New players tournament
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Topic: New players tournament
Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Subject: New players tournament
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 11:37
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As we have all seen a recent influx of players who will stick around im Illyriad (hopefully) a great way to welcome these players is with the:
1st annual New players tournament!
The "Newbie Tournie" or "NT" could consist of players between 50-500 pop approx.
These players would have to compete in a series of challenges that the Gms or Mods could issue into the game. ( King of the hill, but theres only one flag, Gather the most resources, Steal the most resources, must scout the most NPC'S etc.) At the end of the tourney all of these new players who competed would recieve a small prize to help them retain any losses or improve their towns futher.
The winner/winners then could win a large amount of gold or prestige (possible idea of free upgrading without using prestige to any building of their choice that is then maxed out?)
Then whilst these youngens are scrapping it out. Us older players can place bets on who we think is going to win/place where. A leaderboard cosisting of odds and placements so far could then be set up which then can be looked at to place bets off I.E player x is in third place with odds of 1/4. People can then bet on a player with gold and have a return of that gold plus the winnings if what they bet came through at the end.
Note:Maybe even possible leaderboard and prize for the person who made the biggest winning through out the Newbie tournament.
Sponsors: The new player can if they wish pick a sponsor to help provide gold,ress,adv.ress to that player to give him an edge. This sponsor will not be alowed to take part in the betting but can win a seperate prize for being "The nicest person" award or just an award for sponsorship. With Gold adv.ress or prestige...
Note: there would have to be some restrictions on what a sponsor can do to give the player an edge (We don't want Kumo or HM just giving 20 million to a player of 100 pop just because their sponsoring him, that would be a little to unfair :P ;) )
Please Gms Mods and players of illy feedback would be good and a decent discussion would be nice here aswell.
Thankyou
(EOM) Harry ------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart. |
Replies:
Posted By: Aureaus
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 11:42
| fantastic idea. got my support mate. It would be a good way to keep newbies in game, etc. me. Hope it gets through, mate. |
Posted By: Othenan
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 11:50
| I too support Harry's idea! Though I am motivated to reach a pro level ASAP to play the game like the vets, a tournament will definitely boost my spirits, not to mention the fame I could get;) |
Posted By: Rsk31
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 12:06
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Gr8 idea .... totally support it .... it'd make the game more interesting and fun ... :)
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Posted By: photojoe
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 17:11
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What about breaking up the current tournaments into divisions? Div A: The top 10% of players by population. Div B: The next 20%. C: The next 30%, and D: The remainder of the player base. Prizes go to the winner of each division plus an overall winner. |
Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 18:25
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I support this idea.
Illyriad is very "alienating" in the first 6 months because your options are so limited and others so much more capable. A tournament in the basic disciplines that new players are anyways required to aquaint themselves with at some point: Warfare, Diplomacy, Factions and so on. It would be a great harmless training excercise that would also be motivating for new players to get to know each other and not only "the hand that feeds them".
Also think that having more than one league would be preferable.
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Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 18:49
Thumbs up from me  But Tord.... "It would be a great HARMLESS excercise." Need I say more?
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Posted By: Aneirin
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 03:40
| Harry's suggestion is brilliant. It will liven the game up for newcomers and give everyone else the chance to recognise and accept new talent when they see it. |
Posted By: ellisande
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 03:56
I rather like this idea. I'm not a newbie (in the under 500 pop sense) but I know that I and my alliance can't really compete against the "big guys". However, we want to compete and it would be nice to get a reward if you make a good showing. Right now, we're stepping up because I set a goal for the alliance -- but a real reward would be awesome if we were competing against similar sized players and/or alliances. |
photojoe wrote:Posted By: kicking5251
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 04:48
| this is a really really good idea!!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Negraf
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 13:51
| Ashame I have grown to large to enter, if it ever took place. |
Posted By: Mandarins31
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 17:30
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this idea is pretty good. This is a good way for new players to have fun early in the game. also we could make various tournaments for players under 5 000 pop: 100-500; 501- 1500; 1501-3000; 3001-5000... for exemple and we could have a tournament for each category every month.... if there is 1 tournament every 3 months, that's pointless. |
Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 18:27
| I would recommend setting boundaries by city count rather than population. Population boundaries can be gamed far too easily. |
Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 22:32
------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart. |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 02:32
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Can I play? I ees Noob. |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 02:41
I do not agree with this premise of a player with high pop able to compete with noob players just because he has a town in the 500 pop or less range. Experience will play a factor. The high pop player can also send resources from other towns to his small pop town that will overwhelmingly destroy the competition. It is not a shock that you would think of an idea such as this so you can exploit another way of possibly winning a tournament. The only way your idea would work is if there is a total pop restriction and a town restriction included. If higher pop players want to compete in this tourney, they should create their own and allow higher pop players in it with their own high total pop and town pop restrictions. I'm Brilliant Superstar Lionz Heartz ------------- HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related |
Posted By: kicking5251
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 03:05
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but you could do that with new people as well get this bigger person to give them tons of resources (totally ignoring the fact that if you are new all you have to do is ask for resources on GC and you get them) so that dosnt really mean anything
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Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 03:28
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This is the reason why there is not a tournament for new or lower ranked players. Each member of the community proposes a idea, which then get's gnawed down to nothing but it's faults. Which then leads to yet another idea to the newbie tournament. The point is, there will always be people trying to cheat the system, you as a player or a Game Moderator can not control that. All the Dev's can do is set up the tournament boundary/population wise and hope for the best, you will always meet cheats so the best thing you can do is play the tournament to the best of your ability. ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 03:47
I agree with everything you said on here. When it comes to tournaments, this player base does rip apart a tournament idea until the rules fit them to the point that they will win the tournament. I would much rather risk having a new player get resources from another player than have a vet player use a small town in a tournament. You are right though, there will always be players and or alliances that will bend the rules so they can win. So far in two tournaments, H? has done just that, bent the rules to favor themselves. I foresee more of the same from them. I am not sure how much longer the community will allow H?'s tactics in future tournaments since the rest of the community is catching up. H? has been pretty good at upsetting one alliance each tournament and I am sure this will not change in the future ones. ------------- HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related |
Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 03:52
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LH, I don't know your background nor do I want to go into it. from what I have seen you seem to spam forum threads while others mock you. I was following along with your above statements until you started insulting H?. I am not sucking up to H? but if you want your opinions to be taken seriously you need to simply post your thoughts and try not to insult the other parties. Now, let's get back to the subject matter. ------------- Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 03:57
Insult as to what it was... It was a mere example as to the type of cheating that goes on in such tournaments. To be honest I can care less about you taking my post serious. I have an opinion and I will state it regardless of what you may think of it. The subject matter has been discussed. PS- kicking read that post again first letter from each sentence from top to bottom. Then soon after hit your head with a hammer, ty. Spam? I think not, if an opinion on said topic is different from yours, it is not spam, it is a difference of opinion so deal with it. ------------- HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related |
Posted By: kicking5251
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 04:04
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your post in the 100,000 pop club was pretty spamish
EDIT: ok... it did have a point to it
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Posted By: Drejan
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 16:05
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Can i suggest to improve the Tavern quest system to let "newbie" enjoy the game? Maybe introduce some region-shared quest and improving the rewards. "Newbie tornments" like "newbie areas" or "newbie arena" in other games look artificial to me. A globlal tornment should reward the best global players.
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Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 17:28
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If you are worried about people cheating or bending rules then i did say that there would be restrictions, and one of these would be no alts and that there would be restrictions on how much basic ress a person will be allowed to give as a sponsor, and LH please, i dont want a serious debate infected with your cancer. If you wish to make a fool of yourself make a thread with just your trolly ideas init so people can ignore it as much as humanly possible. Thankyou :)------------- Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart. |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 01:54
+1 |