Goods' Auction House (10k Cows)
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Topic: Goods' Auction House (10k Cows)
Posted By: Torn Sky
Subject: Goods' Auction House (10k Cows)
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:15
I
will be auctioning off my advance resources in lots, and you have a
chance to get what you need in bulk. So no more scraping around the
market trying to find what you need.
To kick things off Current Auction: 10,000 Cows
Start: Jan 7 19:00 game time
Ends: Jan 9 21:00 game time
Current High Bid:
Minimum bid increment will be 5,000gold
The auction will last 72 hours
I reserve the right to refuse to sell. (i.e. you bid 1 gold and no one else bids)
The auction winner gets choice of next item up for bid from what i have in stock
Please do not edit your Bid posts i will over look them as this could be exploitative and annoying
I
will try my best to keep the auction lots in large quantities. If its
to much for your personal use get your alliance together and split the
cost
Enjoy, TS
PS Any orcs out there willing to sell troops send me a message when that option is available
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:15
Previous auctions
- 4000 livestock, winner Fluffy, Bid 1,000,001 (avg 250), Start Nov 29 21:15, End Nov 30 21:00
- 3000 saddles, winner Brids17, Bid 3,200,000 (avg 1,066.67), Start Dec 1 6:00, End Dec 3 6:00
- 10000 swords no bids
- 3000 chainmail, winner G0DsDestroyer, Bid 2,750,000 (avg 916.67), Start Dec 7 05:00, End Dec 8 16:00
- 4000 livestock, G0DsDestroyer, 5,000,000 (1250), Dec 8 16:00 - Dec 10 04:30
- 4000 horses, G0Ds Destroyer, 990,000 (247.5), Dec 10 06:00 - Dec 12 06:00
- 4000 books, G0DsDestroyer, 1,500,00 (375), Dec 12 18:00 - Dec 14 18:00
- 10000 swords, Iduna, 8,110,000 (811), Dec 19 16:00 - Dec 21 16:00
- 10000 bows, The_Dude, 4,000,000 (400), Dec 21 20:00 - Dec 23:00
- 10000 livestock, shakyala, 8,000,000 (800), Jan 7 19:00 - Jan 9 21:00
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Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:19
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:29
600,000 beats 500k
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Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:37
601K
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:41
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675,000
TS - Nice idea!
A tip for future auctions, I suggest stating your "reserve price" (minimum price you will accept) at the outset.
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Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:56
Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:57
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I will NOT go higher than 800K I got 1K cows on the market for 200K gold. So in proportion they would be the same if I were paying 800K here.
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 21:58
701,000
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Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:00
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:00
1,000,000
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:02
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:04
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Ooops. That 1 million bid snuck in without me seeing it. I'm out. King's posted offer is a better price.
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Posted By: King EAM
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:06
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
1,000,000 |
OK you can have it  did you see my post before this?
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:10
Well if you guys want to keep bidding then you can, i can withdraw my 1 million bid, and then put it in later when you guys have got the price up to 999k
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:17
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
Well if you guys want to keep bidding then you can, i can withdraw my 1 million bid, and then put it in later when you guys have got the price up to 999k
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What do you mean "withdraw" your bid?!?!
You bid 1 million and cleared the room. It seems to me that you bought the cows so you get the milk (not for free! 
This is a good example of an auction run amok. A bidder gets focused on winning the bid instead of getting the best price. Also, bidding with pretend money.
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 22:51
Well then at least i can win something
Unfortunately this seems to cost more than i would like it to, but oh well 
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 23:36
Haha least yall are having fun with it and maybe some really needs cows and will take em off your hands G0Ds
though im thinking a minimum bid incriment should be used and a reserve next go around though im pretty sure ill get a decent price and a reserves no necessary
also 48hrs may be to long of an auction time lets see what other feedback i get and i may call an end to it if it goes so long without some1 bidding after a high price is thrown up
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2010 at 23:40
well i have less than 100 cows all the time, even with a lvl 20 commonground
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 01:42
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1 million and 1 gold! :D tehee
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 11:52
Since it seem like the bidding has died down, i will close the auction in 9 hours when i get home from work so if you want em get your bids in
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Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 21:25
1,000,002
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 22:24
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sry guys working late for once
sry way im gonna give it to fluff since the 9hrs was up not fair to him if i was late
neway congratz fluffy for winning the first auction pls let me know what item to put up next and ill get with you about shipment when i get home
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 22:47
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TS - for the next auction, Saddles or Leather Armor make sense to me.
The current marketplace has a wide gap between Buyers' Bid and Sellers' Ask prices. You have just established an auction price for Cows at 250 ea. (tho I suspect that this is inflated due to bidding exuberance). Both Saddles and LA require Cows. The raw materials required are negligible in cost. So theoretically, these 2 goods should be the cost of a cow plus a premium for factory time. So I would expect a Saddle to sell for 500 (250x2) plus a time premium...LA should sell for 250 plus a time premium. Your auction could give us a clue as to what the value of factory time is.
Using the same logic...most of the cost of a cow is the time premium.
At level 1 factories, production times are:
Cow 1:06:51 (67 minutes roughly)
Sdl 1:20:00 (80 min)
LA 52:32 (52.5 min)
So time is priced at 250 gold = 1:06:51.
Thus, a Sdl should cost 2x250 (2 cows) plus time premium of 298 (80 min - 67 min = 13 min/67 min = 19% more time for Sdl over Cow...250 Cow x1.19 = 297.5) So total expected Sdl cost = 798 gold.
Same process for LA: time premium 52 min - 67 min = -14.5%...100%-14.5%=83.5% x 250 = 208.75. Cost of Cow = 250 plus time premium 209 = 459 total expected LA cost.
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:41
Alrighty the transaction has been completed Congratulations Fluffy, and you have chosen saddles as the next item up for bid
So 3k saddles are up for bidding
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:43
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:44
700,000 gold
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:44
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:48
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:52
Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 05:53
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 06:17
826k
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 06:44
Posted By: Leungarific
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 07:05
(Partial bid) Willing to split with others, in case anyone else wants a share. 650k/1k saddles
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 07:23
Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 11:25
Posted By: Leungarific
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 13:37
1,200,000 for 1.5k saddles (800 gold each) >.>
(I still can't afford to buy the whole lot )
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 14:42
Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 17:15
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Can we have a set time for when each auction will end, i know you say 48 hours for each one but you dont give a start time for it that way we know how long its going on for...ta
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 18:30
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48 hours after he posted the saddles would be a wise assumption of when the bidding ends.
He posted it Today at 5:41 so 48 hours after that it's over.
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Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 19:07
http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=1320&PID=11086&title=goods-auction-house-saddle-up#11086"> Posted: Today at 06:41 | Alrighty the transaction has been completed Congratulations Fluffy, and you have chosen saddles as the next item up for bid
So 3k saddles are up for biddin
This is the last post i see but then his main thread has edits in it as well, maybe best to start a new thread each time and ask mods to close the old ones....  |
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 21:22
yea i know i havent been as professional as i should be in running this auction, but now that im home and have some time to spend on this ill straighten out my original post
and yes from the time of that post +19mins to make it even is when ill start the 48hr countdown
also how long do you think is fair to wait to close an auction if there hasnt been any new bids, im thinks if it goes 12hrs with out a new bid i'll call it done and move on to the next item, that seem like a decent time frame for yall?
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 21:32
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TS - ending auction after 12 hours w/o a bid sounds reasonable to me.
btw, You're home early today. :)
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Posted By: waylander69
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 21:57
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Yeah 12hrs without a bid sounds good....now to work out game time to end time lol...
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 22:19
kk so if i see its been 12hrs or close to it ill give a 2hr warning and end it if no one bids
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 23:57
Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 00:02
fluffy wrote:
2.55million
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ill accept it as i was on when bid was made
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Posted By: Leungarific
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 05:03
1.5mil for 1.5k saddles. ^.^ (Also willing to buy these off anyone who actually gets the 3k saddles, if Torn Sky doesn't want to sell 'em off in lots)
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 05:15
Leungarific wrote:
1.5mil for 1.5k saddles. ^.^ (Also willing to buy these off anyone who actually gets the 3k saddles, if Torn Sky doesn't want to sell 'em off in lots)
| Now I am really curious...Leu, why are you so hungry for 1,500 saddles? You're bidding a 20% premium over my calculted expected value of Sdls...And you've already said that this bid consumes your gold (meaning you're "all in")...these facts make me think you have some plans that are very important to you...So do tell...
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 06:05
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are split trades even allowed? doesn't seem right. You can't go into an auction and bid for half a painting that someone made.
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 06:10
fluffy wrote:
are split trades even allowed? doesn't seem right. You can't go into an auction and bid for half a painting that someone made. |
I'll Take half of the Mona Lisa for $1,000,000 
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 06:13
fluffy wrote:
are split trades even allowed? doesn't seem right. You can't go into an auction and bid for half a painting that someone made.
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Sure you can, as long as it sells it's their business how to split it.
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 06:17
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
fluffy wrote:
are split trades even allowed? doesn't seem right. You can't go into an auction and bid for half a painting that someone made. |
I'll Take half of the Mona Lisa for $1,000,000  |
i dont think a million will get you half anymore :P
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Posted By: Thexion
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 08:35
2 700 000 for the lot of them just to mix things up.
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 09:10
Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 11:48
Leungarific wrote:
1.5mil for 1.5k saddles. ^.^ (Also willing to buy these off anyone who actually gets the 3k saddles, if Torn Sky doesn't want to sell 'em off in lots)
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Sorry Leu, I'm not going to split the auction. If you cant afford the whole lot make a deal on global or with your alliance to split it amongst yourselves, just have the gold gathered promptly and ready for shipment. Also I'm not responsible for for side deals outside of my auction, so be careful who you team up with make sure they are someone who will pay up/ send your share.
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 16:15
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 20:58
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FYI fellas...
Less than 24 hours ago, I posted Buy offers for Saddles at 800 each. These offers were accepted very quickly. 1 in less than 5 minutes from posting. Each order was for 500 saddles/400K gold. The 2nd went a few hours later.
The current bid is 933.33. That's more than a 20% premium over market.
Leu, you should be able to buy saddles on the market without needing to win this auction.
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 21:15
Posted By: CranK
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 22:33
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3.000.000
Edit: And now all stop bidding ! :P
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 23:01
CranK wrote:
3.000.000
Edit: And now all stop bidding ! :P
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3mil bid and 7hrs left in the auction whose gonna step up or is Crank gonna take it?
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 23:58
Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 00:34
Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 00:42
Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 19:41
Congratulations Brids
Next auction will start soon(tm)
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Posted By: CranK
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 22:22
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I was going over that bid ! :O
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 22:31
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If it makes you feel any better, I'm out of gold so that's less competition for you for the next auction.
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Posted By: CranK
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 22:37
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I only need saddles atm.
And the next auction might be my own resources so I can't really bid on that :P
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2010 at 23:18
Current Auction: 10,000 Swords
Start: Dec 4 01:00 Ends: Dec 7 01:00
Minimum bid increment will be 25,000 gold
The auction will last *at least* 72 hours (3 days)
Starting bid: 4.000.000 (400 each)
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 04:30
well that didnt go over to well sorry
Alright next auction
3k chain Ends Dec 9 05:00
Happy Bidding
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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 04:34
Posted By: some random guy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 04:37
Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 04:38
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 05:07
1,050,000

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Posted By: fluffy
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 05:56
Posted By: h8tedoak
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 05:56
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 05:58
1,125,000
 
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Posted By: h8tedoak
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 06:00
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 06:02
1,250,000

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Posted By: Ector the Fury
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 07:20
Posted By: JCD64
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 07:52
Posted By: Ector the Fury
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 07:59
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 17:11
1,600,000

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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 17:17
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 17:55
2,000,000

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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 18:21
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2,100,000 = 700 ea
PS GD...You just sold me Chainmail at 400 and now you are buying at a much higher price...The idea is to Buy Low and Sell High, not the other way around. 
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 21:50
Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:23
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2,300,000
GD - How high will you go? 
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Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:26
Bah! 2,500,000
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:28
2,600,000
GD - You do know that I have much more gold than you do, right? 
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:32
I'd be interested, but at >800g per unit, this is already way above market value. You'd think doing high volumes would save gold, not cost more.
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:34
HM - Agreed completely. This auction is not about getting the best per unit price. Every auction has far exceeded the market per unit prices. However, 3,000 chainmail for sale does not show up on the market very often.
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Posted By: HonoredMule
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 22:53
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I guess all this means is that there's healthy space for a merchant class in Illyriad. Heck of a grunt job though.
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Posted By: Brids17
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:13
The_Dude wrote:
HM - Agreed completely. This auction is not about getting the best per unit price. Every auction has far exceeded the market per unit prices. However, 3,000 chainmail for sale does not show up on the market very often.  |
Untrue. I got those saddles for 1067ea and sold most of them (I kept a bunch for myself) for 1900ea. Had I had the gold I would have bought those swords too, since no one made an offer I likely could have gotten them for only 400ea and sold for more.
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Posted By: Torn Sky
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:18
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:26
2,700,000
Meh
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:49
TS - I know we aren't supposed to edit bids...But I typo'd and missed the last 0. And I saw this immediately and fixed it ASAP. I'll try to do better in the future...but I do have fat fingers.
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:50
Posted By: G0DsDestroyer
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 23:55
2,710,000
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Posted By: The_Dude
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2010 at 00:00
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