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Audrey Quest 2024

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Topic: Audrey Quest 2024
Posted By: Freyja.
Subject: Audrey Quest 2024
Date Posted: 18 May 2024 at 20:04

Doing the same steps over and over, and expecting different results is just crazy. Doing the same steps, over and over, for 10 years and not getting results is completely insane. Let's not keep doing this.

We need to try something new thing with every attempt at the quest. Last year, we tested the timing of doing the steps and waking up Audrey. Nothing happened. So, we have to test something else. There is no point in waking up Audrey if we are not doing something different or testing a theory.

I want to test if feeding Audrey from the quest town makes a difference. To do this, I need players who will send different amounts of troops to Audrey from their quest towns, AND share the info.

The plan is to wake up Audrey in December. This is to give players time to build troops and/or diplos, do the quest steps before Audrey wakes up (fortune teller, old crone, Duraz Karag), and then send troops/diplos to Audrey to wake her up.

If you have a quest town and are willing to feed Audrey, AND share the info, please post here or send me an IGM.

Also, there are 60 corrupted squares around Audrey right now, which is fine. It will make it easier to wake her up when we want to wake her up. But please don't feed Audrey any more until November/December. If we wake her up in December (after the November tourney), then we can plan for the swift and ruinous attack in January, and then tourney in February.

That's my plan. Please join me because together, we can do this.  




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Posted By: Remy
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2024 at 05:04
I agree we need to do something different. We know much more know about Audrey's attack on our cities, and how the tentacles attempt to escape. Were we to actually make it to that stage of the quest, I'd say we have a pretty good chance of beating it. The trouble is actually making it to that stage.

The 2014 attempt was the only run at Audrey wherein the quest-goers got the 2nd old crone visit, and then the subsequent attack. To me, this means that they must've done something that future attempts didn't which would've triggered the old crone visit. What's more, from the looks of the records on the forum, it seems that all participants received the visit from the old crone, and then had their tentacles attempt an escape. This tells us that whatever triggers the crone visit is not done on an individual level, it must a condition that's fulfilled by the actions of the server at large. If it were an individual trigger to get the second crone visit, and then the tentacle escape, there would've been players who missed out in 2014.

As to what does trigger the message, that's the piece of the puzzle we're missing at the moment. I think it's pretty probable that feeding Audrey is what we need to do to solve this. 2014, by the looks of the forum records, didn't do all that much different from us. The main difference seemed to be scale; more people interested meant more people sending. As well as that, less information meant more people sending at the heart, as opposed to nowadays where the moment Audrey wakes, we spam at the temples instead. I myself sent over 100 missions from my quest city in December 2023. Nothing happened.

 There's also this message from the 2nd crone visit, which no player has received in nearly 10 years.
"The Horror has stirred; and the fools continue to feed it - making your task ahead more arduous"
 
This, to me is a key indicator that a second requirement must be met in order to advance in the quest. We've stirred the Horror plenty of times over the last few years, but we've forgotten that the only attempt in which the quest advanced was the one in which the fools continued to feed it. We've been struggling to figure out how to receive this message and advance the quest all these years, but it tells us itself: "the fools continue to feed it". If we were not fools who continued to feed it, why would we ever get such a message?

The specifics of this second requirement are completely unknown, but for the reasons above we have strong reason to believe that:
A: We need to sacrifice to Audrey not just to wake her, but also after she's woken up.
B: We need to send units in bulk to the heart.
C: We need to do this on a server-wide scale.

I agree that it's good to send massive amounts of units at Audrey from the quest cities themselves, but think it's more likely that the condition we need to fulfill will be a more general "x amounts of units sent to heart" requirement, similar to the requirement to waking her up.

Once December comes, we all need to start sending at Audrey like there's no tomorrow, whether it's from the quest city or not, and not stop sending until we get that message.









Posted By: Jadefae
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2024 at 17:19
Could part of the problem be that people now send stuff one at a time to get the tentacles and that they are not always troops? Whereas before I would guess that it was troops being sent.

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Posted By: Tensmoor
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2024 at 22:27
Please correct me if I'm wrong in any of these assumptions.
  • You do not need to have completed any of the earlier steps to send troops to awaken Audrey.
  • Send only troops to her once has awakened.
  • Send as many troops as you can each time.
If these assumtions are correct it means that any player regardless of size can make a contribution to trying to allow those at the necessary stage of the mystery to repeat the earlier sucess in getting the second crone visit.

I am still a very long way from having all the crafting research done anywhere but If I can assist others by sending troops then I can hopefully assist in solving the puzzle.


Posted By: Remy
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2024 at 00:02
Yep that's exactly right Tens. Diplos might also work as well as troops, we send as much as possible.
As for sending to the temples, I doubt it'll hurt at all, but don't think it's the key to the quest.
That said, it's certainly not useless. Each individual mil/diplo/trade order sent to the temples gives a 5% chance of yielding a tentacle once the melders reach your city, so its good to farm tentacles too so that more players can give it a shot once they're ready :D 

The important thing to advance the quest though, I think, is to send as much as possible to the heart itself even after Audrey's woken. Especially after Audrey's woken. 


Posted By: Freyja.
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2024 at 12:57
Remy has a great idea that we can test. And that's what we are doing. 

We are going to wake up Audrey in December, and players doing the quest need to contribute to feeding her, and also continue to feed her after she is awake. 

This is from the 2nd old crone visit, that happened in 2014 while Audrey was beating ...

"The Horror has stirred; and the fools continue to feed it - making your task ahead more arduous. You've spoken with the Ancient Dwarven warriors, and you've made your choice to stand in opposition.

Once it is sated, the next phase will begin.

Okay, so when Audrey woke up in 2014, those few players got another visit from the old crone. Audrey was awake, but the old crone says, "once it is sated." Seems like Audrey was awake, but not sated yet. She needs more food. The idea to keep feeding her makes sense and is worth trying out.

The plan for this year's quest attempt is to feed Audrey in December, then continue to feed her after she is awake.

I need players who want to try the quest, and will follow the plan and instructions. Email me if interested. Players will need to feed Audrey to wake her up, then continue to feed Audrey while she is beating, and keep a record of units sent AND share the information.

We can only solve this quest if we keep track of stuff and share the information. I need all of you wonderful people to help with this, and with feeding Audrey, and with helping your friends defend their towns when the time comes.

Recap:

  • Do NOT feed Audrey now

  • Feed Audrey in December

  • Keep feeding Audrey when she wakes up

  • Do NOT send to the temples to try and get corrupted tentacles

  • Record what you send and share the information

  • Email me with any questions/ideas/whatever



Posted By: Freyja.
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2024 at 23:27
Okay, so Audrey is about to be woken up, like any day now. 

We are sticking with the plan for December. If you want to attempt the quest, wait for December, build lots of troops so you can feed Audrey, do the fortune teller/old crone/Duraz Karag steps, and make a plan to defend your city. 


Posted By: Freyja.
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2024 at 16:13

Update:

Players who are attempting the quest need to get the steps done before December. Send spies to the Fortune Teller, wait for the old crone to visit, then send a messenger to Duraz Karag. This has to be done *before* Audrey wakes up.

Starting December 1, after the tourney is over, we are going to wake up Audrey.

When Audrey wakes up in December, we are going to continue to feed her, especially players doing the quest. We are not sending to the temples to get tentacles. We are feeding Audrey until she is "sated."

Get the steps done and build troops (for the tourney and/or feeding Audrey).  



Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2024 at 21:37
Anyone know if you need to 'redo' the steps if its been a while or if its permanent once you do the steps up to audrey beating? 


Posted By: Remy
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2024 at 21:40
Freyja might be able to give a better answer, but to me it seems that there’s no way of knowing, since the last time anyone got the “The horror has stirred, and the fools continue to feed it” message was ten years ago

So hopefully we’ll get info on that after this attempt. Just need to make sure Audrey gets a few million troops fed to her after she starts beating. You know, “the fools continue to feed it” and all 


Posted By: Ordo
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2024 at 01:40
@ DeathDealer89 I was under the impression my town that tried last time couldn't participate. The Fortune Teller didn't seem to respond when I tried anything from there. So I will try again from scratch but with a different town.


Posted By: Freyja.
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2024 at 13:46
I made a post about re-doing the steps, and we don't know how. I'm using a different town this time. 

http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/how-to-reset-the-audrey-quest_topic11141.html" rel="nofollow - https://forum.illyriad.co.uk/how-to-reset-the-audrey-quest_topic11141.html

In the 1st town I tried with last year, I tried to redo the steps. I got the fortune teller message, but the old crone never visited. I sent a messenger to Duraz Karag anyway, and got the normal message, not the one for the quest. 

I wish we know more about this part. 



Posted By: Remy
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2024 at 22:58
RatCo. will be pledging at least 1 million XP to the feeding of Audrey. Be it to awaken her, or to sate her appetite after she has started beating.

Remember, it's not enough to just feed her until she wakes up. We need to feed her after she wakes too. However many millions it takes to receive the message we need to advance with the quest, the message we haven't received since 2014:

"The horror has stirred, and the fools continue to feed it..."


Posted By: Remy
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2024 at 11:16
2 weeks out until go time! 

Remember, for anyone who wants to help solve the quest, here are the steps:

  • Wait until the start of December 
  • Send as many troops as you can at the Heart of Corruption. Scouts, Cavalry, Spears, everything. Every little helps, if you can only spare a few thousand, send a few thousand.
  • Keep sending, even after Audrey wakes. We don’t stop until we get the system message telling us that the Horror has stirred, and we have continued to feed it. 
  • Send at the Heart. That is where your sacrifices matter. Troops by the millions need to be sacrificed to the Heart once Audrey wakes. Not the temples.
I sent a mail out to leaders of all the alliances I could think of with more detail. If anyone hasn’t received it and wants it, message me on Remy/Skreech Verminking.

For anyone worried that their troops won’t make it to the Heart on time to be sacrificed, Audrey beats for around 2-3 weeks iirc, so you have time. Could also send at the end of November, but still you shouldn’t have problems if you send your armies shortly after she starts beating. 


Posted By: Dungshoveleux
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2024 at 21:42
I tend to specialise in spamming the temples once the heart starts beating. There are limits to the number of diplomatic missions at any one time BECAUSE people were sending 1,000's of cheap scouts one at a time. Only one tentacle ever drops when you send units (trade/diplo/military to the temples. No-one sends armies to the temples. Armies to the heart only. Human and Elf tentacles are common. Dwarf less so. Orc tentacles are rare. I will trade tentacles on a 1:1 ratio except Orc tentacles which are worth 2 dwarf tentacles. Once units are transformed, they slow down but they also no longer count to your diplomatic missions. Hence I always maintain a bunch sitting around so I can go to a city and send another 20. The drop rate, if I remember correctly, is around 5%+/-. If you work on minimising the keystrokes you can send around 10 per minute. In the old days, the server almost "exploded" as the number of diplomatic missions went into overload.


Posted By: Remy
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2024 at 22:39
Yeah, cheap missions to the temples are what we do to get tentacles. 

Large amounts of troops are what we send to the Heart of Darkness in order to advance and solve the quest. That is the important part, there is no use to tentacles whatsoever if we're not going to solve the quest. Again, we need to send troops to the Heart of Darkness while Audrey is beating. Any armies/diplos sacrificed to the Heart are very very helpful! 

as a tip for people farming tentacles, you can use caravans. Has to be on an order to send resources 


Posted By: Dungshoveleux
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2024 at 22:51
Just send one empty caravan... 70 of them x 10 cites = 35 tentacles approximately.


Posted By: Freyja.
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2024 at 09:05

It's go time! Feed Audrey! and do not stop!

Feed Audrey until she wakes up and do NOT stop feeding her. Feed Audrey even after she wakes up. Feed her until she is "sated." No, we don't know what "sated" means, but it is what we are trying to figure out.

If you want to attempt the quest, but haven't done the steps yet, you might not have time to get the steps done. Maybe wait for the next attempt. The messenger has to get to Duraz Karag before Audrey wakes up, and she could wake up any day now.

Everyone attempting the quest should have the steps done - spies to the Fortune Teller, old crone visit, and messenger to Duraz Karag.

Audrey will eat everything and anything, so you can send armies or diplomats. Send directly to the Heart of Corruption (Audrey), and not to the temples. This is about the quest, and not about trying to get corrupted tentacles by sending to the temples. Getting corrupted tentacles is a separate event, and requires a separate conversation.

For questions, post here or email me or Remy. 



Posted By: Remy
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2024 at 15:50
We're live

04/12/2024
[15:42]<System> ** News flash: The Circle of Five report the sudden appearance of an unnatural undercurrent in the magics of Illyria.


Now we need to keep sending. As many units as possible need to be sent directly to the heart, right here: https://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map/-994/-824" rel="nofollow - https://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map/-994/-824

We get enough millions to her, and we will solve this quest once and for all.

For 10 years we've woken her, then kicked back and waited only for nothing to happen. We need to change that now. We've stirred the horror, now we need to be the fools who continue to feed it.


Posted By: Rikkos
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2024 at 21:52
Now we have the first new moon after Audrey stopped beating. Nothing happening or has happened.
Has the effort failed? Confused


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Illy playername: Tamerlane. Used to play as Rikkos


Posted By: Othello
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2025 at 07:52
Hello,
I think after an Audrey attempt is before the next one and as the last attempt didn't work, we might already start to think about what we can make differently at the next one.
At first I have to say that Remy's idea sounds still very clever and it could be possible, that we just sent too few troops. Or rather not the right ones, because the whole attempt was based on the assumption, that feeding the beating heart would work the same way as feeding the growing heart. So one idea for the next attempt could be to send a bigger variety of troops and armies to the heart: Maybe she only eats t2 troops, or only commander xp is counting or we have to feed her all different kind of troops, or maybe there is 0.5% chance to trigger the second crone visit per army and so we should send more smaller armies.
I know that this procedure would have one big disantvantage. If it works, we won't know why it has worked, but at the moment it's the best idea, that I have. If someone has a better one, feel free to share it.
And I have also a question: Were there already attempts that tried to send unit to the right and the left tendril? It seems interesting that the tiles have names, but maybe they get important in a later step of the quest ...

Hopefully not too many of you have lost hope of solving audrey because this promising approach didn't work on the first try. A new era of audrey attempts has only just begun.


Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2025 at 00:34
I did launch diplos to squares other than the HOC itself, the surrounding 8 as well as a few to every corrupted square.  Admittedly they were diplo units instead of military and were small in number instead of large but no indication of anything different.  

Only thing I can think of would be to feed until it beats and then stop.  Since it says 'fools continue to feed it' perhaps the key is to not feed it at all.  I'm guessing everyone tried sending stuff all over as well as to the temples.  Was anyone ready to do the quest and was just gone in Dec and ended up not sending anything? 


Posted By: Wartow
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2025 at 00:21
I tried scattering diplos around the map at various sites during the recent activity.  This included Duraz Karag, the Temple of Reason, Misted Lands, and the Fortress of Shadows and did not notice anything new.

Other thoughts at this time:

-- Hit the fortune teller every chance you get.  I am now a conspiracy theorist that believes there exists logical errors in code of the game that is causing the Old Crone not to follow up as she has promised or the tentacles to escape upon failure.  A few extra missions from the Crone may shake things out or expose the problem to the awareness of the developers?

-- Avoid trying to collect tentacles from the Broken Lands.  Could it be possible that these long walks mess up the timing of the escaping tentacles or "swift and ruinous" attack?  The Audrey quest was created before the BL was introduced and these extra long walks of the corrupted forces may be causing a problem?

Grind on my friends.


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Posted By: Morgweneth
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2025 at 12:30
I think we need some positive input from the devs as this has been going on an age, in game time and a lot of people have suggested the quest/coding is broken. I just mist out on the attempt when tentacles were stolen and corrupt squares appeared next to their cities, but I like many followed the known steps and got nowhere, and since then nothing really has changed. 
It’s great there is new interest and action but I feel the community has been left in the dark with no clues for too long. 


Posted By: Wartow
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2025 at 14:27
I think there have been clues, just very subtle ones... for example, the vault was given capacity to store resources, minimal as that is, I believe it to be an incentive for someone to "accidently" have a vault with the tentacles to retain them from escaping.

I share in your frustration... a clear sign of failure or reset would be beneficial to restart the quest in a city or to know with certainty that the quest can never be completed in a city once one has failed.  It is the purgatory of not knowing that disincentivizes further efforts.


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