? You guys are freakin hilarious!!!! 
------------- http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Profile?gamertag=G0DsDestroyer" rel="nofollow - Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 02:46
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Funnily enough, the fact that the troll likes Zork is enough for me to like their opponent! |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 11:54
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StA has found another reason for the Illy public to dislike S&B. I didn't mention this earlier except on GC to which Borg quickly jumped on to reply to, so I imagine it's a kink in their plan. CURSE has been infiltrated by S&B and Iduna has not been online for the past two or three days. I'm guessing the S&B plant (Roller) was happily requesting resources from CURSE and sending them to S&B. Why do I make this claim? FW: Theft Mission to Wales Completely Successful! Sent By: Stormlord [StA] Received By: You Date: 6/18/2011 10:45:49 AM Yo, the CURSE player is loaded > FW: Theft Mission to Wales Completely Successful! > Received: 18 Jun 2011 09:39 > Original Message: Operation From: Stormwald Stormlord [StA] Operation Against: Wales at [-207|184] in Meilla roller [Curse] Operation Type: Theft Operation Outcome: Completely Successful! Mission Report: Your diplomatic mission was undetected and completed the objective! Your units are on their way home, safe and sound. Resources Stolen: Type: Stolen: [Barrels of Beer] 21842 [Bows] 34352 [Suits of Leather Armour] 6556 [Suits of Plate Armour] 12250 |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 11:56
| Roller is the lone CURSE player assisting S&B, as GodsDestroyer will attest to. |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 13:03
| Wow! Can we call this Illy's own little Watergate scandal.Great pick up Stormlord, enjoying the entertainment so far |
Posted By: Iduna
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 13:10
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Let me confirm that Curse will not be involved in the S&B vs StA war. roller is acting on his own terms and as long as GodsDestroyer will face roller alone it will stay this way. (for a little feeling in the roller issue, he is also a former S&B member but choose not to re-join them to fight this war)
Lets keep this fight a fair one. |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 13:24
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GD was a paid mercenary by StA, if he'd like to fight Roller that's fine with me, but if the fight is solely instigated by Roller I at least will have to support GD as he was simply a mercenary recruited from Global chat and I can't let an honest mercenary be attacked for being an honest mercenary. EDIT: By that I mean if GD wants a 1-1, by all means, but if he doesn't then I'll help him Also, good to see you back Iduna |
Posted By: Baughb
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 13:36
| any mercenary should know that there are risks outside of the actual job. people tend to frown upon an interloper fighting for money and may seek retribution |
Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 13:55
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It's all getting a little Mafia lately,
"Hey,wack that guy. Send them a messsage." ------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart. |
Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 14:05
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This looks like a complicated political situation to me. StA and S&B are at war. Curse and S&B have a confed, but Iduna states that Curse want no part of in the war which is fair enough. Roller from Curse though as a former S&B member wants to aid his former alliance, but doesn't want to leave the safety of Curse? So now a mercenary for StA in the form of G0DsDestroyer is going after Roller.... Are you all keeping up with this? I think I just went cross-eyed!  It actually sounds like it could be a half decent screen play though. Wonder if I can sell the rights to FOX... they'll buy anything after all. ------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either! "Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 14:07
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GD was only hired to clear the siege camps, not to attack Roller's cities. It seemed quite reasonable as we had a CURSE member among the attacking. EDIT: Make my actor Gary Busey EDIT2: Or is he dead without me realizing? EDIT3: No, alive |
Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 14:18
He who hires The EEJIT truly needs his bumps felt.
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 15:51
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Well I never attacked roller, all I've done is break sieges(only 3 of them, at this point), and in the siege armies I've destroyed, there haven't been any of roller's troops, to my knowledge. S&B would be better off just attacking, then i wouldn't have gotten involved. ------------- http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Profile?gamertag=G0DsDestroyer" rel="nofollow - Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin |
Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 18:51
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Damn so close... But I nearly got it. Do I still get an ice cream? ------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either! "Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 19:28
| Gods, which of your accounts are involved in this? G0DsDestroyer or GODsDestroyer? |
Posted By: Akura
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 22:06
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I found another interesting bit earlier this morning. sn0w, whom is currently moving to siege one of my cities, was in S&B last August, moved over to [Curse] in September, then switched back to S&B just 10 days ago. ------------- Helping people out in hard times - even when you don't like them - sometimes brings good karma from the wheel of life. Not often, but sometimes. Anyway. Here's 220 Iron. |
Posted By: Iduna
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 23:10
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If you look close 45% of the S&B members were originally in S&B, moved to Curse (when S&B disbanded) and now moved back to S&B 10 days ago. All were S&B players during the first war, so they clearly have a mission. |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2011 at 04:17
| Lets not ping only GODS for getting involved,I'm sure he's aware of the implications of his involvement,but also anyone else who chooses the get involved is subject to the same implications.Iduna makes a fair point,lets keep things fair, neither side is crying foul really and it has so far been quite an honourable battle if thats possible. |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 01:09
Ahh, I get it then. What you are saying is that CURSE is openly assisting another alliance to crush a much smaller one. |
Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 01:41
| If they left CURSE and rejoined S&B, how exactly is that CURSE assisting them? |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 01:57
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By giving them enough gold that 1.5k adv elven scouts can't scout their cities due to scout defense while still having a very large army. By sheltering them while they build enormous armies, and supplying the resources and gold. All of these have been proven. In addition, use common sense. While it's easy to claim to want a fair fight on a forums to look better to the public, would you really want the people who were in your alliance for the past six months to risk losing to a smaller alliance? Imagine how that would make you look. EDIT: Scout Mission to The Collective Failed! Sent By: System Received By: You Date: 6/17/2011 5:22:55 PM Operation From: Magma Bait You Operation Against: The Collective at [-126|140] in Norweld Borg [S & B] Operation Type: Scout Operation Outcome: Failed! Mission Report: Your diplomatic mission was detected and failed to complete the objective. Despite being under observation, your excellent units managed to give the enemy's counter-intelligence agents the slip, and are safely on their way home. Above is what happened when I sent a whole LOT of scouts. EDIT2: Yes, scouts are cheap. We can't spy or assasinate either though, and assassins aren't cheap. |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 02:12
How? Where? |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 02:26
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I posted a FW from Stormlord where he took 75k adv resources from the CURSE player that didn't leave CURSE to join S&B yet was still sending armies at StA (while they were still in CURSE, it was Roller) As far as sheltering while they built large armies, they only left CURSE about two weeks ago as Iduna said. They can't have built the armies sent in two weeks. There were over 35 siege engines going on Akura's cities, stacked with many thousand cavalry. Stormlord had a similar force sent to him but luckily it arrived piecemeal and was picked apart. As for supplying the gold, how else could they possibly be paying for that many troops and diplos? Stormlord is our richest player and most active merchant, was constantly involved with the market since the first day, and told us he only has about 20 million. Now, I was in the first tournament and burned through a lot of gold with a moderate sized army. I suppose they do have larger cities than I do, but I don't get where it hurts CURSE to have sent S&B gold as they were already in their alliance. I don't see anything wrong with it, as I always supply my new alliance members; except S&B is using it to attack StA, which is smaller than both CURSE (by far) and S&B as far as active players large enough to be able to produce enough numbers of troops. EDIT: I should say 35 on both of Akura's cities (for a total of 70), as well as another bunch of siege on Stormlord, I think 35 there as well though it may have been 45. |
Posted By: Zork2012
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 03:14
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duuvian - because you dont understand how we are better traders than you are isnt our fault. maybe this wasnt a spur of the moment idea. maybe we have fought in many wars with our previous alliances, or still maybe we only had to make the siege weapons before we attacked. we are all previous Skull and Bones, we talk from time to time. as you can see it still took some time to get it together again. stormlord didnt go as well as planned, akura went better, 1 win , 1loss and 1 yet to be determined |
Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 04:47
Common sense isn't common. Anyway, I really couldn't care less how I look in this game, so maybe this is why I fail to see why it would matter.
How is that relevant? Are the armies you built only two weeks old? Did you guys only start building troops when you got into the war? Everyone should have had their troops maxed out before the war, or at least close to it.
Who sends cavs to defend? They're practically asking to be wiped out... |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 08:50
| No doubt S&B have planned their assault, so whether Curse aided them in the lead up or not is irrelevant. S&B are fighting on their terms as planned, it's now probably at a point for STA to make a strategic decision or 2 before things become untennable. |
Posted By: Leungarific
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 03:52
So basically Duuvian, you feel that the only way you wouldn't get involved is if GD was the aggressor? What if someone decides that they'll support Roller if GD crushes even one unit of his? Where would you stand then? Would you still come running to GD's support if Roller received backup? Would you start involving other alliances in this conflict? As GD said, there were no troops belonging to Roller in the armies he destroyed. Could you provide definitive proof of Roller's involvement in the sieges, or was Stormlord simply seeking to find an excuse to rob a CURSE player? |
Posted By: Silent/Steadfast
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 03:58
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Who's winning? I can't tell because of all the arguing.... ------------- "Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM) |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 07:57
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I'll post a report in a moment, I'm afraid I have some very sad news and I'm very unhappy right now. This is a quote from Akura from the B12 forums. He quoted an earlier message of mine: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=58639.msg2370286#msg2370286" rel="nofollow - Quote from: Duuvian on June 19, 2011, 09:42:59 pm Also, Akura, if you read this, got some news for you that you'll want to read in your message box. Very important.To be honest, I don't really care anymore. With my capital taken, another city razed completely, and a third close to suffering either fate, over a year's worth time investment in this game is lost. You can do whatever you want. |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 08:40
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for the forums Sent By: Stormlord [StA] Received By: You Date: 6/21/2011 8:38:40 AM here duuvian show them this System Reinforcements from naivuud have arrived at Stormwald 21 Jun 2011 00:59 System Reinforcements from Noryasha Grunk have arrived at Stormwald 20 Jun 2011 23:11 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 20 Jun 2011 10:18 System Reinforcements from Alexwazer have arrived at Stormwald 20 Jun 2011 01:01 System Reinforcements from duuvian have arrived at Stormwald 19 Jun 2011 21:05 System Failed Sally at Square -27|-313 by Akura's forces from Ragmurder 19 Jun 2011 02:43 System Reinforcements from Akhier have arrived at Stormwald 19 Jun 2011 00:51 System Your reinforcements for Ragmurder (Akura) have arrived 18 Jun 2011 22:23 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 18 Jun 2011 09:51 System Reinforcements from Alexwazer have arrived at Stormwald 18 Jun 2011 09:09 System Your reinforcements for Stormwald (Stormlord) have arrived 17 Jun 2011 17:40 System Reinforcements from Stormlord have arrived at Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 17:40 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 10:15 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 07:00 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 02:20 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 00:24 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:53 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:43 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:24 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:21 From Subject Date System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:06 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 22:24 System Army Defenders destroyed 16 Jun 2011 21:57 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Ifestion's forces from Alexandria 16 Jun 2011 21:57 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 21:24 System Reinforcements from Stormlord have arrived at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 21:19 System Your reinforcements for Stormwald (Stormlord) have arrived 16 Jun 2011 21:19 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 20:24 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 19:24 System Army Raiders destroyed 16 Jun 2011 18:40 System Failed attack against G0DsDestroyer's forces at Square -334|-67 by Stormlord's forces from Pope Threetoe's Basilica 16 Jun 2011 18:40 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 18:28 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 18:24 System Bombardment of Stormwald belonging to Stormlord begins! 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Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 09:03
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In addition, my reinforcements to Akura's capital finally arrive in 4hr, 5m from this post so I'll see what happens when former reinforcements land on a now hostile city. I'll post the results here for science's sake. Maybe they'll fight for 14 days  |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 09:15
We didn't lose a war, shelter in other alliances, and then reform to attack the victor, though? I don't understand how you think the two alliances are in the same situation? There are not just two sides or teams like in sports. There are actual people coming from two different backgrounds. That is why what I said is relevant. Illyriad is perhaps the most strategic sport in existence if you view it in such a fashion. EDIT: And yes, we were totally blindsided by this blitzkrieg. It's crazy how much like WW1 to Versaille to WW2 this is. Except we were more fair than Versaille since real life has more depth than even Illyriad. So don't feel bad for them on that aspect. We offered to find them new alliances after they broke a peace agreement we had with them the first time and we won the resulting war. We did this to prevent this exact situation of fighting a third time, ironically, as the only alternative was to siege every last one out of the game after the first time the peace was broken. EDIT2: Besides if they had asked nicely we would have happily fought under terms like no city destruction and no raiding new players or something. |
Posted By: Zork2012
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 14:31
| close but no cigar. there was never a cease fire in the first war, we were talking about peace and wham we are being sieged. we fought with all we could but we were unable to siege ourselves. so i see it as only fair that we blitz krieg 'd you guys.(my army is actually named Blitz Krieg) |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 09:50
| Ah. I see. It all hinged upon the word of a now inactive player. |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 11:12
| Just out of interest, who is winning at the moment? |
Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2011 at 12:26
| i didnt know this war was still going on. i guess i could make a profit form selling to both sides through |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 03:39
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The war is concluded, as StA is willing to declare victory to S&B in that their blitzkrieg was indeed successful in causing sufficient unanswered damage to StA to qualify as victory yet in a way that StA sees no gain in trying to reclaim what was taken, especially when our newly built troops know there is a tournament ongoing. For now there is a cease fire between StA and S&B which will only be broken by prior warning. In agreement with zork2010, leader of S&B, I've released StA's inactive players per his specific request. We were holding them for our newest wave of players to capture the choicest of cities and I will have to insist that he leave at least one 10k+ city for Folly to capture, a new player who devoted his growth to barracks in pursuit of capturing the largest cities from our largest inactives. Currently, someone (I assume S&B although one camp is neutral) is sieging the largest of the inactive cities of their own initiative, so I'll have to request here in public as well as in the messages I sent zork for S&B or whoever to leave one 10k+ population city out of the several available for Folly of StA to capture in order to reciprocate on our releasing the inactives in the first place. I'm assuming the neutral camp is Roller, which is fine I guess     , but scouts are headed there just in case. |
Posted By: Shaharet
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 05:19
This is basically the motivation for WWII, amongst the German people. Not the psychotic lunatics at the top, the people themselves who one must admit had something of a legitimate gripe. This should be interesting. Edit: I should read the whole thread before responding, since I'm far from the first one to mention the Versailles connection. |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 05:21
| Thanks for the update,You can be guaranteed I'm not sieging any of those cities. |
Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 09:18
| Zork has returned my message with an agreement, and it's very fair all around and I plan to stick by the cease fire until whenever we agree to continue aggressive action. |
Posted By: Mr Damage
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2011 at 05:30
| Congrats all round I guess. |
Posted By: SunStorm
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2011 at 21:25
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I just today stumbled upon this thread (I dont get out much since summer classes and work is keeping me very busy) - I can't believe I missed this whole thing and didn't even hear about it in GC or AC... *feels so out of the loop* that's fine, I need to finish reading chapters in my book for class rather than threads in the forum. (:P) So I suppose it's over...at least until someone gets a warning that the cease fire (or the "pause until we re-build troops so we can b**ch slap you) is null and voided... Call me when that happens - I want to use black magic to make it rain on the day of battle <--(just because...) -------------
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