And more importantly, do you have any proof?

Don't think it's fair to accuse someone without explaining the netire situation.

 

If that wasn't enough yesterday I received a mail from Thor who said

 

     " I sincerely apologise for the upcoming attack but my leader Taron has given me the

      kill order...I am sorry that I am doing this but he won't tell  any other members the

      order  but me...he would have banned me from the rank and file of the alliance if I did

      not  do this...

 

Thor has sent three attacks. One from each of his cities. Only then will Taron send a seige attack.

 

This is just plain aggression and is typical of the way Aesir  thumbs its nose at the community.

 

DO YOU HAVE PROOF ??

or did you just delete the system mails by accident (it happens a lot lately)

 

 

Select the entire mail by placing the mouse cursor at the very beginning of the mail, press and hold the mouse button while dragging the cursor to the end of the message-this should highlight the mail in blue to indicate that the text has now been selected.  Then right click the highlighted text and select Copy from the menu that appears.

 

Then come to this forum thread and select Post Reply and then in the reply text box, right click and Select Paste.  While editing the Reply, the pasted text might not appear.  Just press Post Reply and you should see the message correctly pasted into the forum.

- nearest non-hostile alliance member,

- anyone who has posted here with their world name (not me, I restarted and the old accounts haven't been deleted yet)

I am dealing with a lot of this type of stuff myself and I also find that people tend to lie a lot because it is easy to change the message before you forward same.

There should be some kind of way to forward a Print Screen ingame as proof.

The fact is that if someone tells you that they have been attacked and you stand up for that player you need to have solid proof that same happened.

otherwise it will just make you look silly. 

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btb - all the armies will do is steal your basics.  The first army took most of what you had.  Just relax (hard to do) and let these other armies pass thru. 

 

Talk in email to the leader of the attacking alliance.  Be polite and respectful at all times.  Find out what the issues are...think about how you can help them with their concerns...suggest ways how they can help you with your concerns.

 

However if Taron IS  the leader and, according to Thor in the mail i posted above, can compel him to attack single players on pain of being removed from the alliance then he clearly does have power within the alliance. I think you are deliberately misleading the community here G0ds. If you read Thor's mail he is actually apologising for attacking me and implies that he is being made to do it. So that attack comes from Aesir.

 

If people read the mail again you will see that in Aesir the leader, probably with G0ds knowledge will victimise his own members to attack single players or face being removed from the alliance. That shows the level of aggression and victimisation that goes on in that alliance. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone.

One. Aesir are my friends, and I know for a fact that Aesir have not sent out a wide mail ordering an attack- I'm a sitter on an Aesir account.

Two. This is a game people! Remember that!

Three: I have a friend who tells me a lot about Aesir, and he loves the alliance. So where is the victimisation there?

Four: Have you actually talked to Taron yet?

Five: People.... will you please stop stirring up wars and things! Causing agravation, well.. I know lots of people are going to say about CHAMP, but I did my best to not agravate people in that thread.

3. Yes this is a game ,but it one where the community cares very much about how it is played. That is why issues such as attacks on single players and victimisation are important.

4. I have sent him a mail when I first saw the attack but he didn't respond. Then I was hit by 3 000 troops. Next I saw 3 more incomings and received Thors mail.  After that will come the seige mentioned in Thors mail. Taking all that into account do you really think that he is going to say sorry and stop if the Community don't intervene. Of course you don't!

Oh, and also.... You said earlier taht Aesir abused it's members. That's stirring up a war.

 

More or less what you are saying is that one of Aesir's members randomly attacked you, and when you questioned him the member said he was only following orders.

For the public this is not enough information, have you had dealings with Aesir in the past? Perhaps you said something about them in Global which they intepreted as an insult.

 

-Mak

 

G0ds also appears to blame me for this whole incident by accusing me of insulting Taron in Chat. I don't have any screen shots of the number of times that Taron insulted me but I'll bet many of you reading this will recall him going through a phase of spamming chat by repeatedly claiming that he was dragging or eating or dancing with the body of Redfist. Is that what this all about?

 

-Mak

To summarise this thread so far. I have reported that I was attacked by Taron the leader of Aesir.  I have provided evidence of that as well as a mail which shows that one of the Aesir accounts was ordered to  attack me on pain of being removed from the their alliance.

A number of players said that I shouldn’t accuse an alliance of attacking single players without providing evidence which I did.

The response from various members of Aesir is that I must have done or said something in global chat to have deserved 4 attacks, the threat of a siege and whole lot of vilification. Although they have required me to justify every thing I have said at very turn they have not provided any evidence whatsoever to support their counterclaim that I done or said something so serious as to   warrant this kind of treatment.

 

Global chat is always prone to people who spam or make insulting comments not least Taron himself.  For example his repeated antics which involved regularly turning up with a dead body in tow. Doing who knows what with it. His latests preoccupation with Cactus. These are both examples which many players will have seen and some have complained about. I am not a saint when it comes to Global Chat but I have never done anything which justifies the attck of an entire alliance.

 

Where is your proof Aesir and more to the point where is your leader Taron. Why hasn’t he tried to defend  himself.

 

*whole

 

 

Lets take a look see at whats really going on.... Here is Thor, The one Brag calls an account (which is insulting to Thor)

 Lets see the whole message that Thor, not the sccount, sent:

Sent By:	Thor
Received By:	Bragdush the Bald
Sent:	11MAR11 19:15
Subject:	Sincere Apology
Bragdush the Bald, I sincerely apologies for the up coming attacks but My leader Taron has gave me the kill order. I am just a trader in the alliance but I have been order to send armies until his returns so he can send a seige. I am sorry that I am doing this but he wont tell any other members the order but me, he would of banned me from rank and alliance if my armies did not leave the cities to attack yours. I like the power I have. Again I am sorry that my armies are attacking you but his orders where to have you destroyed and ruined for classified reasons. Good luck on the fields of battle. Thor, Geri.

 

So yes I did tell one of my best men to attack this account (lol)

But with all this happening I must inform those who posted why this single account that had three other accounts before it do the same things and eventually give up as well. Bragdush the Bald AKA RedFist, his name at least a year ago was destroyed by the Aesir because his alliance decided not to help a stub rein little account (lol) that talks the talk but cant walk what he says. So yes I admit Thor and I have been sending armies to attack.

 

But it has come to my attention that he has also retaliated back to get some one to help or himself to fight here are some nice messages:

Sent By:	System
Received By:	Taron
Sent:	16MAR11 04:54
Subject:	Sabotage at Vanhalla!

 

I did not car enough to keep the others cause I like a clean mail box. But I have had more then five sabotages and thefts but did not car for t dosent matter to me.

 

So RedFist sense you decided to just try and make me look like a total asdfgaf I will now reconsider Vipers request sense you are still trying to fight me for the actions you brought upon

I did not get any mail from this account.

 

I Taron and my friends Thor, Blood Pool, and Destroyer and others played this game in high school. So yes we are youngens and dont think much of others while we where playing, we would just pass time in are classes on this game. We slowly built up every day with the 30 mins we had. I eventualy got my brother in college to play, Lord Satan and Scourchingice. I built the alliance Aesir. Destroyer, Thor and my brothers joined and our other class mates went to other alliances. We built it up not knowing what we where doing so the members could do as they wanted as they still can within bounds sense I learned alot with being leader. So sense I aloud any actions I did my own actions. I was the first to build an army and start "farming" as it was called. I would go raid towns that where inactive. I would go around to towns stealling all of there sources sens they werent using them. I was running out of places cause I would take faster then I could let them regenerate, so I needed alternative way to get more resources, so I expanded. I attacked a good sir which I cant rember his name but he instantly sent me a message saying he was playing so I told him I was sorry and never attacked again. This made a problem that meant I had to go farther out to get resources. RedFist... That was the next city I saw. I thought this could be an inactive account and didnt think of asking casue the multiple others befor never responded. I sent my army, destroying RedFist and stealing very little resources. Instead of getting a questionable mail I got "hate mail" a Dwarf city no bigger then mine at the time sending a message saying I was a kin slayer and that he would "hang my beard from a wind mill and polish his windows" kinda weird but I replayed that I was sorry and didnt know he was active. But he went on insulting me so I just talk to the Weald Societys Leader. He said someone else attacked him before. I would say well I feel bad now but then this RedFist keapt insulting and pushed onto tell our alliances went to war. This War was small sense we all just started playing but Aesir where winning. So the leader decided to cut the head of the problem off by kicking RedFist from the alliance, leaving him defeancless. Me and my brothers saw the oppertunity (Destroyer was inactive so Lord Satan was sitting his account) and attacked non stop. we did this for bout three days until I got a message. Funny thing though it wasnt from RedFist, but from a member from another alliance. He asked me to stop very kindly and said that RedFist has been crying to him about how the Aesir where attacking him and how he wanted to join my alliance. I said yes to the first and a Hell no to the second. We stoped attacking and left him alone for months.

 

Later on though when my alliance now got an old friend back, Blood Pool, we had problems again. There was a new name but the same attitude. Arawn and Ossian started talking trash bout Aesir and would insult me in global chat. Destroyer notice at first that these accounts sounded alot like RedFist. Which we found out it was. We didnt care because... Well I never realy do care much. So we left it alone and if he would insult us in Global chat we would just bring up REdFist and laugh at RedFist about it.

 

 

Now moderate time, Bragdush the Bald, AKA RedFist has gone at insulting me again so this time I took action. Trying very hard to be nice so I decided no more "talk talk talk time for War war war" (Bragdush the Balds quote in another forum). I went on the war march now and now do not intended to stop for how this is going I talked to viper and was going to stop but now...... I need more time to think.. Might make my armies march a bit more..... with Weapons of Destruction (aka sieges perhaps?).

 

Hope you guys enjoyed the story! Lololololololololol

 

I think there's a kettle whose pigmentation you have questioned out there... ;)

Taron cannot really justify Aesirs attack on my City. You have read his explanation and the best he can do is to try and demonise me by raising some story  about differences that he had with some long defunct account.  He uses the name Redfist, and others as his excuse and paints them as trolls and spammers of mail and chat.  Most readers will ask who is Redfist?   Many know of the names One or Two or Lionz Heartz but no one has heard of Redfist.  Maybe he would done better if he accused me of being someone more infamous lol

All through this sorry and increasingly boring thread the Aesir have contradicted themselves.

For Example I claimed that Aesir victimised its own members into attacking single players and copied the mail from Thor making it clear that he would be kicked from his alliances if he didn’t attack me This was rejected by G0destroyer in his post 14 Mar 2011 at 03:03 where he said

But Taron actually gives the game away

 

Both Taron's and G0destroyer's account are so at odds with each other that is plain to see that they just making it up as they go along

So what  was the real reason behind the attack?  Below  is the truth in Godsdestroyer commenting in another topic

There you have it . They have done it at least once and if YOU let the get away with it they will do it again and again.  Not only do they attack single players without reason. They victimise those on their alliance who are reluctant to go along

An Alliance that behaves like that should not be tolerated. They should be disbanded for the good of Illyriad

 

I rest my case

 

I think it's time that the Aesir were brought to book. If you let them get away with it now. They will only go and do the same to someone else.

 

This is my last post on this particular thread irregardless

Its getting annoying logging into the forum and seeing people post a topic about being attacked by a different player.

Solve it your selfs , talk to the attacker first or fight back.

People should also remember that this is just a game

Good luck and Peace. 

You sir are a loser you has nothing better to than post rants on how people destroyed you in a game...........  

So do everyone a favor and just GO AWAY 

I seem to have caught the flu that's going around...

Otherwise find other accounts that the ENTIRE Aesir Alliance has attacked, make them say so on the forum and then I will admit to being a total jerk and a bully that should be punished.

 

BUT! You should also admit that you played as RedFist, Arawn and Ossian or what ever that O name was.

 

He wants more War War War but he only has Jaw Jaw Jaw.

 

I say post it and censor this mail you got to show everyone the nice RedFist Jaw he has which got him destroyed, which is also why hes been attacked again for the jaw he has.