A PLEA FOR HELP!
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Forum Name: The Caravanserai
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Topic: A PLEA FOR HELP!
Posted By: Manannan
Subject: A PLEA FOR HELP!
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 21:08
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This may not be the right place to post this, maybe a personal message to SC would have been better, but by placing this on the forums its gives everyone a chance to voice their own opinion in either agreement or not. SC I'm pleading with you please to promote another MOD or two. Global Chat is, at times, pushing the limits of what is acceptable and there seems to be a lack of 'coloured' names about to help keep things 'tasteful' at all times. Although as a community we do a pretty decent job of policing ourselves most of the time, the influx of new players, linked with the time constraints on both the GMs and MOD Strategos, means that more and more people are pushing the limits of what is truely acceptable. A 'coloured' name hovering/lurking in the shadows tends to keep people in line more for fear of the 'ban hammer of smite' falling on them. Although the filter does a good job of keeping profanity and spam to a minimum it de-humanizes the process and a computer does not always pick up everything. I realise that there are restrictions placed on moderators which basically mean they can no longer really play the game and the people I would like to see moderate would therefore not probably be willing to do so. (I'm not going to name them either in here, in global chat or by in game message people so please do not ask me who.) I do feel very strongly that another MOD would greatly help though, especially if they are knowledgable in the game and can answer pretty much any (game related) question thrown at them. All that being said I'd like to thank both StormCrow and ThunderCat, and all the other staff, for providing the wonderful world of Illy we all play in and the uncalculable number of hours you spend on our enjoyment. There are not words enough to express the gratitude for all of your hard work.
------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either! "Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
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Posted By: Clavius Vile
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 21:17
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hey my user name on illyriad is in the color black, must mean I'm important. Edit: Yes on the serious note there have been a number of censor dodges  and repeated words related to "ahem"sexual orientation and such, so yes a few more Mods or a increased time spent on Gc by the GM's and Mod's would be appreciated.------------- [18:24]<Johnny112> books are an advance resource. They're similar to, but not the same as books |
Posted By: phire
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 21:44
| For the most part, the established Illyriad players are used to the expectaions of game and Global chat etiquette . However there are more and more people joining who have experienced other games where just about anything goes. This has become their norm. Personally I would like to have the high standards of Illyriad chat expectations maintained as well. Perhaps a few more mods available at various times will further the expectations of a family friendly chat. |
Posted By: Belthazor
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 23:44
When I joined Illy, GC was without the Mods and GM's for a while.They weren't on chat much because they were making updates.So think that while they're not on chat,they're making nice updates for all of us  ------------- We work in the Dark to serve the Light |
Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 23:48
Agreed Belth. The time they spend developing the game was what I was referring to when I mentioned restraints on their time. The also have RL to keep them busy. Was just saying an extra Moderator or two would be reassuring to have around. ------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either! "Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
Belthazor wrote:Posted By: Belthazor
Date Posted: 14 May 2011 at 23:55
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I don't think it would be that easy to find a Mod or two,because I believe a Mod HAS to be neutral,so I don't think it should be anyone that plays Illyriad. Sometimes,it's too hard to be neutral and you give in to pressure. That said I have no idea where to find a Mod. ------------- We work in the Dark to serve the Light |
Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 02:13
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I think as long as you found a mature level headed, most likely adult player, it wouldn't be a problem. Keep in mind that while the GMs would never admit it, there is certainly people they don't like. You'll never find someone who will be neutral, you just need to find someone who wont act based on their dislike for someone. |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 02:46
| With the new 'Ban in chat' addition and if it comes to a choice: GM's moderating or developing then I err to developing. If its a simple case of an additional Mod at no detriment to development? Then of course. |
Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 03:39
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Some of the GM's and also Moderator's have allowed themselves to become to informal and relaxed in their interaction with players. I believe that the GM/player relationship should be confined to petitions and the forum. I also feel that there is an increasing need for Mods to focus on what is and is not permissable behaviour in Alliance and Global Chats. |
Posted By: Clavius Vile
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 03:47
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Censor alliance chat? but that's the chat we can talk in without the fear of being censored!
------------- [18:24]<Johnny112> books are an advance resource. They're similar to, but not the same as books |
Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 06:23
No, I disagree there. That's one f the best features of Illy- it's community, and that includes the GMs.
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 06:47
You mean make sexual jokes and flirt with anyone who identifies as female? |
Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 07:06
Well.... A little bit..... Sort of..... Lol, joking. I avoid that sort of thing.
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Posted By: Belthazor
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 08:11
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Well, in AC we can talk in a more openly way, because we won't be censored and because the person that's in your alliance knows you and knows that you're joking. I'm always joking with Nok in AC and he jokes with me too and if we did that in GC we'd be banned. ------------- We work in the Dark to serve the Light |
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 09:01
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Hi all, A few general pointers.
Having said all of that, Petitions to the GMs for egregious breaches of the rules regarding discrimination on the grounds of race, sexuality, gender, politics or religion will be investigated - regardless of whether they originate in Global Chat, ingame mail, a forum post - or indeed Alliance Chat. Regards, SC |
Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 09:29
You're making us look like swearing hooligans.... We probably wouldn't be BANNED, just silenced on some occasions.
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Posted By: Belthazor
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 09:41
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You make it sound like we aren't! ------------- We work in the Dark to serve the Light |
Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 09:49
Public IMAGE!
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Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 12:56
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With alliance chat it should be down to the leaders to decide what is acceptable and what is not. Offenders can always be booted out into the general populace as SC said. And really bad offences can also be petitioned. Good news we may be seeing a new 'Mean Greenie' in the near future in GC though, or should I say 'soon™'  ------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either! "Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
Posted By: Belthazor
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 14:51
Your public image is that of a bear. Your argument is invalid.  ------------- We work in the Dark to serve the Light |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 20:58
And everyone knows Bears are Godless killing machines. |
Posted By: Belthazor
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 21:00
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True. But some are nice and soft and like hugs ------------- We work in the Dark to serve the Light |
Posted By: Manannan
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 22:32
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Getting a little off subject now aren't we ------------- Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either! "Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude |
Posted By: Belthazor
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 22:40
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We always do,Mana. We always do... And it's my fault.Forgive me for that. Let's get back to the need of Mods. Any more thought? Ideas? Opinions? ------------- We work in the Dark to serve the Light |
Posted By: Clavius Vile
Date Posted: 15 May 2011 at 23:20
Actually no, but i allow my members to swear occasionally, such as a dire moment. in gc you cant let out a few fumes that way, ------------- [18:24]<Johnny112> books are an advance resource. They're similar to, but not the same as books |
Posted By: lokifeyson
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 11:31
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I'll be a mod...if it means i get a perm nub shield :) no, i'm not joking a little monetary compensation wouldn't be bad either lol -------------  |
Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 16 May 2011 at 12:06
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I agree with the unmoderated alliance chat 100%. Alliance chat gives players a good place to vent their feelings while hidden from the public eye to a greater extent/with people they know/are getting to know better. If things get out of hand in alliance chat it is alliance leaders/directors responsibility to keep their members in-line, and they have plenty of power to do so (removing unruly players from the alliance for example, in extreme cases) and of course, as has already been pointed out, there's petitions for serious T&C infringements, although after a year playing Illy I've never heard of such a case, at least in all the major alliances I know. And I have no problem with established members of the community stepping up to help out with General Chat moderation. I guess there is always the "abuse of power" question to deal with when there are moderators with a vested interest in in-game politics. IMO it would be very easy for devs to check moderators and a mod who steps out of line would be very rapidly reported by other players and dealt with I believe. I also think any potential moderators would be very unwise to try and 'moderate' people in general chat for discussing in-game politics that they didn't like anyways; doing so would only highlight the issue to the rest of the community and force a general conversation in GC into a serious conversation elsewhere behind closed doors. And I agree with mananan that a few extra moderators ONLY for global chat would go a very long way, there is already an established bunch of veteran players (who regularly check into global chat to say hi and help new players with questions/resources etc.) that could be candidates for P-mod status. And if doing so freed up a little extra time for the devs to do even more development work that is the biggest + in my mind. |