The Mal Motshans... yet again
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Topic: The Mal Motshans... yet again
Posted By: nvp33
Subject: The Mal Motshans... yet again
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 03:56
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As a lot of you probaply know, the TMM alliance contacted the Unified Orc Scourge about joining them a few days back. It started very polite and respectful and I answered the same way, that even though we found the idea of "nations" in Illyria very interesting we thought there were better ways of doing it, (I even suggested some of these ways to Nige) and that after Case passed away (the player known as Shrapnel and Grog) we took a vote to carry on in his name and not take anyone up on their offers offers of merging. This happened shortly before The Great Move. I suggested many compromises but all were shut down and near the end of our talks Nige even went so far as to accuse me of using Case' death as a smokescreen and "a tactic in a war game". Even though this angered me greatly I still made two more attempts at a peacefull settlement but to no avail. Through all of this Nige had also been in contact with Uungaar, the leader of Dark Blight our big brother alliance, to work out an alliance with them and to make them move some of their cities from what Nige sees as his territory (however he propposes to do this, as this was after the teleport spell went offline, is beyond me). Uuntaar told him that any cooporation with them hinged upon our independence and a modification of their methods and demands. Again we could not see eye to eye. Nige and his members have now lauched unprovoked attacks against me and and my second in command with what seems to be overwhelming forces and we require aid lest we be wiped off of the map. In my opinion Nige is right, this game is as much a war game as anything else, and there are some people who talk too much about so called "bullies" who want the game to consist of farmville and simcity players only, but when he start talking about "foreiners" in a region he only moved to recently him self, and about "people has to move out of the area or join us" he's just not making any sense and making impossible demands. First off, noone can any longer move anywhere, if we could his demands would seem a "bit" more reasonable but we can't. He has also complained that "everyone always involves other alliances, why can't people stand up for them selves" This is of course very easy to say when you are as large as he is, but when you're the very little guy, with no chance in hell of winning, why should he "stand up for him self" when it's clearly suicide? He has further said that "people wont be destroyed, they can alway resettle somewhere else after". I wonder, if Nige was reduced to 1 town with a couple hundred population, would he keep playing? I doubt it, but I can be wrong. Now as the very little guy with no chance in hell, who wont play on if reduced to one town with a couple hundred pop, I hereby call upon any and all who will assist us in one very simple goal: We want to survive as we are! We don't want to be forced to abandon our pledge to keep this alliance going! We don't want to be dictated to by a (yes I'm gonna use the word) bully with no abillity to see things from other perspectives than his own, who reads a mail with many compromises and possible solutions as to how you can overcome the differences instead of letting them get in your way, and then only take a tiny portion out of that mail, get infuriated about it and ignore everything else. In short we want TMM seriously downsized, any and all is invited to this, no matter race or alliance or past history. But decide quickly, we are under a heavy barrage even as we speak and we can't hold out long without help. |
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Posted By: Shadar Logoth
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 04:08
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Nige is Juno is Butler, and probably a few more accounts. Nige/Butler/Juno has always been known as liars. You can not bargain with him, you can not expect him to hold true to his word, he is just a liar. And from time to time people buy into that stuff.
He sits behind several computers, thus several ip addresses, and how can you prove that those are him?
So now Nige has his new toadies Ava and yoshi, and whatever. But its still Nige/Juno/Butler and whatever.
He still lies, he still betrays everyone he meets, except his current toadies off course, untill he needs a fresh pair.
Nuff said.
There are enough people from the olden days who know Nige/Butler/Juno for who he really is.
If the devs can't kick him out, well....
------------- More Orc, less talking! All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules. |
Posted By: Starry
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 04:15
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As another alliance who has had members under threat of siege, I can't support you enough nvp. Nige can call it any name he wants but bottomline he and TMM want to eliminate all new players, small players and alliances that are in his so-called territory. It should be noted that Nige never informed any of the top alliances or posted in this forum their intention to claim that area. I will call them by name, they are bullies. I do hope the players of this game support nvp and US in their fight against Nige and the tyranny of TMM. US was not the aggressor, they sought a peaceful and honorable agreement with TMM in that region, Nige has no right to claim that area. |
Posted By: Noryasha Grunk
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 04:23
| Vot can hI do to help? |
Posted By: Shuey707
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 04:55
You can attack TMM, reinforce US, or anything in between. |
Noryasha Grunk wrote:Posted By: nvp33
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 04:59
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I would already like to thank the alliances who has pledged their support and already sent reinforcements. Your help and kindness, given without any demands for gold or future deals will not be forgotten. Thank you. |
Posted By: Noryasha Grunk
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 05:36
| I am a bit far avay for any sort of military support, unfortunately, but hI vill see vot hI can do. Please send me a message in game listing da city hyu vould most likely me to defend, and da vone hyu vould most like me to attack. |
Posted By: Metallicus
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 09:58
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Hostilities have begun. Dark Blight rise to the call and our forces march against the tyranny as i type. We will do everything we can to aid United Orc Scourge as they are the innocent party and also in Grog/Shrapnels memory. ------------- Proud Warboss of Dark Blight |
Posted By: Gratch
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 10:23
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The D'Haran Empire would like to assist if possible. Though it currently onlyy consists of me, I would like to offer any assistance I can. TMM obviously has twisted logic that needs to be put to rest before it gets too far out of hand. I may not be too much of help, but if there's anything small I can do to assist, I shall do so. ~Gratch, Master Rahl of The D'Haran Empire |
Posted By: Finnegas
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 10:31
| I can trade with you for what you need. At war-inflated prices, of course ;) |
Posted By: Finnegas
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 10:34
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Also, I take my hat off sir, you're very good at internationalizating conflicts. That's the poor man tactics, but you're no poor man. Cheers, |
Posted By: Smoking GNU
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 10:39
| We await for the word of our leader Belargyle, High King of Dlords on this matter, but suffice to say that the general attitude on the Alliance chat is in USses favour in this matter. |
Posted By: Finrod
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 14:00
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World's End has had trouble with the Mal Motshans in the past. A new player, Serg spawned in "their" territory, but joined our alliance. She suffered several attacks under threat of join or be destroyed, then teleported to our cluster. One attack that was en route followed her there where we, as an alliance, defended against the attack.
TMM's actions against new players destroys the opportunity for someone to pick up and enjoy Illyriad. Their actions against weaker alliances is, as the term has been tossed around in the forum, bullying.
We would offer our support, however, we are mired in our own conflict at this time: http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/why-the-war-against-worlds-end_topic1294.html - http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/why-the-war-against-worlds-end_topic1294.html
If we can resolve our current crisis, support from World's End will be forthcoming. If we cannot, we may not survive to see the outcome of the Mal Motshan affair.
We hope to see you on the other side.
Finrod
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Posted By: Casino
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 17:19
| the big guy picking on the little guy and making outrageous demands, my fill of blood will be satisfied with this. Maybe TMM will think twice about this and come to their sense's and call off all actions against US. If not, then we will see if they will play with 1 town and low pop. |
Posted By: Faya
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 23:40
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Goonies will support US. Mail me in game as to what you need and you will get it! Faya |
Posted By: iluvpie3
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2010 at 00:32
| I am far away and tiny,but know that you have my full support and I will help US out in any way possible. |