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Topic: 28FEB11 - NATURE & NPC EXPANSION
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Subject: 28FEB11 - NATURE & NPC EXPANSION
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 16:39
28FEB11 - NATURE & NPC EXPANSION

Hi all,

You may have noticed over the last day or so, but if not - we've expanded the seeding of nature units onto the map, and greatly expanded the types of unit that are seeded.

These new Nature and semi-monstrous units are sympathetic to the Geography and Biomes in Illyriad, as well as sympathetic (although for the sake of gameplay, not completely accurately) to natural cluster sizes.

The size returned by clicking on a Nature spawn is now entirely relative to the number of units on the square and so is no longer an accurate measure of difficulty between different spawn types.  To explain: "A Handful of Wild Dogs" remains an easy kill; however "A Handful of Mammoths" is going to be more diffiult.

Whilst this overall geography and biome information is much more visible (and makes much more sense) in UIv2 than in the current User Interface, the new units are available to attack on both interfaces.

130 new units have been added to the existing 15, and Arakvar and Sslipentin (Serpentkin) have been retired from the seeding algorithm as they will be controlled in future via the Faction AI rather than natural (static) seeding. Any troop movements currently underway against Arakvar or Serpentkin will complete as expected.

NPC Mercenary Army Factions (Crimson Dawn, Treggar's Crows, Brotherhood of Kerala, Bayne's Irregulars & Marauding Skullsplitters) will continue to spawn statically on the map for the meantime.

We do plan to add more NPC nature units in time, but this release is the major tranche.

The Units are as follows:

  • WILD DOGS
  • BROWN BEARS
  • WOLVES
  • GIANT SPIDERS
  • GIANT SNAKES
  • POLAR BEARS
  • ARCTIC WOLVES
  • SNOW LEOPARDS
  • ICE SALAMANDERS
  • POISONOUS CRAWLERS
  • GIANT SCUTTLERS
  • SCRITCHERS
  • SCALED CHARGERS
  • SALAMANDERS
  • ANACONDAS
  • JAGUARS
  • LEOPARDS
  • GIANT SCORPIONS
  • ELEPHANTS
  • RHINOCEROS
  • CORAL SNAKES
  • LIONS
  • TIGERS
  • PUMAS
  • COBRAS
  • ALLIGATORS
  • GIANT BEETLES
  • BABOONS
  • FIRE SALAMANDERS
  • GIANT RATS
  • BLACK BEARS

There are, actually, more seeded onto the map than the ones listed above; but we wanted to have some secrets Wink

We have not seeded purely Aquatic creatures onto the map yet, but these will come with the  naval/maritime release.  We have also avoided seeding winged nature onto the map for the moment.

In terms of "what do these creatures do besides wait for us to kill them"... ah well, that all comes later. And mighty fine it is too.

In the meantime, please enjoy your new beasties!

Best wishes,

GM Stormcrow



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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 17:00
RAWR!!!!!
Great Job,
*G0DsDestroyer shall find the first Legion of Mammoths, if they exist!


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Posted By: shaagar
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 17:43
Very good!!!
Just beggining searching for all of them!


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 17:53
Scaled Chargers look like Armadillos.  :)
 
And just like Armadillos, Sacaled Chargers make easy road-kill for Knights.


Posted By: Smoking GNU
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 18:05
Except i'm guessing the "Armadillos" in this game are about 7 feet tall at shoulder height. You'd need some pretty hefty Knights to be able to tackle those.


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 18:25
Actually, I think these 'dillos are farily tame...
 
Sent By: System
Received By: The_Dude
Sent: 28FEB11 00:52
Subject: Victorious battle against Scaled Chargers (NPCs)'s forces at Square -114|-119 by The_Dude's forces from The Alamo

Two opposing forces clash against each other.

Heavily wooded terrain spells difficulty for ranged units and cavalry. Infantry units find they have a large advantage here.

Like the attackers, these thick forests do not provide much assistance for anyone except your footsoldiers, who take great pleasure in the extra cover afforded to them.

Attackers: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Commander: Knight Knight 1 Damaged for 54, 196 health remains.
Troops: Knights 1000 216 784


Defenders: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Troops: Scaled Chargers 257 257 0
Troops: Armoured Chargers 152 152 0
Troops: Heavy Chargers 144 144 0
Troops: Lightning Chargers 34 34 0


Your victorious troops retrieved:
13956

 


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 18:28
Great jobs GMs- but where are the Unicorns! LOL


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 18:32
Brown Bears are stout...
 
Sent By: System
Received By: El_Jeffe
Sent: 28FEB11 18:26
Subject: Victorious battle against Brown Bears (NPCs)'s forces at Square -121|-109 by El_Jeffe's forces from Enterprise

Two opposing forces clash against each other.

Cavalry comes into its own when able to strike hostile forces at will, and from unexpected directions - and nowhere is this more feasible than on open plains. Lightly armoured spear units, however, prefer terrain where there's some cover available.

Fighting defensively on open plains, cavalry draws strength from the ability to form and reform their lines of engagement depending on the direction of battle, and it is here where cavalry excels.

Attackers: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Commander: Crossbow Crossbowman 1 Damaged for 3, 97 health remains.
Troops: Stalwarts 500 19 481


Defenders: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Troops: Bear Cubs 47 47 0
Troops: Adolescent Grizzlies 24 24 0
Troops: Enraged Kodiaks 13 13 0


Your victorious troops retrieved:
1164
from the slain foes.



Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 19:26
PUMA!!!!

Sent By:System
Received By:G0DsDestroyer
Sent:28FEB11 19:24
Subject:Victorious battle against Pumas (NPCs)'s forces at Square -570|106 by G0DsDestroyer's forces from Ásgarðr

Two opposing forces clash against each other.

Cavalry comes into its own when able to strike hostile forces at will, and from unexpected directions - and nowhere is this more feasible than on open plains. Lightly armoured spear units, however, prefer terrain where there's some cover available.

Fighting defensively on open plains, cavalry draws strength from the ability to form and reform their lines of engagement depending on the direction of battle, and it is here where cavalry excels.

Attackers:Unit:Quantity:Casualties:Survivors:
Commander: ThorKnight1Damaged for 0, 100 health remains.
Troops:Knights5001499

Defenders:Unit:Quantity:Casualties:Survivors:
Troops:Adolescent Pumas770
Troops:Wiry Pumas330


Your victorious troops retrieved:
156
from the slain foes.




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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 19:46
But, but, pumas are BLACK!

I'm so disappointed by this oversight. Cry

Seriously, though, it looks like a wonderful addition to the flora and fauna.


Posted By: Smoking GNU
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 19:51
Panthers are black.

Pumas are what Americans call Mountain Lions.


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 19:53
Originally posted by Smoking GNU Smoking GNU wrote:

Panthers are black.

Pumas are what Americans call Mountain Lions.


Well (as mentioned) we didn't list all the fauna we put into the gameworld.  Many of the rarer spawns weren't listed here!

SC


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 19:53
Puma is another word for Mountain Lion, Panther, and Cougar, if I recall correctly.  Colors vary from Black to Brown/Golden.  Orange however is not a color for this critter.  :)
 
The word used for this beasty varies mostly on the region of America the critter is found...Panther being the preferred term in East Texas and Florida.  Cougar and Moutain Lion used in western US.  Puma for the spanish speaking regions of America.


Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 21:24
Golden Monkeys!!!
Simien Wolves!!!

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Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 21:28
Beware the giant scorpions.. they are GODS!!

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Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 22:57
Ah my pumas are golden...Smile


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2011 at 23:33
By golden, I meant closer to Blond than Orange.  :)


Posted By: KillerPoodle
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 00:03
Golden Puma sounds rude.  Just sayin'


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 01:00
I think you can get a Golden Puma in Tijuana with the right connections.  :)


Posted By: sityviper
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 01:08
found the first found mammoths Big smile -913|961

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Posted By: sityviper
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 01:13
btw... golden moneys!?! how did you get golden monkeys?  Confused

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Posted By: Lord Jon Flamont
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 01:39
Simien Wolves... [848,-202]


Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 04:19
sity.. you were not the first..
 
sorry to break the news to you.


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Posted By: scottfitz
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 20:43
I was the first to see mammoths (after SC that is!)


Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 20:47
Uhm..I just found white tigers....Those are rare right?



Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 20:49
ive found pink bears.

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Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 21:22
One critter Im really missing SC are Scarabs - after the scenes in "The Mummy" I cant help but think that those would be really nasty critters to get around (or through for that matter).

That and they are in ancient Egypt considered to be "holy" in some form - I was thinking theyd go well with the naked sandy dunes of Kumala.


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 21:44
Originally posted by Tordenkaffen Tordenkaffen wrote:

One critter Im really missing SC are Scarabs - after the scenes in "The Mummy" I cant help but think that those would be really nasty critters to get around (or through for that matter).

That and they are in ancient Egypt considered to be "holy" in some form - I was thinking theyd go well with the naked sandy dunes of Kumala.


We have scarab-like beetles down in the southern jungles.

But yes, you're correct in that the Desert biomes haven't been seeded yet; this is partly because (as you may have noticed!) there aren't really any NPC spawn points in the desert atm :)

But we do have Desert-specific NPCs ready to go - once we place the NPC squares throughout the deserts.

SC


Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 21:48
Excellence!


Posted By: LadyLuvs
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 15:35
Think we can get some Yetis and/or Abominable Snow Creatures to kill?  


Posted By: lianosk
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 16:00
HAHAHAHAHA.... That's really cool.....Clap


Posted By: yahweh
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 22:13

Ok i was super excited about these but there has to be something wrong with the damage calc.  i sent 1500 troops and they killed more of mine than there was total of theirs

Attackers: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Commander: Lancelot Knight 1 Damaged for 7, 193 health remains.
Troops: Militiamen 189 7 182
Troops: Pikemen 235 9 226
Troops: Swordsmen 189 7 182
Troops: Men-at-Arms 235 9 226
Troops: Archers 189 7 182
Troops: Longbowmen 194 7 187
Troops: Charioteers 137 5 132
Troops: Knights 95 3 92


 
Defenders: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Troops: Leopard Cubs 25 25 0
Troops: Young Leopards 20 20 0
Troops: Fully Grown Leopards 12 12 0
Troops: Elder Leopards 9 9 0


Your victorious troops retrieved:
1752
from the slain foes.



Posted By: GM ThunderCat
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 22:18
Originally posted by yahweh yahweh wrote:

Ok i was super excited about these but there has to be something wrong with the damage calc.  i sent 1500 troops and they killed more of mine than there was total of theirs
You may want to stay away from them there Mammoths then... Wink


Posted By: yahweh
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2011 at 22:57
Than You Thundercat I will keep that in mind.  So I guess they are just a bit harder than they use to be. I  thought leopards would be easier  but its all good


Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 04:43
[04:38] <duuvian>I wonder if they could make dragons collect treasure or something, and that way you'd have to have your army occupy the square while you send caravans
[04:39] <duuvian>er I mean, have dragons drop treasure like the gathering resources
[04:39] <duuvian>in addition to the gold the army pockets
[04:40] <duuvian>that way there would be a reason to stay at a distant, valuable spot while your army guards it
[04:40] <duuvian>sort of like random flags


Posted By: Smoking GNU
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 10:12
First we need dragons
Haven't seen any so far.


Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 10:52
An alliance member of mine in ARR said he saw then killed a small group of dragon, which were apparently quite strong and killed half his army.  He said they were called Earth Dragons.

You can send Wooga a message if you would like to ask him about it.


Posted By: bartimeus
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 12:19
 found white tiger....
much less cool than dragons... could someone post a picture?




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Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 13:39
Yay for me!

Attackers:Unit:Quantity:Casualties:Survivors:
Commander: CastilleMarshal1Damaged for 5, 95 health remains.
Troops:Marshals19410184
Commander: CastenadaPhalanx1Damaged for 5, 95 health remains.
Troops:Elven Trueshots31017293
Commander: CervantesElven Trueshot1Damaged for 5, 95 health remains.
Troops:Phalanxes37420354
Troops:Wardancers22112209

Defenders:Unit:Quantity:Casualties:Survivors:
Troops:Young Mammoth13130
Troops:Adult Mammoths990
Troops:Enraged Tuskers330

Man what a waste of time - But it was fun nonetheless ^^


Posted By: Smoking GNU
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 19:16
Originally posted by Duuvian Duuvian wrote:

An alliance member of mine in ARR said he saw then killed a small group of dragon, which were apparently quite strong and killed half his army.  He said they were called Earth Dragons.

You can send Wooga a message if you would like to ask him about it.


I'd believe this if it came with a BR copy/paste and a location for the hit (so we can see the biom location for the dragon and we can look ourselves)


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 19:47
Given that dragons are in fact listed in the faction info, I don't think it's that far fetched to say the NPC exists. If it follows the faction info, they'd be very rare too. Everyone should keep their eyes out for dragons. =D


Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 20:12
what kind of dragons are they? fire brething dragons? dragons with/without wings?

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Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 20:12
I'm a bit confused, since I just found some Arakvar. Help?
They've just turned into giant spiders. What are the difference anyway, BTW?


Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 20:15
those are spiders.

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Posted By: Lord Loss
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 21:05
Where are the Polar bears located?
 So I might go out a slay them!!


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Posted By: Tordenkaffen
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 22:59
Noki - Arakvar are a faction - attacking them may have consequences with other factions. Spiders are spiders - for leisure killing.

Edit* Lord Loss - Polar bears can be found basically all over the northern snowcovered region of Illy.


Posted By: Lord Loss
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2011 at 23:07
Aye 

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Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2011 at 06:27
Originally posted by Smoking GNU Smoking GNU wrote:

Originally posted by Duuvian Duuvian wrote:

An alliance member of mine in ARR said he saw then killed a small group of dragon, which were apparently quite strong and killed half his army.  He said they were called Earth Dragons.

You can send Wooga a message if you would like to ask him about it.


I'd believe this if it came with a BR copy/paste and a location for the hit (so we can see the biom location for the dragon and we can look ourselves)


Star

[18:13] <kung fu>Naivuud have hit a couple of the new animals and bugs
[01:27] <Wooga>hi
[01:34] <Wooga>OMG
[01:35] <Wooga>when I went to check my map I saw a earth dragon =O
[01:40] <Wooga>just one so I am assuming it's strong
[01:40] <Wooga>report in 40 min
[02:23] <Wooga>half of my army is dead OMG
[02:23] <Wooga>275 men
[03:22] <liberty6>wooga you on
[03:25] <Wooga>hi
[03:26] <Wooga>no I am not on....
[03:28] <Wooga>brb in 30min cya
[03:29] <liberty6>damn ill be gone message for ya coming
[03:39] <medalofdeath>bye all sorry for the drop in
[11:17] <naivuud>wow, you killed a dragon Wooga?
[11:18] <naivuud>I haven't seen anything cool like that yet, I'm ure it will happen sometime, but that's pretty cool
[16:00] <kung fu>nor me
[19:01] <KillianBlack>Scuttlers.... is the only new one for me so far... but I am looking...
[00:04] <Wooga>I guess it's just in an spusifec area
[00:04] <kung fu>so far i have killed Fire salamanders, leopards,giant beetles, lions, baboons
[00:04] <kung fu>I want a dragon :)
[00:06] <Wooga>oh your on yaaaayyyy
[00:09] <Wooga>OMG
[00:10] <kung fu>what
[00:10] <Wooga>spotted a ICE DRAGON
[00:10] <Wooga>this time several
[00:10] <kung fu>not funny i want 1
[00:10] <Wooga>well me too
[00:11] <kung fu>the biggest thing here is rhino
[00:12] <kung fu>o spotted elephants
[00:14] <Wooga>oh spoted a homosapion
[00:18] <Wooga>did you raelly spot a elephant?
[00:18] <kung fu>golden monkeys loads of elephants
[00:19] <Wooga>?
[00:20] <kung fu>sorry loads of them and golden monkeys
[00:21] <Wooga>oh
[00:23] <kung fu>-489 -800 for elephants around this area there is loads
[00:23] <Wooga>gtg my brake time is over
[00:24] <kung fu>later
[09:19] <KillianBlack>Poisonous crawlers now dead.... going to look and see what is around now...
[09:21] <KillianBlack>Saw Giant Rats, and Pumas but not enough to worry about....



Posted By: Smoking GNU
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2011 at 09:32
Still no location so we can look for ourselves. Still sceptic.

And yes, Dragonkin is a faction, yet the things we are seeing and killing are not faction related, they are normal animals and monsters.


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2011 at 10:35
GMs, put us out of our misery. Are there dragons?


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2011 at 10:45
Oh, yay! I've found an NPC not mentioned by the GM's. Golden Monkey. I found a pack at -526, -699. The picture is this:


Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2011 at 15:23
Originally posted by Nokigon Nokigon wrote:

GMs, put us out of our misery. Are there dragons?


Apart from what we've said already about NPC Nature/Monstrous and/or Factions... I'm afraid we're not going to comment further, and the misery shall continue Wink

SC


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2011 at 17:36
So he found an earth dragon and an ice dragon shortly after when no one else seems to have seen one? That's a bit of a red flag. Not saying it's not possibly but seems a little far fetched. 


Posted By: Smoking GNU
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 08:17
Like i said, no BR, no location posting, sceptic


Posted By: Nokigon
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2011 at 08:39
Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Originally posted by Nokigon Nokigon wrote:

GMs, put us out of our misery. Are there dragons?


Apart from what we've said already about NPC Nature/Monstrous and/or Factions... I'm afraid we're not going to comment further, and the misery shall continue Wink

SC
GMs, you have a cruel streak...
 
Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

So he found an ice dragon and an earth dragon shortly after no-one seems to have found one? That's a bit of a red flag. Not saying it's not possible but seems a little far-fetched.
 
Yeah, I see where you're coming from.


Posted By: KillianBlack
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2011 at 03:26
Polar Bears at 893|477, Arctic Wolves at 891|466, Mammoths at 820|426, Snow Leopards at 445|933 Just some of the things I found looking around...


Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 14:57
Originally posted by G0DsDestroyer G0DsDestroyer wrote:

RAWR!!!!!
Great Job,
*G0DsDestroyer shall find the first Legion of Mammoths, if they exist!

Don't you know... mammoths are extinct. Cry


Posted By: xBloodxPoolx
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 06:04
This is awesome I love the new NPC's. The only thing is, what are some of them? Are some of them just made up creatures? 


Posted By: lokifeyson
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2011 at 21:53
Golden Monkeys Rule the Tropics ;)

yeah idk aren't all the races (besides humans) "made up" :D


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Posted By: Duuvian
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2011 at 18:59
This was towards the center in the SW region.

Mission Report:
Your diplomatic mission was undetected and completed the objective! Your units are on their way home, safe and sound.

Information Gathered:

Troop levels present, foreign reinforcements:

Type:Unit:Quantity:
NPC's forces from NPC Town
Army: A Gathering of Poisonous Crawlers

Troops:Small Poisonous Crawlers93
Troops:Adult Crawler58
Troops:Spitting Crawlers10
Troops:Crawler Queens1

I haven't attacked them yet, this is just a scout report.


Posted By: Lord Loss
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2011 at 20:12
How strong is a massive pack of scarabs?

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