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Topic: Goods' Auction House (10k Cows)
Posted By: Torn Sky
Subject: Goods' Auction House (10k Cows)
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:15
I will be auctioning off my advance resources in lots, and you have a chance to get what you need in bulk. So no more scraping around the market trying to find what you need.

To kick things off
Current Auction:  10,000 Cows

Start: Jan 7 19:00 game time
Ends: Jan 9  21:00 game time    

Current High Bid:






Minimum bid increment will be 5,000gold


The auction will last 72 hours


I reserve the right to refuse to sell. (i.e. you bid 1 gold and no one else bids)


The auction winner gets choice of next item up for bid from what i have in stock

Please do not edit your Bid posts i will over look them as this could be exploitative and annoying

I will try my best to keep the auction lots in large quantities. If its to much for your personal use get your alliance together and split the costWink

Enjoy,
TS

PS
Any orcs out there willing to sell troops send me a message when that option is availableSmile



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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:15
Previous auctions

  1. 4000 livestock, winner Fluffy, Bid 1,000,001 (avg  250), Start Nov 29  21:15, End Nov 30 21:00
  2. 3000 saddles, winner Brids17, Bid 3,200,000 (avg 1,066.67), Start Dec 1 6:00, End Dec 3 6:00
  3. 10000 swords no bids
  4. 3000 chainmail, winner G0DsDestroyer, Bid 2,750,000 (avg 916.67), Start Dec 7 05:00, End Dec 8 16:00
  5. 4000 livestock, G0DsDestroyer, 5,000,000 (1250), Dec 8 16:00 - Dec 10 04:30
  6. 4000 horses, G0Ds Destroyer, 990,000 (247.5), Dec 10 06:00 - Dec 12 06:00
  7. 4000 books, G0DsDestroyer, 1,500,00 (375), Dec 12 18:00 - Dec 14 18:00
  8. 10000 swords, Iduna, 8,110,000 (811), Dec 19 16:00 - Dec 21 16:00
  9. 10000 bows, The_Dude, 4,000,000 (400), Dec 21 20:00 - Dec 23:00
  10. 10000 livestock, shakyala, 8,000,000 (800), Jan 7 19:00 - Jan 9 21:00






Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:19

500K to kick it off.



Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:29
600,000 beats 500k

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Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:37
601K Big smile


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:41
675,000
TS - Nice idea! 
 
A tip for future auctions, I suggest stating your "reserve price" (minimum price you will accept) at the outset.


Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:56
700K


Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:57

I will NOT go higher than 800K I got 1K cows on the market for 200K gold. So in proportion they would be the same if I were paying 800K here.



Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:58
701,000

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Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:00
701,001


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:00
1,000,000

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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:02
705K


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:04
Ooops.  That 1 million bid snuck in without me seeing it.  I'm out.  King's posted offer is a better price.


Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:06
Originally posted by G0DsDestroyer G0DsDestroyer wrote:

1,000,000
 
OK you can have it LOL did you see my post before this?


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:10
Well if you guys want to keep bidding then you can, i can withdraw my 1 million bid, and then put it in later when you guys have got the price up to 999kLOL


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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:17
Originally posted by G0DsDestroyer G0DsDestroyer wrote:

Well if you guys want to keep bidding then you can, i can withdraw my 1 million bid, and then put it in later when you guys have got the price up to 999kLOL
What do you mean "withdraw" your bid?!?!
 
You bid 1 million and cleared the room.  It seems to me that you bought the cows so you get the milk (not for free!  LOL
 
This is a good example of an auction run amok.  A bidder gets focused on winning the bid instead of getting the best price.  Also, bidding with pretend money.


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:51
Well then at least i can win somethingTongue
Unfortunately this seems to cost more than i would like it to, but oh wellWacko


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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 23:36
Haha least yall are having fun with it and maybe some really needs cows and will take em off your hands G0Ds

though im thinking a minimum bid incriment should be used and a reserve next go around though im pretty sure ill get a decent price and a reserves no necessary

also 48hrs may be to long of an auction time lets see what other feedback i get and i may call an end to it if it goes so long without some1 bidding after a high price is thrown up


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 23:40
well i have less than 100 cows all the time, even with a lvl 20 commongroundConfused

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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 01:42
1 million and 1 gold!  :D  tehee


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 11:52
Since it seem like the bidding has died down, i will close the auction in 9 hours when i get home from work so if you want em get your bids inBig smile


Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 21:25
1,000,002   Wink  


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 22:24
sry guys working late for once 

sry way im gonna give it to fluff since the 9hrs was up not fair to him if i was late

neway congratz fluffy for winning the first auction pls let me know what item to put up next and ill get with you about shipment when i get home


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 22:47
TS - for the next auction, Saddles or Leather Armor make sense to me.
 
The current marketplace has a wide gap between Buyers' Bid and Sellers' Ask prices.  You have just established an auction price for Cows at 250 ea. (tho I suspect that this is inflated due to bidding exuberance).  Both Saddles and LA require Cows.  The raw materials required are negligible in cost.  So theoretically, these 2 goods should be the cost of a cow plus a premium for factory time.  So I would expect a Saddle to sell for 500 (250x2) plus a time premium...LA should sell for 250 plus a time premium.  Your auction could give us a clue as to what the value of factory time is.
 
Using the same logic...most of the cost of a cow is the time premium.
 
At level 1 factories, production times are:
Cow 1:06:51 (67 minutes roughly)
Sdl   1:20:00 (80 min)
LA       52:32 (52.5 min)
 
So time is priced at 250 gold = 1:06:51.
 
Thus, a Sdl should cost 2x250 (2 cows) plus time premium of 298 (80 min - 67 min = 13 min/67 min = 19% more time for Sdl over Cow...250 Cow x1.19 = 297.5)  So total expected Sdl cost = 798 gold.
 
Same process for LA: time premium 52 min - 67 min = -14.5%...100%-14.5%=83.5% x 250 = 208.75.  Cost of Cow = 250 plus time premium 209 = 459 total expected LA cost.
 


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:41
Alrighty the transaction has been completed Congratulations Fluffy, and you have chosen saddles as the next item up for bid

So 3k saddles are up for bidding


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:43
600K


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:44
700,000 gold LOL

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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:44
650k


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:48
675k


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:52
725k


Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:53
800k


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 06:17
826k

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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 06:44
850k


Posted By: Leungarific
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 07:05
(Partial bid) Willing to split with others, in case anyone else wants a share.
650k/1k saddles


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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 07:23
2million for all of them


Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 11:25
2,005,000 Smile as i missed out on the last lot.....Cry
well done fluffy...Clap


Posted By: Leungarific
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 13:37
1,200,000 for 1.5k saddles (800 gold each) >.>

(I still can't afford to buy the whole lot Dead)


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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 14:42
2,500,000


Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 17:15
Can we have a set time for when each auction will end, i know you  say 48 hours for each one but you dont give a start time for it that way we know how long its going on for...ta


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 18:30
48 hours after he posted the saddles would be a wise assumption of when the bidding ends.
He posted it Today at 5:41 so 48 hours after that it's over.


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Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 19:07
http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=1320&PID=11086&title=goods-auction-house-saddle-up#11086">Direct Link To This Post  Posted: Today at 06:41
Alrighty the transaction has been completed Congratulations Fluffy, and you have chosen saddles as the next item up for bid 












So 3k saddles are up for biddin


This is the last post i see but then his main thread has edits in it as well, maybe best to start a new thread each time and ask mods to close the old ones....Wink


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 21:22
yea i know i havent been as professional as i should be in running this auction, but now that im home and have some time to spend on this ill straighten out my original post

and yes from the time of that post +19mins to make it even is when ill start the 48hr countdown

also how long do you think is fair to wait to close an auction if there hasnt been any new bids, im thinks if it goes 12hrs with out a new bid i'll call it done and move on to the next item, that seem like a decent time frame for yall?



Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 21:32
TS - ending auction after 12 hours w/o a bid sounds reasonable to me.
btw, You're home early today.  :)


Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 21:57
Yeah 12hrs without a bid sounds good....now to work out game time to end time lol...


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 22:19
kk so if i see its been 12hrs or close to it ill give a 2hr warning and end it if no one bids




Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 23:57
2.55million


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 00:02
Originally posted by fluffy fluffy wrote:

2.55million


ill accept it as i was on when bid was made


Posted By: Leungarific
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 05:03
1.5mil for 1.5k saddles. ^.^
(Also willing to buy these off anyone who actually gets the 3k saddles, if Torn Sky doesn't want to sell 'em off in lots)


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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 05:15
Originally posted by Leungarific Leungarific wrote:

1.5mil for 1.5k saddles. ^.^
(Also willing to buy these off anyone who actually gets the 3k saddles, if Torn Sky doesn't want to sell 'em off in lots)
Now I am really curious...Leu, why are you so hungry for 1,500 saddles?  You're bidding a 20% premium over my calculted expected value of Sdls...And you've already said that this bid consumes your gold (meaning you're "all in")...these facts make me think you have some plans that are very important to you...So do tell...Cool


Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 06:05
are split trades even allowed?  doesn't seem right.  You can't go into an auction and bid for half a painting that someone made.


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 06:10
Originally posted by fluffy fluffy wrote:

are split trades even allowed?  doesn't seem right.  You can't go into an auction and bid for half a painting that someone made.
 
I'll Take half of the Mona Lisa for $1,000,000LOL


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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 06:13
Originally posted by fluffy fluffy wrote:

are split trades even allowed?  doesn't seem right.  You can't go into an auction and bid for half a painting that someone made.


Sure you can, as long as it sells it's their business how to split it.


Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 06:17
Originally posted by G0DsDestroyer G0DsDestroyer wrote:

Originally posted by fluffy fluffy wrote:

are split trades even allowed?  doesn't seem right.  You can't go into an auction and bid for half a painting that someone made.
 
I'll Take half of the Mona Lisa for $1,000,000LOL

i dont think a million will get you half anymore :P


Posted By: Thexion
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 08:35
 2 700 000 for the lot of them just to mix things up.


Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 09:10
2,750,000


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 11:48
Originally posted by Leungarific Leungarific wrote:

1.5mil for 1.5k saddles. ^.^
(Also willing to buy these off anyone who actually gets the 3k saddles, if Torn Sky doesn't want to sell 'em off in lots)


Sorry Leu, I'm not going to split the auction. If you cant afford the whole lot make a deal on global or with your alliance to split it amongst yourselves, just have the gold gathered promptly and ready for shipment. Also I'm not responsible for for side deals outside of my auction, so be careful who you team up with make sure they are someone who will pay up/ send your share. 



Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 16:15
2,800,000


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 20:58
FYI fellas...
 
Less than 24 hours ago, I posted Buy offers for Saddles at 800 each.  These offers were accepted very quickly.  1 in less than 5 minutes from posting.  Each order was for 500 saddles/400K gold.  The 2nd went a few hours later.
 
The current bid is 933.33.  That's more than a 20% premium over market.
 
Leu, you should be able to buy saddles on the market without needing to win this auction.


Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 21:15
2,850,000


Posted By: CranK
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 22:33
3.000.000 

Edit: And now all stop bidding ! :P


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 23:01
Originally posted by CranK CranK wrote:

3.000.000 

Edit: And now all stop bidding ! :P


3mil bid and 7hrs left in the auction whose gonna step up or is Crank gonna take it?


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 23:58
3,100,000


Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 00:34
3105000


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 00:42
3,200,000


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 19:41
Congratulations BridsClap

Next auction will start soon(tm)  


Posted By: CranK
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 22:22
I was going over that bid ! :O


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 22:31
If it makes you feel any better, I'm out of gold so that's less competition for you for the next auction. 


Posted By: CranK
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 22:37
I only need saddles atm. 

And the next auction might be my own resources so I can't really bid on that :P


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 23:18
Current Auction: 10,000 Swords

Start: Dec 4 01:00
Ends: Dec 7 01:00

Minimum bid increment will be 25,000 gold

The auction will last *at least* 72 hours (3 days)

Starting bid: 4.000.000 (400 each)


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 04:30
well that didnt go over to well sorry

Alright next auction

3k chain
Ends Dec 9 05:00

Happy Bidding


Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 04:34
1 million


Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 04:37
1 mil 5K


Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 04:38
1,025,000


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 05:07
1,050,000
Cry


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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 05:56
1,075,000


Posted By: h8tedoak
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 05:56
1,100,000


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 05:58
1,125,000
CryCry
Cry

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Posted By: h8tedoak
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 06:00
1,150,000


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 06:02
1,250,000
Cry
Thumbs Down

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Posted By: Ector the Fury
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 07:20
1,325,000


Posted By: JCD64
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 07:52
1,400,000


Posted By: Ector the Fury
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 07:59
1,450,000


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 17:11
1,600,000
Ouch


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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 17:17
1,700,000


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 17:55
2,000,000
Thumbs Down


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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 18:21
2,100,000  = 700 ea
 
PS GD...You just sold me Chainmail at 400 and now you are buying at a much higher price...The idea is to Buy Low and Sell High, not the other way around.  LOL


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 21:50
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

2,100,000  = 700 ea
 
PS GD...You just sold me Chainmail at 400 and now you are buying at a much higher price...The idea is to Buy Low and Sell High, not the other way around.  LOL


2,200,000
Tongue

PS TD...Really?Wink




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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:23
2,300,000
 
GD - How high will you go?  Smile


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:26
Bah!
2,500,000Broken Heart


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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:28
2,600,000
GD - You do know that I have much more gold than you do, right?Big smile


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:32
I'd be interested, but at >800g per unit, this is already way above market value.  You'd think doing high volumes would save gold, not cost more. Tongue


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:34
HM - Agreed completely.  This auction is not about getting the best per unit price.  Every auction has far exceeded the market per unit prices.  However, 3,000 chainmail for sale does not show up on the market very often.  Big smile


Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:53
I guess all this means is that there's healthy space for a merchant class in Illyriad.  Heck of a grunt job though.


Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:13
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

HM - Agreed completely.  This auction is not about getting the best per unit price.  Every auction has far exceeded the market per unit prices.  However, 3,000 chainmail for sale does not show up on the market very often.  Big smile


Untrue. I got those saddles for 1067ea and sold most of them (I kept a bunch for myself) for 1900ea. Had I had the gold I would have bought those swords too, since no one made an offer I likely could have gotten them for only 400ea and sold for more.


Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:18
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

You'd think doing high volumes would save gold, not cost more. Tongue


Its always been backwards in games, its easier to make one 3k unit trade than 30x 100 unit trades. Im actually suprised yall have bid this high.

But i have noticed only the same few people bid every time and id like to make it open to more people, are my lots to large for most players looking to buy or are these few people raising the price to fast for yall lurkers to be interested? maybe i should run a few lots of varying sizes to get more people interested or any other suggestions to increase customers out there?



Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

2,600,000
GD - You do know that I have much more gold than you do, right?Big smile


please dont edit your bid posts


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:26
2,700,000Nuke

Meh


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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:49
TS - I know we aren't supposed to edit bids...But I typo'd and missed the last 0.  And I saw this immediately and fixed it ASAP.  I'll try to do better in the future...but I do have fat fingers.  Cry


Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:50
2,705,000


Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:55
2,710,000

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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2010 at 00:00
2,715,000



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