1) what is the carrying capacity of a Thief? have simple Thief and advanced Thief the same carrying capacity?

 

50 for both.

2) what are exactly ALL the differences between simple and advanced thief?

 

Speed.  advanced thieves can carry Advanced Goods and Gold.  Basic thieves are basic resources only.

3) can Thieves steal the weapons, in a city, that are in caravans and waiting to be bought on marketplace?

 

It appears that this might protect stuff from thieves.  But I am uncertain.


Runes and Thieves:

3) are Thieves  killed by the killing runes? (ex: Ward of Destruction).

 

yes.


4) can Thieves be afraided by terror runes? (ex: Ward of Insanity)

 

yes.


5) If they are killed of frightened by a rune, does the defender have a report to tell him who attacked him with Thieves?

 

No.  Only the # and type of unit.  Not the owner's ID.


Defending Thieves:

6) is there a difference of attacking power between simple and advanced Thieves?

 

yes.  Only attack with Advanced.  Defend with Basic.

7) does a Thief have the same attack and defence value? (unlike military units?)

 

No.

8) when the Thieves passed thow the deffensive rune:
are all attacking Thieves blocked by simple and advanced defending Thieves? or are simple Thieves  blocked by simple Thieves, and advanced Thieves blocked by advanced Thieves?

 

Both are treated the same by Runes.  A basic thief defends best against both.

9) when the attacking Thieves won against the defending ones:
- are the defending ones completly destroyed?
- are the attacking ones suffering casualties?

 

Defenders never are destroyed.  If attackers lose, 100% lose.  This will change in future Illy releases, I am told.


Visibility of the Defender:

10) is there a chance for the attacking Thieves to steal the ressources without being seen by the defender's Thieves? (without starting a fight) can the defender receive a repot to tell who stole him in this case?

 

Interrogation will give the Defender a chance of ID'ing the attacker.  A theft will always result in a Shamed Face Quartermaster report.

11) if attacking Thieves killed all defending Thieves, does the defenfer have a chance to receive a report that tells who stole him?

 

See 10 above.

12) if attacking Thieves were cought by defending ones, is there a chance that the defender doesn't receive a report that tells who tryed to steal him?

 

Yes.  Most of the time this is the result until you have large #'s of defenders.

13) which factors can increase/decrease the visibility of the attacking Thieves for the defender? (difference of consulate level? difference of Thieves number/power? size of the defending city?

 

 

Edit: bonus question :p  : can we steal players who are in a NAP with us? in Confederation with us? can we steal our own alliance mates?

 

 

can we steal ourself?

 

It appears that I misread the question:

 

They were banned from Illy as I recall.  And the Devs changed the Sabos so they attack the queues randomly instead of sequentially.

 

I would suggest not using thieves as a speedy caravan substitute.  A one-off test like this will not concern the GMs, though.  Abuse of game loopholes is frowned upon by the GMs.

Dear Newbes

Let me introduce Createure. He is from Harmless?  and he knows all there is to know about thieving. Now, if you have had anything stolen recently chances are that he did it. He can't help himself. 

During the last tournament WHICH HARMLESS? LOST everyone else was working hard to collect animal specimens. Creat however had an idea  . Why go through all the hard work collecting them when you can steal somebody elses? So off he went and sent his thieves to DuQ of the Order of the Valar WHO WON THE TOURNAMENT.

Unfortunately for Creat the Devs had forseen that some one would try this and made sure that all specimens were held elsewhere.

So meet Creat. Not the brightest star in the Harmless? firmament but definitely the most light fingered.  

I realize the devs will not want to divulge specifics, but does anyone know how the theiving mechanic works?  Specifically wrt attack vs defense?

It seems that having more defense than attack is not a guarantee of defending, and vice versa; that is, there is some amount of chance involved in the difference is not overwhelming.  For example, I was at one point thieving from a suspended account, and after several successful attempts, I failed, even though the same number of theives were sent each time.  Someone recently posted in GC that they had the same experience.

My initial guess is that, when attack and defense are equal, there would be a 50% chance of success.  As the ratios change, the chance changes, probably in a nonlinear relationship (so that there is a 100% success/failure rate at some overwhelming ratio).  Has anyone done any testing?  I'd be willing to experiment with someone near me.

The exact formula is a "state secret".  But as I understand, there is always a chance of failure no matter how large the attacking force.  By the same token, a small attacker always has a chance of success against overwhelming odds.  I think there is a random number generator in the formula.

 

Also, I sent thieves at a suspended account and got by the defences 3 or 4 times before i was caught and lost all my thieves. I sent the same number every time and I know the city I was attacking wasnt making more, it had been suspended for some time already. So there is always a chance at failure too.