H? attacks upon me
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Category: The World
Forum Name: Politics & Diplomacy
Forum Description: If you run an alliance on Elgea, here's where you should make your intentions public.
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Topic: H? attacks upon me
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Subject: H? attacks upon me
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2011 at 18:14
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I logged on earlier today, after getting a much neded rest "courtesy of GM grpyhon" to discover that H?'s leader Kumo is assaulting me. I honestly have no idea why, I admit I was being a bit of an ass last night and apologies to the GM"s and kumo and what ever the newbie's name is "cidi something". If someone cold come forward and explain in a clean way explain this tiuation ------------- It's just a game. :) |
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Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2011 at 18:58
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It is what it is.
If you have not figured it out by yourself yet... This gaming community is filled with boring personalities. Outgoing personalities in this game are targeted by the introverts of this game. Players that lack the coolness in real life, try to push their boring personalities onto others in this game. So, in short... Most of the players that chat in this game are boring and lack the "cool factor" in real life. Attila, this is a wonderful game. It really is... However, the current state of the game is controlled by the most boring, annoying, and uncool player base I have ever seen. Attila, you are better off just leaving the game till this player base dies out. And I would like to /bow on my great ending by changing the name on my towns. Just the thought of all of the curse members seeing that name in their mails was a great way for me to end a game like this. The sense or lack of judgement for a player base like this to attack a person based on their personality differing from them is absurd. In real life, this would not happen. These players would go to jail for such acts in real life. I believe in "freedom of speech" and no matter how annoying someone is, I would rather choose to ignore them, then to kill them. So, in short, this player base is filled with sadistic personalities that lack the "cool factor" in this game. Now, not all of the player base is like this since most of them have not chatted. However, I am referring to the player base that has power and talks often in the forums and in global chat. If only this game could replicate MOD Strategos personality into every player that lacks it in this game. Too bad, no matter how much code the GMs put in this game, it will not fix the abyss of bad personalities in this game. To end, Attila, find another hobby man. You are too outgoing to fit in this game. The introverts will attack you no matter what. Peace. |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2011 at 19:21
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Peace indeed. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 01:44
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Still around LH? Does that mean that you're still playing under a different name? I sure wish people wouldn't go back on what they said. Pretty sure LH said he was no longer playing the game. He has no reason to be here if he has quit. It's not his concern. ------------- http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Profile?gamertag=G0DsDestroyer" rel="nofollow - Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 05:47
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I was just agreeing with what he said. Though there is truth in your words. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 06:23
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Why not PM him and ask? Why bother starting a thread about it? |
Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 10:59
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When we copy Strategos's personality in all off us, will there be more colours then, for clearing out some off those posts with that special "cool factor" ? "freedom of speech" ends there, where other people are attacked personally! I'm not that active in chat (and don't know, what exactly you said to upset Kumo), but concluding from some forum post, Attila, you tend to some outburst... please try to weaken those a bit, instead of apologizing afterwards. Some words are difficult to make unsaid... And Lionz, if you don't like those people in the forums, why are you still around. I don't have problems with it, I'm just curious.  Nice and kindly (again...) Hora |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 12:26
I see with that name of yours, you also have developed a GOD complex as to who should play this game or not. Whenever I read something unjust in this game, it makes me want to post. Attila does go overboard sometimes with his posts, but that is Attila. That is who he is and what he is about. Do not change your personality for nobody Attila. Just be you! And if a game full boring people try to change your personality, do not let them bring you down. This goes for anyone in this game. |
G0DsDestroyer wrote:Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 12:43
To be perfectly honest, I have always loved this game but... I have considered to quit this game because of the boring and sadistic player base we have on many occasions. What is the point of training new players when in the end the same boring, introvert, and sadistic player base will siege these new players because they have a different personality than theirs? Oh yeah that will help the player base grow a lot. I chose MOD Strategos, because he is a pretty open guy and does not let anything bother him. Unlike most of the community here, they will get upset over someone saying "The" the wrong way in a sentence. The thing is people can get offended over anything. This player base is just like that, they get upset over the most petty things and it is pretty sad to be honest. Same can be said about most of the members in Curse. I quit the alliance because they were just too annoying and could not handle their petty personalities anymore. In the end, I was glad I left them. They sieged a player that did so much for their alliance. Acted like he had did nothing. Basically, they tried to take credit for everything I did for themselves. Did not appreciate much and they only thought of themselves. So, yeah I have had some solid reasons as to why I left. But just like a heartbroken person, they reacted harshly and sieged my towns. So that is why I said before, if anyone is not a leader of an alliance, do not try hard at all. Keep all of your good ideas to yourself. Do just enough to make the alliance happy. If you are a leader, then go all out. Anyways, I feel this player base is lacking and if you feel someone should get shot in the face because they hurt your feelings, then you need thicker skin and a pacifier (lol and a prison sentence). Again Attila, just be you and do not let these control freaks bring you down. No game is worth changing your personality for. |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 14:01
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Something has been really on my mind for awhile now in regards to some players in Curse.
I have been suspicious of Tanis and Brenth... Along with their other Wise members that have joined Curse. Ever since they have joined, they have done some things that I look back now which make so much sense. Tanis once told me that a spy is someone that tries to cause turmoil in an alliance. I believe Tanis and Bren'th did just that. In the end, they put Iduna and I against each other. They I am sure wanted me to be gone. You see, Tanis and Brenth only have one account and Iduna promoted them to a high rank. I tried to get them to make two accounts before and they declined. Any alliance in their right mind should not promote a player to a high rank until they have put two accounts in their alliance. I would not be surprised to see players (Tanis and Bren'ths)overtaking Iduna and taking over Curse as their baby. |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 15:05
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Attila--
As you yourself admit, you were being an ass. You did NOT apologize. And this is far from the first time. The bottom line is you were making borderline racist comments and this, on top of your abject rudeness, on top of the fact that you have sent multiple blatantly sexist, rude, and frankly out and out mean emails to one of my female alliance mates, gives me all the reason in the world to attack you.
I only sent two armies. H? did NOT attack you. Otherwise you'd have 200 armies coming for you.
I'm not sure of all the reasons that GM gave you a 12 hour ban, but the stated reason was that you were advertising another game in GC and were warned and were banned.
I'm surprised you weren't banned long earlier when all of your racist ranting was going on.
While I feel sorry for your bipolar condition, in my opinion it's not an excuse. If you're feeling bad, then stay off of chat until you feel better.
Actions have consequences. You better learn that.
And if you do plan to leave, I suggest doing so in a less juvenile fashion than LH.
Kumo
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Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 15:35
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Lionz, thats a very sad attempt of blackmailing, and totally off-topic... If a person concentrates on one account, just let him, it's not your matter... Many big players neglect one account, if the whole stuff gets too busy (especially when doing a high rank in an ally). So if you don't like the game, don't try to make it bad for others, thats would show a very poor character...  |
Posted By: Smoking GNU
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 16:20
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Oh dear, LH is at it again. I thought he left the game, yet here we hear the "Nobody wants to do as i think they should so they are all boring and imperialist" QQ all over again. Also, off topic dude. |
Posted By: Anjire
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 17:13
reminds me of the song: Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, Down goes the first one, down goes the second one, I bite off the heads, and suck out the juice, Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, |
Posted By: lorre
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 17:27
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so cause this game isnt like tribalwars or whatver the playerbase isnt cool? u rather have a average gametime of like 3 months or something before u get wiped out by bigger players just cause they want to expand? ------------- The battlefield is a scene of constant chaos. The winner will be the one who controls that chaos, both his own and the enemies. Napoleon Bonaparte |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 17:59
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"U no like me. Everyone is mean! Everyine is mean and sadistic and personality-less! Atilla personality good! Good have personality! Matter not what one say as long as haz personality! Words no mean nufink! Words only mean personality!" Lionz: In the words of the great Honored Mule : If all your relationships are failing, look at the common denominator. Atila: You're getting your arse kicked because you deserve it. Simple as that pal. |
Posted By: Ossian
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 18:30
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This thread is descending into peurile rhymes and Lynch mob mentality. Shouldn't this be in "The Bitter Sea". It makes for very poor pnp. Can we have it closed.
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Posted By: Strategos
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 20:02
Looks like politics to me. ------------- Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis |
Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 20:04
Since when are sadists boring? |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 21:18
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This thread drifted from what the purpose was, @kumo I never sent out any sexist emails or insults to Ladyluvs. She gives off the annoying manner that because she's senior i should be kissing her arse.
For the 12 hour suspension. King strider was ASKING me what game he woudl like, which he likes shooter/action mmporgs. In which case i was responding to it when i was so harslhy banned. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: threefoothree
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2011 at 22:28
wow, you got banned? i only heard of people being temporarily suspended. grats on that! 
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Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 00:08
Lylorn Of Jaensch, from the great Lionz Heartz, "I do not listen to nerds that hide behind a PC." I have never respected Honored Mule since I found out about his cheating ways. Oh yeah stealing username and password information in your own alliance due to an add-on speaks to me as a great character. As for you Lawn, I have never respected you from day one. So from the great Lionz Heartz, "hide behind your glorified H? alliance because you have nothing beyond that in your life." The only reason people even pretend to like you is because you are in H?, otherwise your smart ass would be sent packing like everyone else. Oh and back to Kumo, GOONS for Life!!! Yes that is right, go GOONS! GOONs from EVE not Fayas Goonies. |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 01:10
| Go goons? In Illy or Eve? |
Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 01:50
If you're going to dream up arbitrary slander, you could at least get my name right. It's HonoredMule. No space. |
Posted By: Mr. Ubiquitous Feral
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 02:02
I thought I was the annoying one? I go away for a couple weeks and you guys are falling apart! ------------- I am a Machine. |
Posted By: kicking5251
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 02:54
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Feral you are not really annoying just have a tendency to say so many funny things that the "boring" think you are spamming as for the main topic my only comment is that apparently I am a boring person that cant handle RL and have decided to MAKE EVERYONE IN THIS GAME PAY!!  if you feel so strong about it then join 0-0 prisoners of society kicking
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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 03:11
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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 03:13
| LH-- I have no problems with Goons in Eve! Fight alongside them quite often, actually! (I'm in Morsus Mihi) |
Posted By: Iduna
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 17:21
first : having just one account is somethng I wish I had done when I started this game....two accounts is a lot of work and in my personal view, the second account is left far behind the first account. second : both Tanis and Bren'th have showed to have qualities you never had or will have, hence their promotion to commander....which did not happen over night, your obvious jealousy is your downfall. third.......if an account get's suspended from the game should same not be suspended from the forums aswell ??!! and last but not least, the names you gave your cities just show how sad you realy are LH/DR, blaming everything on RL and you keep saying you had enough of this game....yet, here you still are. I wouldn't be surprised if you have already started new accounts..... |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 18:00
Simply put, you have never been that great of a leader. And you are not too bright when it comes to spies etc either. Pretty stupid in that regard. Oh and the name of my former cities was not a mirror of my personality but a reflection of how horrible you are and will ever be in real life. I had the GMs suspend both accounts. The names were just a way I wanted to go out with a stupid leader such as yourself. Very stupid. |
Posted By: Makanalani
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 19:14
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Why does the merit of one's real life ever have bearing in how they play an online game? Many people live fruitful lives and enjoy videogames as well. At this point you sound bitter, just return to real life and leave the forums alone. You already said you had quit and this is just getting childish.
-Mak ------------- "Life is a beautiful struggle" -New IGN: Mak (Dark Blight) |
Posted By: Iduna
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 21:44
looks like you got tired of smiling and decided to come back and start a new soap opera... keep your word for once and MOVE ON
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Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 21:53
Here are my terms if you want me to leave: Iduna, you must apologize to me in this forum of all the bad things you have done to me. Iduna, you must admit that Curse will be nothing without me. Iduna, you must admit that I did a lot for Curse that not one member can replace. Iduna, you must admit how good of a personality I have and that you were wrong about sieging my towns. If you apologize for all of these things on this forum, I will stop posting on the forums, and never return to this game. Those are my terms. |
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 22:01
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Bothering everyone when you problem is with Iduna? Not a good idea, you could just leave, then you'd never have to listen to us "boring & uncool" people. Which must be extremely hard for you to do in the first place. You would have done better to leave when everything said about you wasn't bad. ------------- http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Profile?gamertag=G0DsDestroyer" rel="nofollow - Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 22:04
Those are my terms G0Ds. Take it or leave it. |
Posted By: Iduna
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 22:11
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maybe I should just stop posting and feeding this guy.... my bad to reply in this forum in the first place,  so there you go.THE END
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Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 22:15
I guess there you have it. Iduna still wants me to post in these forums. She did not accept these terms. |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2011 at 22:17
Also Iduna, perhaps the main reason as to why I have not got along with you the past month is because you remind me so much of my ex. It is kind of eerie how the both of you are so similar. |
Posted By: Grego
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 00:10
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I dont know why Im reading this crap every time I see new post. Must stop doing that..  |
Posted By: Carl Zeis
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 05:34
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In the words of Winston Churchill: "He never spares himself in conversation. He gives himself so generously that hardly anyone else is permitted to give anything in his presence" |
Posted By: kicking5251
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 09:51
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oh cool quote I got one better though.... better to look a fool than to speak and remove all doubt
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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 16:06
My thoughts exactly...
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Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 18:04
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And yet.. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: threefoothree
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 18:22
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i think we may need a support group and sponsors and a 13 step program illyriad forum Anonymous |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2011 at 18:43
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Hmm? oh no i recieved an abundance of emails and wondered what the hells was going on. nice to see LZ steals my topic and turn it into i love iduna. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: Mr. Ubiquitous Feral
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 00:36
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I have some terms also, may I share?
1) I like chicken.
Oh, I guess its only 1 term, sorry. Also, on topic, I'm nearly 50 yrs old. I'm not required to look cool. ------------- I am a Machine. |
Posted By: Carl Zeis
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 02:08
| I can accept that one! |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 15:46
Hello... my name is Kumo... ("HI KUMO")... I'm a Forum addict (general applause)...
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Posted By: Mr. Ubiquitous Feral
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 23:58
------------- I am a Machine. |
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 00:10
I thought this would be a good time to step in and say that I have made a new 12 step program to overcome addiction to 12 step programs  .------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 00:20
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Hello guys, and kumo, I'm attila, and I'm addicted to the illyriad forums "crys pitifully" ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 15:54
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Attila---
For someone who supposedly likes this game, you have a funny way of showing it:
http://www.gameogre.com/reviewdirectory/reviews/illyriad.php - http://www.gameogre.com/reviewdirectory/reviews/illyriad.php
You write (after trying to retract your trashing of Illyriad earlier) that: "The game is fun, i know it is since i play it, however again once some players dislike you, and them being senior players, the rest usually follow suit".
I presume you are referring to me and/or other players who have been around for a while. What I'm having a serious disconnect with is that they claim to care about sticking around the game, yet are continuously trying to provoke me and others...
Which is it? Do you want to complain about being bullied by older players or are you out to provoke us into sieging you?
If you like the game, you have a funny way of showing it and a seriously poor strategy for surviving in it...
Kumo
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 17:00
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I actually agreed with most of that review...Less so on the last sentence or so but the thing about war and such sounded about right. |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 17:09
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thank you brid. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 18:46
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"it will take you a few months to be able to support an army of 300"...
Really? You really agree with that? If it takes you 3 months to be able to support an army of 300, then you are out and out lousy at the game.
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 18:59
Especially if you join an alliance. I might not have had one, but i didn't play more than once a week or moth even in the beginning and that was because i lacked internet. ------------- http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Profile?gamertag=G0DsDestroyer" rel="nofollow - Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 19:10
Very true! If you have alliance support it should go much faster!
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 19:44
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ATH would develop much quicker if he redirected all the energy he expends on chat and the forum towards developing his city, establishing friendships, and learning how Illy works. Then he would understand that war in Illy is costly (just as in RL) which is the reason why Illy is mostly peaceful.I find it most curious that ATH complains about lack of war in Illy, yet he also complains when the armies and diplos come at him.
ATH also complains that Illy players are lemmings that all follow some mystery super-player. This is not my observation at all. I see almost entirely independently minded players which is one reason that we have such spirited discussions in the forum and on chat. ATH's logic for his conclusion appears to be that since so many established players dislike ATH, then all those players must be lemmings. However, my observation is that ATH has made it his mission to insult as many people as possible which seems a much more likely reason for such broad-based dislike of ATH.
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Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 19:56
A succinctly and accurately described summary that I think shows the depth of perception and ability to see "through the spin" that we have come to expect from you, TD!
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Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 20:08
JEEZUS TD! I just spent 30 mins typing out exactly the same (though far less eloquent) response in another of ATH's I hate Kumo/H?/Everybody threads. Little did I know you'd already nailed the proverbial Kudos sir. |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 20:12
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are we still doing this? ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 20:24
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I feel ATH's review was mostly true.
The game is a great game. The only downside to this game is the community. ATH stated that by calling it, "a fancy social interaction." That quote explains that the community is very boring and uptight. This game was very much like farmville till the tournament started. So, ATH was very correct on the GM's having to put in a tournament to get players to actually fight each other. I can say from my perspective that the Curse alliance became 100 percent active due to the tournament excitement appeal. The factions going live will create even more excitement appeal and completely erase any thought of a farmville comparison. "The game is fun, i know it is since i play it, however again once some players dislike you, and them being senior players, the rest usually follow suit" (ATH). This quote is also true in this game and pretty much for most war based games. Once a certain player with power dislikes a player in this game, the dislike will most likely grow from one person to a group of the community. There are a lot of sheep that play this game and in real life. They will save face by backing the bigger group instead of the smaller group. Sooner or later the community will seige the target just due to not liking the player. So, basically this game is all about making more friends than your enemies. It is a very political game with not much diplomacy. Why do I say that? An apology in this game means nothing at all. In real life yes, but not in this game. Once a player is forced to apologize or to make a contract, he or she most likely will get sieged again because the players that wanted the apology in the end also wants to siege that player once and for all. There is a slim chance that a player can avoid getting sieged, but these players need to have a lot of friends and friends that are indeed more powerful than the enemy player base threatening such a player. I also agree that once a player is getting sieged, there is not much a player can do to avoid the siege other than having more troops than the bigger force. I feel this game needs to work on the siege defense dynamic. Players like Cyan, Nige, Gigi, and myself that were fighting against overwhelming odds to save towns were in a lose, lose situation. Perhaps this game should not allow as many siege engines to a town or make the siege process take 5 time longer. I have been really thinking of a way that will improve the defense against sieges, when a player is facing overwhelming odds. I think the GMs should really give the advantage to the defender 10 fold. That even when an alliance attack a player with 8 towns, it will greatly deplete their forces and make it more strategy than simply throwing 20k troops on a reins square to siege a town. As a player I have made mistakes in the political side of the game. For whatever dumb reason, I thought my hardwork would be enough to save me from attacks. In reality, I should have put more time in making friends and less on working hard. So, yes chatting in the forums and global chat can make a player a target just simply on a difference of opinion. This difference of opinion will be followed suit by insults by a player which will then draw the player getting insulted to retaliate. Pretty much one of these players will eventually get sieged, but that will only be based on who has stronger friends than the other. Anyways, I think this game needs face lift on the defensive side of things. I want this to be improved for the betterment of the game. The game favors the attacker too much. |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 20:53
The bottom line is that, by their very nature, MMOs are populated by people. People are social animals. They tend to create groups and associate with each other. And if you go out of your way to insult a lot of groups of people (in any setting, game or otherwise) you will not be liked and those people will take actions that are contrary to your interests. So yes, it's a social game. As are ALL other MMOs.
As to favoring the attacker. No. When you factor in wait times, wall bonuses, commander bonuses, Sov bonuses to the defender, and the fact that you can Sally Forth with all of your friends' armies as one army, I don't think it's unbalanced. It was before Sally Forth was introduced, but, imo, is no longer...
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Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 20:54
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Diplomacy is war with words- and I much prefer it to bashing people's heads in with sharp, metal objects. If this game were about war, then the meta-game would be nonexistent, as most people would rage quit the moment someone attacked them for resources. Making friends is a LOT better than making enemies -in real life as well as in this game- and it happens to require a LOT of work. I learned this through an experience that was almost the same as yours Lionz, but with a different outcome -I was ridiculed by my alliance, which I had been a member of since I had 5 population, for doing something against my leader's wishes. All I felt was hate, but slowly I built up my own alliance and made peace with my old alliance. I did not cuss out that leader in Global Chat. Saying sorry is not effective if you have done wrong again and again, as in real life. Can you imagine this dialog? felon- I am sorry for betraying my country. judge- Okay, you're free to go. ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:04
Not so much that (though it wasn't until I joined mCrow that my army reached any notable size) but in terms of war I do. It's a war game and yet everyone avoids war like the plague. And when they do engage in war, they often pull in the 500 NAPs and Confeds and completely destroy the other side and often drive them completely from the game. It's a poor system that punishes people for playing the game the way it's intended and to be honest, I think it's a mix between overly harsh game design and the community itself. Anyway, I could go all day with that and I don't really like derailing threads (even if this one has pretty much been all over the place) so I'll stop there. I don't completely agree with the review but there are aspects of it which are true. This game certainly has more social networking than war strategies going on. |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:13
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I am a realist, so I always say what is true and I do not BS about anything. I feel I can see things before most people. This goes with me knowing the game was broken till I came up with the tournament idea. As for Kumo disagreeing with the defense idea, I feel Kumo only disagrees with it since his alliance does attacks 100% of the time with really no time defending at all. Based on that alone, I feel Kumo has no idea what he is talking about. It is like asking a King to be able to understand what a poor citizen is going through. Regardless, the defensive mechanic needs to get improved regardless what the player King Kumos says about it.
As for SRG, there is no diplomacy in this game, there is none at all. It is all about having more friends than the other person. A player is better off not chatting on global chat and the forums for the chance of offending a player. I know of several players in this game that do not chat in the forums and global chat for that reason alone. They do not want to say anything that will upset the wrong person with power that easily gets upset. I mean look what you did to Hammy, you made that player apologize and agree to a contract. In the end, you seiged that player because you did not like him. The reason you disagree with what I have said is because you are guilty of not using diplomacy. So, in the end, if any player is forced to say they are sorry or agree to terms, they are better off just quitting unless they have more powerful friends than the other person. Most of the time the terms agreed to is a scam that in the end will leave no choice but for that player to get sieged. |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:14
Pretty spot on with your opinion Brids. Not sure why some people have a hard time seeing this. |
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:24
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Hammy was given 5 chances to behave- all of which he blew, spamming global chat and being a complete management nightmare. He left the game by his own choice, and I sieged him 3 weeks after he left so new players could move to our alliance capital (he had jumped from alliance to alliance at an average of 2 per week and eventually created his own alliance - Coolies). I left his second city standing, so that he could restart if he wanted to. And I don't believe you understand diplomacy- its very essence is about making more friends than enemies, and those who are decent players will quickly develop a large friend base who will come to their aid if necessary. ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:25
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on a complete side note: why are you typing this srg" Â "? ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:27
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It's a bug my computer has, although it seems more prominent now than before. ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:30
The agreement you had hammy agree to was a scam. You made sure the rules hammy agreed to would be impossible for him or her to accomplish. You were just better off just sieging the towns. And no, you attacked hammy several times and did not wait till he or she quit. You were very bitter the player was alliance hopping and left your alliance. You took that very personal and no matter how many apologies, you wanted to end hammy with your new siege tech that you had just developed at that time. |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:31
Huh? You say Illy is a War Game (I disagree) but then you complain that when players fight wars, they fight to win.
How do you think Illy is intended to be played? The Devs have repeatedly stated that Illy is a sandbox for the players to determine the politics, etc.
I think over the last year, Illy has seen many different approaches tried by many players. The current state of few wars and mostly peace and looking forward to tournaments and NPC factions is how the overwhelming majority of Illy has found the most entertaining.
Illy has evolved to the status quo...I repeat myself...because of the large player time investment to develop the economy required to support an army capable of war.
If Illy were a War Game, then we would all start at the same time, there would be defined victory conditions, a winner would be determined, and then we would all reset and play another round. Illy has none of those characteristics. In this regard, it mirrors RL.
As Clauswitz said (pardon the paraphrase) "War is politics by another means." This means that military action is 1 arrow in the diplomats quiver (not the ONLY arrow). So we try to resolve our disputes without involving our armies when possible. But some disputes are not resolved without force.
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Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:35
| this forum was about attila getting attacked,Lionz what does hammy have to do with anything here? |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:37
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it has de-generated itself. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:38
Well my replies are based on what he said on his review. Hammy was just a mere example I used to explain what I was talking about about contracts and such. Yes, ATH can simply change the title name to "my review of the game." |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:39
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Well no, because the first few pages were about H? and now its become a review, no harm done. its interesting to see what others think of this game, carry on. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: Hora
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:42
LH is degenerating Attilas posts... I'd call that Niveau-Limbo |
Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:44
| why dont you make a forum about game review instead of using this one? |
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:44
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The agreement I made hammy agree to was for his own protection- I know for a fact that many other players were getting fed up with his rude outbursts. The conditions were as follows- 50 of each advanced resource (not including siege blocks), no more spamming of Global Chat, and to settle in one alliance (I did not specify that it had to be mine). #1 is easy for a 1000 population player to accomplish (It was easy for him), and #2 is also easy. #3 he accomplished by creating Coolies. Remember, this was the 5th warning I had given him, so it had to have a consequence to make him understand that what he was doing was not okay. Hammy broke this agreement when he attacked me and waylander for sieging a couple of his friends (who were not in his alliance) over Global Chat. Both of these sieges were for relocation purposes, they didn't harm the players (who were both inactive). I sent 1 army to attack him, and informed him that he had broken our agreement. He then went inactive. Remember Lionz, when you don't know what happened it's best to keep quiet (I do it all the time, you will note the absence of my posts in various grudge threads scattered throughout the forums). ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: scottfitz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:45
| This is NOT a wart game, it is a social/political/trading/economics/citybuilding/exploration/adventure/war game. There are dozens of highly active players who are not the least interested in military endeavors. I spent my first few months building my city and engaging in trade. I did not join an alliance or even go on chat, then my focus shifted, as it may well shift again. This game is an incredibly rich and multivariate world and that is largely due the the community. We are creating this world through our interactions as much as the DEVs are creating this world with their programming. With a few rare exceptions this is an amazing group of individuals and I am proud to be a part of Illyriad. |
Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:45
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or lionz since you are always complaining about the game most of the time do something else? |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:47
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http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/topic1566_post14986.html#14986 - http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/topic1566_post14986.html#14986
problem solved. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:47
Stay on topic little man, you are derailing the thread. |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:49
H? has no idea about defense? Why are 6 of the top 20 defense scores H? members?
You may have heard about a little war that went on with White? Do you think we just rolled over them? QUITE the contrary. In fact, that whole war started when LC (a White member) attacked KP... Talk to HM about defense. The guy was seeing constant attacks for weeks. Talk to any of the other H? members who fought in that war. Most of us were attacked. We know LOTS about defense. Don't show your ignorance.
Oh, and the King Kumo thing--- Cute. But I'm not even the leader of my own alliance (KP is), much less anyone else...
I also find that when people have to constantly remind you of their veracity, it is generally for a reason...
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Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:52
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Wow. That was like 10 posts in a minute - I think we might have a new record. ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:53
hypocrisy at its best. ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:55
Anyone with half of a brain would know that there was no way Hammy could fulfill those promises. Thus why I said you were better off sieging him than have him agree to things that was impossible for him to fulfill. In a sense, you wanted to BULLY hammy a bit more before you brought the siege engines. |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:55
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1700 views..thats the way to do it. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:56
applauds!!! 
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Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:57
| posted too late :[ |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:58
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I would like to thank everyone for getting so worked up about illyriad, i would also like to thank everyone for calling me a troll even when i revealed information about 1r2. nah jk but still... ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 21:59
My GOD!!!!!!!!!! WTH, jesus christ, i mean come on!!!!!!!!!!, WAY TOO MANY POSTS!!!!!!!, gonna get like that What to do with H? thread  Stop your crying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO ONE CARES THAT YOU LEFT(LH) SO LEAVE. AS FOR ATH, JUST STFU OR YOU'LL MAKE IT WORSE ON YOURSELF, as you have done many times before. ------------- http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Profile?gamertag=G0DsDestroyer" rel="nofollow - Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 22:00
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i was kiding on the above post... you all get worked up too easily. ------------- It's just a game. :) |
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 22:02
Bully? I'm confused. I don't think bullies try to help other people. Or give them 5 chances to make up for what they did. And he did fulfill the terms. For nearly a month. I only sieged him after his name had a "(suspended)" mark after it, and that was only to pave the way for new members. ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 22:05
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Gemley>well i have important business to do got to go [22:03] <Gemley>walks to IHOP
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Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 22:06
I do not care about you GODs, that is why I am still here posting. |
Posted By: Gemley
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 22:07
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throws pancake at Lionz face
that should do for now
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Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 22:08
Spin it as much as you want, you did not help Hammy. You only wanted to bully Hammy for leaving your alliance. And it did not help the fact Hammy had a town right next to yours. |
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 22:10
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*Sigh* Lionz, I am going to quit arguing with you. It's like running against a cement wall. Believe what you want to believe, but frankly, I don't need the headache. ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 22:17
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Song that reminds re of LH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX8hzcb7ySY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX8hzcb7ySY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3P1DEWgdHY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3P1DEWgdHY ------------- http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Profile?gamertag=G0DsDestroyer" rel="nofollow - Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin |