01FEB11 - UI v2 Rolled Back
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Topic: 01FEB11 - UI v2 Rolled Back
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Subject: 01FEB11 - UI v2 Rolled Back
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 00:16
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Hi All, We went live with the UI v2 at 0100 this morning, and rolled back to the old version just after 0200. We rolled back because we felt there were too many issues (two of particular note) to keep the new UI running as the "only option available to players". Please note that this rollback doesn't affect any ingame occurrences (troop movements, building queues etc) - it was a User Interface rollback, not a Database rollback. [edit: http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/01feb11-ui-v2-rolled-back_topic1500_post14161.html#14161 - see here ] Apologies, naturally and heartfelt, for this rollback. No matter how much one tests things, there's no substitute for having real players from real environments (operating systems, antivirus software, browsers etc) using a system in anger and in volume - and that's exactly what we've just experienced. Again, apologies. SC User Interface v2 Release #1 Yes, my friends... it's true. We said it'd happen today and - with barely an second to spare - we're into the downtime. There's a whole bunch of changes with the new User Interface. However, a quick heads-up. During the release process, some existing game functions are NOT currently available as they are moved over from the old code base. Functions that are Temporarily Unavailable in the new Version:
Some other things we are aware of and are endeavouring to rectify:
WHAT'S CHANGED IN THE NEW VERSION? This shiny newness is almost entirely limited to a different presentation of existing ingame functionality. You won't suddenly find unexpected occurrences, or things working in different ways (or at least, we hope not!) Trade still works the same. Combat still works the same. Magic still works the same. In fact, pretty much everything still works the same. But it's slicker, faster, better, more intuitive and prettier. For example, on the World Map alone, there are:
However. Not all the functionality we intend to ultimately release is in this first version of the UI, and the next few days will see a bunch of further releases. The key thing about this release is that it drags our entire codebase kicking and screaming out of the late 20th century. This means that future development tasks will all make use of a common set of code libraries and behaviours to ensure a consistent - and consistently more helpful and intuitive - player experience. On a purely practical level this means that adding the remaining things we promised in http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/the-newness-18aug10_topic929.html - The Newness becomes a substantially quicker task for us. Oh, before I forget - one new piece of functionality Alliances should be aware of is a New Alliance Role called "Edit Recruitment Status". Alliance players assigned this role (or SuperUsers) can - on the new "Alliance Recruitment" page - choose whether their alliance is recruiting new players or not. We're shortly going to bring in some functionality that will allow players to search for alliances near them that are recruiting, as well as for alliance recruiters to search for nearby new players who aren't already in an alliance. Alliance Recruiters will also be able, in the future, to post recruitment adverts that will appear in the Herald. So it's recommended that (if you want new players to apply to join your alliance in the future) you should set your Alliance Recruitment status to "Yes". Finally... This is a massive change to the way the Illyriad front-end works. There are bound to be bugs we haven't caught. We know there are some areas that don't look as pretty as they should (the mail system, for example has some formatting still to do), and these will get fixed speedily. One thing that we know works is the Petition system - so:
The Illyriad Team |
Replies:
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 00:21
| Hey everyone, during the downtime...The forum has a Private Msg Mail system. Hint Hint. :) |
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 01:04
Not FoundHTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found. Awesome sight to see after coming back inside from the icy tundra of Wisconsin ------------- http://live.xbox.com/en-US/MyXbox/Profile?gamertag=G0DsDestroyer" rel="nofollow - Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin |
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 01:07
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try: http://uk1.illyriad.co.uk/Account/LogOn?ReturnUrl=%2flogin.asp
------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 01:21
When I click on a resource, the little box just follows my mouse around the map, which makes it impossible to click on the links inside of it. Other than that, it looks beautiful. ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: Createure
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 01:26
I have the same thing with all drop down menus on the new interface. I only had it in Mozilla though, I switched to IE and it's fine. I'll just use IE for now I guess.  |
some random guy wrote:Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 01:37
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I am not able to access my account. Whenever I login it says that a "slow script" is running. Then it freezes.
PLEASE HELP  ------------- Soon, very soon, my name will become synonymous with chicken alfredo.... mmm.... chicken alfredo.... |
Posted By: Lionz Heartz
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 01:56
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A really nice feature I have noticed is the military button at the top of the screen. By clicking on the military button, it shows all of your units and enemy units about to attack or siege any of your towns. So now there is no guess work as to which army is a siege army or not.
A army on a square looks just like an army camps with tents and shows a yellow arrow toward the town it is targeting or maybe the town you have selected. So yeah you put the pointer over the axe picture at the top and then select footprints. This tells you how many troops you have and any encampments nearby friendly or enemy and how many enemy troops are about to attack your towns. By selecting the axe alone, this tells you which army will siege you or attack you etc... Example... Superperson sent 1222 troops eta date etc You know exactly who sent the troops and how many they have sent. Plus you will know if the army is a siege army or not. Strategy in this game has completely changed and I think the feint option is worthless now. |
Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 02:16
| My webserver emailed me today that it cannot download towndata.xml. Does this mean the old format is discontinued now, or is that a temporary side-effect of the upgrade? |
Posted By: Kumomoto
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 05:14
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And in that hour, we got to see so much coolness, that, please, please, PLEASE let us be part of the final debugging, as, as long as the data isn't corrupted (something like Llyorn is actually a literate, cool, guy, after you're done) then it'll be fun!!!
Just tell us what to do and we're all over it!
Can't wait!
Kumo
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Posted By: belargyle
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 06:29
Agreed!! |
Posted By: CranK
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 13:09
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Same here ! I can't wait to find those anoying bugs that kept other from seeing this amazing new UI ! I had a fun hour last night seeing all this coolness at once. People with a pacemaker, be aware. It might cause so much exitement that the pacemaker has to run overtime. |
Posted By: SirTwitchy
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 13:22
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I had to double up on Depends ------------- please disregard the twitch, the meds haven't kicked in yet... |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 13:23
I'll replace my batteries before going there then, thanks for the tip 
Sadly I missed the 1hr window where it was running, but I will certainly go there once the link is posted. You guys on the team are doing great work and I think most of us appreciate how difficult it must be to introduce a major upgrade like this, so don't worry about the delays, we'll be patient
Out of interest SC, when you do post the link, will that require a new account to be set up so we can test the system without any possible effect on our current play, or will it simply 'move' our existing accounts to it?
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Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 13:41
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Hi all, Thanks for the kind words and support, and this will only be an interim hiccup.
When we release the link to the new UI, it's the exact same server as your current account; and anything you do on the new UI will occur in the old UI gameworld as well (and vice versa). They co-exist and use all the same underlying data. You'll be able to swap between the two UIs as you wish during the interim period. Think of the old UI and the new UI simply as differently coloured pieces of glass held up in front of each of your eyes. You are still you and the world you see is still the same world - it's just coloured differently depending on which eye you look through. You shouldn't really be worried about actions taken in the new UI behaving differently from actions taken using the old UI - the business logic behind the buttons hasn't changed, just the way things are presented. Regards, SC |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 14:08
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Ah, sort of like 'mirror' working then, I thought that might be how it would work, but I had to ask - thanks for taking the time to explain.
I will look forward to getting back from work later to give it a try, and I have a day off tomorrow so I can spend a lot of it playing around with the new system!!
I haven't annoyed you for a while with 'tickets', so this might give me the opportunity to catch up!
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Posted By: voxanadu
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 14:35
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Rats, I missed the 1 hour window to play when this occurred. I can't wait to test this. |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 15:27
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So when I clicked on The Herald, Illy tried to download a file and my security blocked it.
Is this a legit file that I should download?
Or did my security catch a baddie?
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Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 15:43
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TD, i got a pop-up blocked in my IE when i clicked the link in the herald. |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 15:45
| Belargyle is scanning and will let us know if it is safe. |
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 16:25
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Hi all, To confirm a couple of things regarding this pop-up blocker issue: 1. We're talking about the Old UI here? 2. What, precisely, are you clicking on when you get the message? ie, is it links within the Herald itself, and if so, which ones? Or is it when you click the "Herald" link from the left hand navigation window/options menu? Do you get it when you login for the first time and you are automatically "dumped" on the Herald page? Cheers, SC |
Posted By: Rhea
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 16:38
| I have it happen too and it iswhen you select the Herald. Once in the herald it does not happen. |
Posted By: katjya
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 16:39
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hey SC. its Katjya, i went to go on the game this morning and i cannot log in. i usually just log in through facebook but i can't even do that. when i type in my user name and every password i use (which incidentally is the same one just different variations of it) it says that it is not a valid user name or password. any suggestions? |
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 16:49
Hi katjya, Thanks for letting us know. You're the second player to report this, and GM ThunderCat is looking into right now. We'll let you know. Regards, SC |
Posted By: katjya
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 16:53
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ok thanks |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 17:10
| After relaunching IE8 on windows XP, I get the download file pop-up blocker at Log in and when I click on the Options/Herald link, when the Herald page loads, the IE security blocks a file download and asks me if I want to download it. I have not downloaded the file. Oh, and yes, this is the Old UI - this is currently happening to me. |
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 17:34
katjya, try it now and let me know if it's working or still broken? TC has changed some facebook setting, I believe... Regards, SC |
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 17:35
Thanks The_Dude; TC is currently investigating and we'll let you know. SC |
Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 18:26
Kitty gets all the cool jobs I see.  |
Posted By: GM ThunderCat
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 18:38
My awe inspiring skills at tracking down and capturing esoteric brain destroying bugs; are only rivalled by my skills at accidentally breeding esoteric brain destroying bugs...
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Posted By: Llyorn Of Jaensch
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 18:41
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Posted By: LadyLuvs
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 19:05
| shuug is still having an issue logging into his account from facebook TC. He just made a new account to tell us. |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 19:14
| we dont care about that!! we want the update!!! |
Posted By: Sister Nikki
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 19:26
What ever help we can provide for the testing of the new upgrade I would love to help
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Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 19:28
| i volunteer to help |
Posted By: GM Stormcrow
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 19:29
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UPDATE 2 issues some players are currently experiencing:
... have both been traced to http://developers.facebook.com/live_status/#msg_725 - an internal bug in facebook that arose at 04:02 this morning. We're sorry that this is affecting some users, but it will go away when facebook resolve their own issue - and there's nothing we can do about it ourselves, unless we start to disconnect facebook integration from Illyriad which we're loathe to do whilst facebook are attempting to resolve the bug. Regards, SC |
Posted By: Attila the Hun
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 19:50
| hey now i cant log in, trhoguh simply googling. google illyriad, click login and it wont let me log in!! dman you update. |
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 21:16
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Posted By: Rhea
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2011 at 21:47
I hope the allow us to test out the new UI soon 
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Posted By: Illyriad Admin
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 01:54
Just a heads up that this isn't happening today, as you may have noticed. We're going to make sure that UI v2 is in a "non-dangerous" state. By "non-dangerous" we specifically mean that it doesn't confer an unnatural advantage over players who aren't in UI v2 (such as being able to tell the troop counts and intentions of an incoming hostile army, or being immediately informed when hostile diplomatic units have been dispatched against you, so you can immediately work out who sent them). Once these major issues are dealt with we'll open up the UI v2 for general usage by those players who wish to explore it, make use of the additional functionality, and/or help us find bugs in it. We expect to make UI v2 optionally available for the final bughunt/push sometime this coming weekend. Regards, SC |
Posted By: Baldrick
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2011 at 10:43
I can't see any problem with it being like that when we try it out - call me foolhardy, but in the interests of the community, I'm willing to risk the danger
 Some people just have to take the fun out of things sometimes!  |