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Topic: Goonie's attacking players for no reason!!
Posted By: darken rahl
Subject: Goonie's attacking players for no reason!!
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2011 at 22:06

I've had the the inforunate experince of coming across a Goonie's member who go'es by the name John Louis. A couple of night's back he accused me of stealing from his city and demanded I send the items back are die. I did'nt steal from him and he has no evidence to back up his claim and I told him this. Next time i log on he had attacked me and cast spell's on me. The only defense I have was to cast spells back on him. It's now come to the point were a player called Beau has got involved he is on his way to attack me. The Goonie's preach on their alliance page their all for honesty, yeah right these are unjustified attack's. 




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Posted By: darken rahl
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2011 at 22:16

There is now a another player involved in the unjustifed slaughter he go'es by the nam Sherpae.



Posted By: Mr. Ubiquitous Feral
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2011 at 22:32
Message the alliance leader and ask for a truce to discuss the problem.

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I am a Machine.


Posted By: Sherpa
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2011 at 23:33

Actually, it's spelled Sherpa.

 

And yes, I'm getting "involved".  I retaliated with magic attacks similar to those leveraged against our player John Louis.  As many of you know my quality from past wars, I won't waste the community's time with more rationalization.  If Darken Rahl wanted peace he would have pursued that course of action when it was offered by alliance leadership.  Similarly, he should have ceased diplomatic missions after initial contact by GOON.  Since none of this occurred, we find ourselves at this impasse.

Darken Rahl, as I encouraged previously in personal correspondence, pursuit of diplomatic resolutions should be your priority now.



Posted By: darken rahl
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2011 at 23:48
Originally posted by Sherpa Sherpa wrote:

Similarly, he should have ceased diplomatic missions after initial contact by GOON. 

My reponse's to John Louis and everyone involved is falling on deaf ears, I did'nt are have'nt launced diplo attack's on John Louis. These are unjustified attack's. Yes I did recieve a mail from Goon but it got deleted by error. I mailed Faya saying this and to mail me again but I did'nt get a response. 


Posted By: Faya
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 00:56
I personally love people like this. They arent worth the time or energy of explaining as we do NOT attack without being provoked or coming to the aid of our allies. But.. 

John Louis, a member of Goonies, reported he was attacked by diplomatic attacks (thievery) and magic attacks by Darken Rahl. He followed the thieves back and found it to be him. 

He got me involved. I messaged Darken Rahl AND Sir Craig, the alliance leadership. I advised him he better stop (and did NOT even demand he return anything as I many of us can easily supply our members). Nothing from the alliance leadership after a couple of days. And yet, the thievery and magic attacks continued. 

So, after some mail exchanges, I contacted our closest allies (DLords and Curse) and alerted them I was authorizing attacks on Darken Rahl and him alone. His alliance is not under attack (and wont be as long as they stay out of it). 

Darken Rahl: You had your chance. Goonies are ONE TEAM, ONE FIGHT. You mess with one, you messed with all. As this point, you need to do some serious good-will towards John Louis to avoid having your capital city sieged to rubble. There is time. But not much. I would suggest communicating with me IN GAME and try to get me to call the armies off. 

Talking "big" and insulting my members in mail, chat and forums doesnt help your cause. You started this. We will finish it. But we are NOT without mercy. So the next steps depend on you. Your capital CAN survive this but the ball is completely in your court. 

Faya
Goonies


Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 01:07

o DR justgot owned!



Posted By: kicking5251
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 01:10
what do you expect a guy with 2 cities taking on the entire empire of
goonies is not pretty.......


Posted By: darken rahl
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 01:20

No Faya John Louis did'nt track me because I did'nt lauch attacks on him but I'm done with trying to explain this. Do what you's want I don't care. When you talk of talking big and insulting it was only toward's one member and that's John Louis himself and it is true he is pathetic. He's the type of player who love's causing trouble it's as simple as that.



Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 01:35
The only thing I am noticing is one BIG alliance known as an aggressor due to their siege counts on herald picking on a small player.

AKA BULLY...

To the OP, do not expect mercy from Faya. She has an aggressive personality by nature and perhaps also needs her ass kissed as well. You are in a bad situation also. I can not think of a way you can get out of this. Perhaps if you do what she says you will get by with a warning. But I can see them using a lame excuse to attack you again and end you.

The whole tracking a diplomat is always hard to prove. OP, you need to understand that players in this game will siege over personality conflicts, destroying there caravans, diplomat attacks, and perhaps will siege over no reason at all.

The siege statistics are a good way of telling players which players are aggressive and which players are passive. To bad for you, GOONs are aggressive and so is FAYA.

Faya is kind of like Iduna in terms that she will want to attack you even more when you complain in a public forum and on global chat. These players are egotistical and expect their ass kissed 24/7. They are also female which makes them emotional creatures so watch what you say or type to them.

The old alliance that you were in is not capable of doing anything for you. This situation could have been avoided if you were in a bigger alliance with strong allies. Since you do not have these, there was no threat for them and just an excuse for them to BULLY and get away with it.

My advice is to start over and do not kiss her ass or GOONs ass. It will take the community to change this for you, but I do not see this happening.

This game is very much luck in some ways... You have to be in the right alliance and be surrounded with the right type of players that fit in with you.

If you do start over and join a big alliance, remember that the leaders in this game do hold grudges when you leave their alliance after a few months with them. Leaders in this game have made up some rules to deal with members that leave alliances.

I think you are a new player and have not played the game long enough to realize the consequences of said actions. If you had a verbal tirade on global that will only be used as an excuse for the GOONs to siege you. Pretty common for players getting sieged to lash out in anger.

This is not my business but the situation I feel was handled wrong by the GOONs.    

LOL
"So, after some mail exchanges, I contacted our closest allies (DLords and Curse) and alerted them I was authorizing attacks on Darken Rahl and him alone. His alliance is not under attack (and wont be as long as they stay out of it)." FAYA

LOL at Faya having to contact Curse and Dlords about this one small player from a very very small alliance. Talk about over kill...

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HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related


Posted By: Mr. Ubiquitous Feral
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 02:43
Originally posted by Faya Faya wrote:

John Louis, a member of Goonies, reported he was attacked by diplomatic attacks (thievery) and magic attacks by Darken Rahl. He followed the thieves back and found it to be him. 

Faya
Goonies

I have asked and checked the Forum.  I have come to believe, on these as well as my own first hand experience, that a gamer can see diplos coming IN, but not going back to its city after the attack.  I am told that any other gamer can follow the diplo home, but the gamer attacked cannot.  This has been confirmed twice by myself.  

What does that mean to you?


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I am a Machine.


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 04:56
I don't really care who started this, but seeing as John Louis's population is larger than Darken's shouldn't John be able to handle it himself? There's no need to have an entire alliance help eliminate a threat that is small, just my opinion though, as i believe in a one on one fight, as long as the sides are even.

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http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Profile?gamertag=G0DsDestroyer" rel="nofollow - Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin


Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 13:54
Originally posted by Mr. Ubiquitous Feral Mr. Ubiquitous Feral wrote:


Originally posted by Faya Faya wrote:

John Louis, a member of Goonies, reported he was attacked by diplomatic attacks (thievery) and magic attacks by Darken Rahl. He followed the thieves back and found it to be him. 
Faya
Goonies

I have asked and checked the Forum.  I have come to believe, on these as well as my own first hand experience, that a gamer can see diplos coming IN, but not going back to its city after the attack.  I am told that any other gamer can follow the diplo home, but the gamer attacked cannot.  This has been confirmed twice by myself.  
What does that mean to you?


Yes, that is true, a player would have to have two accounts and use that 2nd account to track it back.

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HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 13:57
Originally posted by Mr. Ubiquitous Feral Mr. Ubiquitous Feral wrote:

I have asked and checked the Forum.  I have come to believe, on these as well as my own first hand experience, that a gamer can see diplos coming IN, but not going back to its city after the attack.  I am told that any other gamer can follow the diplo home, but the gamer attacked cannot.  This has been confirmed twice by myself.  

What does that mean to you?


To me?  It means something isn't quite as it should be...

Any standard ingame procedure that *requires* a second account/third-party to fulfil (with the intentional and notable exceptions, such as the "Gift Of..." spellset) is probably incorrect.

Will put on the to-fix list.

SC


Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 14:11
Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:


Originally posted by Mr. Ubiquitous Feral Mr. Ubiquitous Feral wrote:

I have asked and checked the Forum.  I have come to believe, on these as well as my own first hand experience, that a gamer can see diplos coming IN, but not going back to its city after the attack.  I am told that any other gamer can follow the diplo home, but the gamer attacked cannot.  This has been confirmed twice by myself.  
What does that mean to you?
To me?  It means something isn't quite as it should be... Any standard ingame procedure that *requires* a second account/third-party to fulfil (with the intentional and notable exceptions, such as the "Gift Of..." spellset) is probably incorrect.Will put on the to-fix list.SC


So are you saying that you will allow one account players the option to track a diplomat back? Or are you saying that there will be no way any player can track a diplomat back from any account (another alliance etc)?

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HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 14:19
Originally posted by Lionz Heartz Lionz Heartz wrote:

So are you saying that you will allow one account players the option to track a diplomat back? Or are you saying that there will be no way any player can track a diplomat back from any account (another alliance etc)?


Gosh.

I hadn't thought of Option B (the latter).  I was going with Option A (the former) in my head.

But now that you mention it... to the researchmobile, Illybatpeople!

Regards,

SC

Also, can we let this thread return to it's original purpose?  Apologies for the derail.


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 15:01
This is my personal opinion and in no way reflects the attitude of my alliance:

GOONs (and those who pretend to be GOONs) are an infection. They form clumps selfish self-righteous narcississtic manipulative meta-gamers in almost every single MMOG I've ever played.

They join games en-masse have no interest in supporting the development or community of any game they. Their sole-pleasure derides from manipulating others and causing rifts within communities and between developers and their gamers. Generally giving GOONs any kind of attention gives them inexplicable pleasure, which is why I'm partially loathe to write this post.

If you are a non-GOON that starts next to a patch of GOONs you will find your gaming experience considerably more enjoyable had the GOONs not been there.

So my only advice to you, darken rahl, is to relocate. Fighting against a much stronger opponent gets pretty frustrating when you want to experience more of the game than being a pinata. Making a thread and ranting (predictably for the eloquent trolls that are GOON) will only motive them into action.

And to you GOONies who read this: No doubt you will all deny this post very strongly and verbosely. But if any of you lot genuinely believe that you are not the players I have just described, you're gonna have to work hard to prove it, cos you already got a reputation and what I've seen in this post so far supports it.


Posted By: Faya
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 15:26
LOL. This is getting more entertaining by the post! Thank you for the enjoyment. 


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 16:38
Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

...giving GOONs any kind of attention gives them inexplicable pleasure...


Originally posted by Faya Faya wrote:

This is getting more entertaining by the post! Thank you for the enjoyment. 


See what I mean!?

Actually In all sincerity: I am glad you are enjoying this.

Bitter sea by it's very nature has to be a place full of strong opinions and tears of frustration, it wouldn't really be 'Bitter Sea' otherwise.


Posted By: Faya
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 16:47
Createure: I agree with you actually. this is a GREAT place to vent and I encourage players to do so. But what MOST don't get is this is a GAME. Anyone who takes it too seriously and can't laugh at things is well, probably going to have a heart-attack in a few years. Games are meant to be fun..Why play if its not? :) 



Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 16:53
Originally posted by Faya Faya wrote:

Createure: I agree with you actually. this is a GREAT place to vent and I encourage players to do so. But what MOST don't get is this is a GAME. Anyone who takes it too seriously and can't laugh at things is well, probably going to have a heart-attack in a few years. Games are meant to be fun..Why play if its not? :) 


Why are the aggressors always the ones telling the defenseless players (about to be destroyed in game) that it is only a game? I am sure if the roles were reversed, you would not have the same 'it is just a game' approach as you do ending the game for a player.

I am sorry but anyone that throws out 'it is just a game' pretty much shows their lack of intelligence to me. This game is a hobby and to some it is more than that. Who are you to say how a person should react in a situation? Games like these bring about such an attachment to some players.

The fact 'it is just a game' does not give an aggressive player the right to do whatever they want in game without right or wrong.

I remember you said the same thing to Gigi, I am pretty sure he did not like the 'it is just a game comment'.

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HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 17:03
Seeing as this thread has become  a  argument, let me throw my two cents in.  /me throws two penny's at Faya. Now let me say what I want to say, this is just a game.  Now granted I will be slightly irritated if someone decides to beat my city into oblivion, but I'd in reality shrug my shoulders and go play on the X box and kill some Nazi Zombies.




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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin


Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 17:06
Originally posted by Kurfist Kurfist wrote:

Faya

Originally posted by Kurfist Kurfist wrote:

Nazi Zombie




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HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 17:08
?

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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin


Posted By: Ryuuku
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 18:05
I have a few comments. I actually don't agree that you should laugh off everything because it's just a game, and dislike that used as an excuse for bad behavior, much as I hate "it's just a joke" used as an excuse for racist, sexist, etc. speech. I would comment on the Godwinization and misogyny on this thread, but must follow my own advice to ignore the troll.

As for GOON being some sort of brand, I suspect anyone knowingly talking about GOONs in other games is mistaking someone else for us.  If you read our alliance history, you can see that this is only the third game that Goonies have played together, and I can say it is the only one where we are known as "GOON" so far. This is the second of three where we travelled together as a group, our first game being the one where we met, and the fourth one a game we began just recently. In every game that we have played we have supported the game community in a big way, as we have players who spend their entertainment dollars on the game, and in every game we meet new friends and pick up new members who join with us in other communities. We have probably gained the most new members in Illyriad, compared to any other game, with only a core group of maybe 25% of us that played with us before Illyriad. Our brand is "Goonies" as in the movie, and pirates as a fun theme, sticking together and working for one goal en masse is our general strategy.

We protect our own and part of any game is sizing up your enemy before attacking. If you injure one of us, you injure all of us, but we are not the aggressors. If players, defenseless or not, poke at us, we will find them out, write to them, and try diplomacy first. We also keep our confederates apprised of any actions involving outsiders, how that gets twisted into asking them for help, I have no clue. I can only guess that people who think that have no notion of what diplomacy is really about.


ONE TEAM! ONE FIGHT!



Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 18:06
Sounds pretty fair.

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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 18:16
Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

GOONs (and those who pretend to be GOONs) are an infection. They form clumps selfish self-righteous narcississtic manipulative meta-gamers in almost every single MMOG I've ever played.


Are you seriously making assumptions on what Goons are like in this game based on what Goons are like in *completely different games*? Cause it seems like that's what's influencing your opinion here. Unless Goon has done something else to make you feel this way, you seem to be judging them based on one thread and some past experiences with completely different people. Seems like a pretty close minded judgmental thing to do to me.

Originally posted by Kurfist Kurfist wrote:

?


Since you're new, I'll give you a very helpful tip. Ignore everything LH says.




Posted By: Glorietta
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 18:56
Originally posted by Ryuuku Ryuuku wrote:

As for GOON being some sort of brand, I suspect anyone knowingly talking about GOONs in other games is mistaking someone else for us.  If you read our alliance history, you can see that this is only the third game that Goonies have played together, and I can say it is the only one where we are known as "GOON" so far.

This is just for clarification as it seems there is some confusion over this point: Are you guys in any way related to the various Goonsquads, Goonfleets, Goonwhatever originating sometime in the past in the somethingawful.com forums?


Posted By: Ryuuku
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 19:05
Originally posted by Glorietta Glorietta wrote:

Originally posted by Ryuuku Ryuuku wrote:

As for GOON being some sort of brand, I suspect anyone knowingly talking about GOONs in other games is mistaking someone else for us.  If you read our alliance history, you can see that this is only the third game that Goonies have played together, and I can say it is the only one where we are known as "GOON" so far.

This is just for clarification as it seems there is some confusion over this point: Are you guys in any way related to the various Goonsquads, Goonfleets, Goonwhatever originating sometime in the past in the somethingawful.com forums?


No way, no how. Never heard of them.

Just to be clear, we are Goonies in every game we play. I have seen Goonies that were not us in other games as well, and we are not anything else in any game.


Posted By: Glorietta
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 19:49
Originally posted by Ryuuku Ryuuku wrote:


No way, no how. Never heard of them.

Just to be clear, we are Goonies in every game we play. I have seen Goonies that were not us in other games as well, and we are not anything else in any game.

Just a few links for your edification:
http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-02/mf_goons?currentPage=1 - http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-02/mf_goons?currentPage=1
http://www.brokentoys.org/2011/04/07/and-now-a-word-from-the-premier-of-the-galactic-senate-fofofofofofofofo/ - http://www.brokentoys.org/2011/04/07/and-now-a-word-from-the-premier-of-the-galactic-senate-fofofofofofofofo/

Those are the people some dread to encounter. Smile


Posted By: Ryuuku
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 19:55
Originally posted by Glorietta Glorietta wrote:

Originally posted by Ryuuku Ryuuku wrote:


No way, no how. Never heard of them.

Just to be clear, we are Goonies in every game we play. I have seen Goonies that were not us in other games as well, and we are not anything else in any game.

Just a few links for your edification:
http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-02/mf_goons?currentPage=1 - http://www.wired.com/gaming/virtualworlds/magazine/16-02/mf_goons?currentPage=1
http://www.brokentoys.org/2011/04/07/and-now-a-word-from-the-premier-of-the-galactic-senate-fofofofofofofofo/ - http://www.brokentoys.org/2011/04/07/and-now-a-word-from-the-premier-of-the-galactic-senate-fofofofofofofofo/

Those are the people some dread to encounter. Smile


Well, education anyway, I hardly feel edified after any contact with fratboy-like, smug, destructive yahoos of any stripe.


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 22:11
@Ryukuu and 'GOONs' of Illyriad:

If you guys did not orginate from / have never been associated with or members of / are not some attempt to imitate, the 'GOONs' of somethingaweful.com then I offer you an unreserved apology. I shall endeavour to judge you only on your actions with Illyriad, should I choose to judge at all. Wink

Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

Are you seriously making assumptions on what Goons are like in this game based on what Goons are like in *completely different games*? Cause it seems like that's what's influencing your opinion here. Unless Goon has done something else to make you feel this way, you seem to be judging them based on one thread and some past experiences with completely different people. Seems like a pretty close minded judgmental thing to do to me.

Again, apologies if you were offended by my earlier comments.

Two points in my defence though:
 1. This, as we already established, is "The Bitter Sea". It ain't all happy bunnies and ponies.
 2. 'GOONswarm' and other 'GOON...' related pseudonyms are a universally recognised collective/tag that have gained alot of notoriety by doing alot sh*tty things on alot of sites, not just online games. They do it because they get kicks out of pissing other people off, it's like the school play-ground of the internet. If you guys used their tag unwittingly without realising the connection that ALOT of people will automatically assume then you guys made a pretty naiive decision. In the internet a tag is as good as a brand, since almost everything is text.

But anyways, consider my issue here finished. You've made your defence and I've made my apology, so perhaps we can go back to discussing the plight of darken rahl.


Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2011 at 22:57
I have always had my suspicions that the Goonies in this game, were related to the GOONs in this and other games. Since the GOONs have made use of the GOON name longer than the Goonies here, I think it makes sense for the Goonies to change their name forever. No matter which game you will play, players will think you are the GOONs. Coming from Darkfallonline, I though you were part of the GOONs.

The fact you have not heard of the GOONs makes me think the players in this alliance are noobs.

Here is a good name for you...

ONE TEAM! ONE FIGHT!
[PIRATES]

or
1Team1Fight
[Pirates]


FYI

You may have heard of 'The Mercs'? No matter which game they play, they (like H?) make sure no one will take that name.

The Mercs was the alliance that destroyed the GOONs in Darkfallonline btw. They are known for joining new games at launch and exploiting everything to get the best advantage in game to WIN games. Once they announce VICTORY, they leave game and start another. Illyriad and H? is very lucky they did not attempt to play this game or things would have been very different in this game. H? does not compare to the pro gamers of the 'The Mercs'. You thought GOONs were bad for games, 'The Mercs' are far worse.

Foggen (former merc) rules EU server right now in Darkfallonline.

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HELLS COMING WITH ME YOU HEAR, HELLS COMING WITH ME!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynKoZD-sFi4&feature=related


Posted By: darken rahl
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 01:04

This is my last forum post. Last night I was annoyed and angry at the unjustified attacks being dealt against my city's, but having time to reflect on it the Goonie's have done me a favour pushing me out of Illyriad. This game take's up so much of your time, I'm now free in a sense so thankyou! The Goonie's are a bunch of cutthroats tho especially Faya there was no evidence what so ever to back up their claims and they twisted event's so they looked to be in the right.

Originally posted by Faya Faya wrote:


John Louis, a member of Goonies, reported he was attacked by diplomatic attacks (thievery) and magic attacks by Darken Rahl. He followed the thieves back and found it to be him. 
 
 
Originally posted by darken rahl darken rahl wrote:

A couple of night's back he accused me of stealing from his city and demanded I send the items back are die. I did'nt steal from him and he has no evidence to back up his claim and I told him this. Next time i log on he had attacked me and cast spell's on me. The only defense I have was to cast spells back on him.

 
 
Originally posted by Mr. Ubiquitous Feral Mr. Ubiquitous Feral wrote:


I have asked and checked the Forum.  I have come to believe, on these as well as my own first hand experience, that a gamer can see diplos coming IN, but not going back to its city after the attack.  I am told that any other gamer can follow the diplo home, but the gamer attacked cannot.  This has been confirmed twice by myself.  
 
 
One final note Faya
Originally posted by Sherpa Sherpa wrote:

Similarly, he should have ceased diplomatic missions after initial contact by GOON.

Originally posted by darken rahl darken rahl wrote:

 Yes I did recieve a mail from Goon but it got deleted by error. I mailed Faya saying this and to mail me again but I did'nt get a response. 
 
I believe you intentionally ignored this mail because you wanted this to happen, you knew what John Louis said did'nt add up and you thought it would be fun anyway to let the hound's out, Shame on you Faya.


Posted By: Faya
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 01:59
I had typed a long response.. but frankly, it wasn't really worth going into.

YOU have time still to save your city. But the ball has been in your court and you have chosen to not act on it. 



Posted By: Carl Zeis
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 03:58
Why is it that no one settles these disputes by posting the mail that they sent to the opposing members? 


Posted By: Faya
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 04:12
Originally posted by Carl Zeis Carl Zeis wrote:

Why is it that no one settles these disputes by posting the mail that they sent to the opposing members? 

Good question. I don't know why people feel the need to bring these to the forums.. BUT.. this is the Bitter Sea.. so let the complaints flow!!!



Posted By: Ryuuku
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 05:17
Actually, that's been done many times in the past, but somehow it never seems to solve anything, only takes the arguments to new material.


Posted By: Carl Zeis
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 06:18
Based off of how quickly I see these threads branching out I can see how that could spark some unusual debate lol


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 06:45
Originally posted by Faya Faya wrote:

I don't know why people feel the need to bring these to the forums..


I'd imagine it's because the player hopes to get help from someone else.

Although I think it's a good thing to bring to the forums regardless of whether you're seeking help. If no one talked about TMM, no one would have done anything about them.


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 16:28
We should just stop this debate,  i have a pretty good idea to what it will come to, take a look at Godwins Law

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler Approaches one.."


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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 16:36
And it is a self-fulfilling prophecy...its own invocation satisfies itself.  Before your post, the probability was still well short of one.


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 16:37
That may be true, I had something moderately intelligent to write but then I saw your animated picture. Just what is he chewing?

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Posted By: Ryuuku
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 17:32
Originally posted by Kurfist Kurfist wrote:

Seeing as this thread has become  a  argument, let me throw my two cents in.  /me throws two penny's at Faya. Now let me say what I want to say, this is just a game.  Now granted I will be slightly irritated if someone decides to beat my city into oblivion, but I'd in reality shrug my shoulders and go play on the X box and kill some Nazi Zombies.




Originally posted by Lionz Heartz Lionz Heartz wrote:

Originally posted by Kurfist Kurfist wrote:

Faya

Originally posted by Kurfist Kurfist wrote:

Nazi Zombie




Originally posted by Ryuuku Ryuuku wrote:

I would comment on the Godwinization and misogyny on this thread, but must follow my own advice to ignore the troll.




As you can see, that ship already sailed on page 3.


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 17:44
In my defense the Nazi zombie was in response to some peoples seemingly addiction to this game, and my retort was that if someone "killed" me i would just move on in life, not freak out about the what if's every five seconds.




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Posted By: Sherpa
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2011 at 20:15
Originally posted by Kurfist Kurfist wrote:

We should just stop this debate,  i have a pretty good idea to what it will come to, take a look at Godwins Law

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler Approaches one.."

Clap


Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 05:39
Originally posted by Lionz Heartz Lionz Heartz wrote:

You may have heard of 'The Mercs'? No matter which game they play, they (like H?) make sure no one will take that name.

The Mercs was the alliance that destroyed the GOONs in Darkfallonline btw. They are known for joining new games at launch and exploiting everything to get the best advantage in game to WIN games. Once they announce VICTORY, they leave game and start another. Illyriad and H? is very lucky they did not attempt to play this game or things would have been very different in this game. H? does not compare to the pro gamers of the 'The Mercs'. You thought GOONs were bad for games, 'The Mercs' are far worse.


"Loser" *coughs*



Posted By: James Russell
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 10:11
This is getting boring now, please can someone close this thread....

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Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 11:01
It's the bitter sea bud, you don't have to read it. Seems like some folks round here are still enjoying the vague themes in this thread.

EDIT: I am quite enjoying the exemplarly demonstration of Godwin's Law too... clearly I don't visit the right forums regularly enough, not actually that often I see it.


Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 12:19
Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

Originally posted by Lionz Heartz Lionz Heartz wrote:

You may have heard of 'The Mercs'? No matter which game they play, they (like H?) make sure no one will take that name.

The Mercs was the alliance that destroyed the GOONs in Darkfallonline btw. They are known for joining new games at launch and exploiting everything to get the best advantage in game to WIN games. Once they announce VICTORY, they leave game and start another. Illyriad and H? is very lucky they did not attempt to play this game or things would have been very different in this game. H? does not compare to the pro gamers of the 'The Mercs'. You thought GOONs were bad for games, 'The Mercs' are far worse.


"Loser" *coughs*

Paaah, I bet me and Llyorn could take down these "Merc" guys in like 3 seconds, all you'd have to say is, "We've had girlfriends" and they would all simultaneously implode because they've realised they wasted their life ;)


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Posted By: Ossian
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 12:52
* A troll Lurks Evil Smile


Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 17:29
Originally posted by (EOM) Harry (EOM) Harry wrote:



Paaah, I bet me and Llyorn could take down these "Merc" guys in like 3 seconds, all you'd have to say is, "We've had girlfriends" and they would all simultaneously implode because they've realised they wasted their life ;)


EOM-- You are clearly using a slightly broader, bovid definition of "girlfriend". While I am not one to judge, Lyorn's girlfriends tend to herald from the Ovis Aries genus and species... I think he enjoys them calling him a "baaaaaaaaahd boy"... :)


Posted By: Makanalani
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 00:07
Wow Kumo...that was quite the statement...Shame on ewe:)

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Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 08:57
Originally posted by Kurfist Kurfist wrote:

That may be true, I had something moderately intelligent to write but then I saw your animated picture. Just what is he chewing?


The residue of childrens dreams Kur.

Every time a HM chews.....a fairy dies.


And Kumo...Damn you sir.

In terms only a Jewish Gansgster could understand - Relax ya Batty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLMnX8F45M LOL




Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 09:26
I would like to draw your attention to a point. If that's who Llyorn's Gfriends are..... what about HArry?



Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 22:51
M
Originally posted by Nokigon Nokigon wrote:

I would like to draw your attention to a point. If that's who Llyorn's Gfriends are..... what about HArry?

Please i feel like this could be a great lulz thread, please continue ;)

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Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 02:34
Harry has a girlfirend and Llyorn too? strange


Posted By: Ryuuku
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 04:05
I'm very happy that this thread has jumped over the obvious into the silly. Party


Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2011 at 04:20
I'm very glad that my point has resonated...


Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 06:17
Originally posted by Gemley Gemley wrote:

Harry has a girlfirend and Llyorn too? strange
Harry IS my girlfriend Gem.


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 06:38
Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

Originally posted by Gemley Gemley wrote:

Harry has a girlfirend and Llyorn too? strange
Harry IS my girlfriend Gem.
I seem to remember another quote:

Originally posted by KUMOMOTO KUMOMOTO wrote:

EOM- you are clearly using a slightly broader, bovid definition of "girlfriend". While I am not one to judge, Lyorn's girlfriends tend to herald from the Ovis Aries genus and species... I think he enjoys them calling him a "baaaaaaaaahd boy"... :)

Ohhhhhh dear. Harry is a sheep.



Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 16:10
Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

Originally posted by Gemley Gemley wrote:

Harry has a girlfirend and Llyorn too? strange
Harry IS my girlfriend Gem.
Wait i thought you were the girl in this relationship?


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Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2011 at 20:19
Oh god! Harry is deeply confused.


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 01:31
I think LOJ is saying his girlfriend is hairy.


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 06:53
Now I'm confused....


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 11:54
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

I think LOJ is saying his girlfriend is hairy.
Call me picky, but I'd not like a bald girlfriend.


Posted By: (EOM) Harry
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 19:08
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

I think LOJ is saying his girlfriend is hairy.
Call me picky, but I'd not like a bald girlfriend.
Depends in what section they are bold ;)


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Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart.


Posted By: Carl Zeis
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 20:07
I see what he did there ;P


Posted By: kicking5251
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 22:59
this conversation is getting pretty  hilarious LOL


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2011 at 23:12
Hug


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Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 00:25
i completely dont understand this conversation


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 19:54
It's OK, Gemley. It's OK....


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2011 at 19:58
/me pats gemley

there there


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Posted By: kicking5251
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2011 at 02:43
where we supposed to understand it?

/me looks guilty


Posted By: Kurfist
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2011 at 02:57
idk.




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Posted By: John Louis
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2011 at 14:42
A VERY DELAYED DEFENCE - I only joined the forum today.

OK, I am the same John Louis that Druss The Legend was complaining about on page 1.
I can only laugh at Lionz Heartz comments; is total ignorance really bliss? Maybe for the very foolish!!
If anyone cares (and I don't expect many ppl do) there were some misunderstandings and misgivings between Druss and I. These have all been resolved after he attacked me; it was a revenge attack on me as I had left GOONIES and was joining CURSE OF THE WOLVES (of course he didn't know this).
We negotiated and resolved our differences AMICABLY. It could have turned very bloody but it did NOT. Druss the Legend still lives - he was not destroyed by the GOONIES or CURSE.
Both GOONIES and CURSE advised me to negotiate with him and reach a resolution. Anyone who says differently naturally was not privy to my alliance communications - these ppl are obviously warmongers and should be treated with the utmost caution (you know who you are...LH do I hear you cackling???)
There we go, I feel much better already.



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