Hear ye Hear ye! BayNights is here to deliver an announcement in Tallimar Town Square!

*Clears throat

Greetings my fellow citizens of Illyriad! Extraordinary times require exceptional communications, and we, as members of the greatest continent (Elgea), all know GC is not that tool.

This brings us to our matters at hand. Falln has found itself at odds with an alliance of Elgean associates. Many of us have known one another for years. As a member of Falln, I accept Ascn’s grievances - some of them justified and some of them not. I am here today to personally apologize for past transgressions against select members of Ascn. While we have enjoyed our occasional playful sparring, we would like to be clear of our future intentions.

We as Falln, and me as BayNights, would like to move forward in peace and are publicly announcing a complete cease fire from our members, one which started on 3.13.21. This cease fire from Falln will persist unless attacks continue on our cities (we have reason to believe further escalations from Ascn on our members is imminent). It is often easy to mix messages in Illyriad politics, so our message is in writing publicly and clear. If Ascn chooses to accept our peace offer, their members and associates will have uninterrupted peace now and in the future. In a show of further proof of our intent, we are offering a NAP publicly along with this statement.

While our message is one of peace, we would also like to clearly state our position. We have recorded each member of Ascn and their alts in and outside of the alliance as of 3.13.21. If a Falln city does find itself under aggression from our friends, each member of the alliance and their associated alt(s) will owe a debt, one which Falln will collect when and where it sees fit. We expect no future complaint from Ascn should they choose this path as an alliance, for we are stating it here along with our commitment to peace and a request for attacks on our cities to cease immediately. We have no issue with our Ascn neighbors, but if it is war they want, all members and cities will have it follow them.

Thank you my fellow citizens of mighty Illyriad. Your attention in times like these is of utmost importance and your discussion is most welcome among the lands.

BayNights

We appreciate the discussion. These are very long replies, and I don’t believe we need to go through 5 years of Illy history to arrive at the peaceful decision we are proposing if that’s what players would like. That being said, I will do my best to address some incorrect information and some points I feel need to be addressed.

BTW Baynights good PR stunt. I have been trying to reach out and solve the problem peacefully for past few months, but you never replied properly even in one occassion or was open to discussion.

Spektor reached out to propose peace directly to you on 3.8.21. Before then, we did not feel the situation had escalated to a point where peace talks were needed, and I have no communication from you on this matter (please send if so). 

Our members had moved on from past instances with terras and blocking our cities and were focused on operations against Tcol. Several million troops had marched to grom’s cities when Ascn decided to attack us in earnest.

Saints then joined g! , Baynights sieged Ryklaw which made him to quit the game.

Siege? Ryklaw did not lose a single city or even have a single cat land at his towns when he abandoned. He had a total of 1 city in Tallimar. Who abandons the game on the unwarranted fear of losing 1 city when you’ve played for years? Please provide something to support this claim, as it’s something you like to state to your members often.

when i noticed this i didn't like Baynights moving to usror so i objected and tried to block their town movements,

One of our members was kicked from BSH after grom decided to shut down the alliance, and shortly after was targeted in Kul Tar with sieges. We helped defeat Tcol’s siege attempts and he escaped to the north with all his cities for safety. Shortly after, Hath settled his cities nearby and started harassing and razing innocent members of Rum. We decided to support this player in razing Tcol out of the region. They sent more cities in response which we also promptly removed. During this time, you admittedly tried to stop our efforts by blocking our cities by creating multiple accounts and using inactive sat players. You inserted yourself and multiple accounts in a conflict you had no reason to be in. This was a conflict with Tcol, and it didn’t involve you.

However after Tcol was removed.. they sieged ncrow players who were allies to Ascn and forced to disband and merge with Ascn. 

Correct in that we sieged nCrow players due to their CDS land claim and association with Tcol. Our policy is simple and we have stated it, if you the player are plotting against us by aligning with enemies who have declared war against our members, there is no alliance to hide behind or false stories to protect you. We will raze your gold accounts (as they do not help the game), and we will treat you as the enemy (because you are). If you would not like this to happen, do not support or establish diplomatic ties to our enemies. This includes harboring their gold accounts.

After this they started attacking our players in stormstone

Correct, we decided as an alliance to claim Stormstone and to secure the territory of Trome with an allied team. It was apparent at this point that your actions could not be trusted and were supportive of Tcol. We would not allow towns this close to behave in this way.

After all these we still didn't attack their towns. 

You and certain members sent many attacks at this time, many directly at my cities from your cluster at long distances. Happy to share reports.

They started expanding into Qarro near our players

As is already obvious from above statements, our members were already there and experiencing aggression from mano and Hotattack, who were actively blocking and attempting to save Tcol.

we performed some diplo missions, for which they sieged another ascn town on Jan 15.

You used .azuk (again we have reports), an account that sits in nCrow but I understand was passed to your ownership by questionable means. .azuk diplo’d almost every single city in the north (some were caught) while our troops were again fighting Tcol in the desert. Yet again, Ascn leadership (we do not blame every member of Ascn for these actions as they are likely unaware of what you’re doing based on what you tell them) was actively targeting us during a war with Tcol to support the enemy.

In response to this they razed code's town in tallimar on 3rd March

Correct, I reached out to Hotattack at this time and asked him to cease hostilities (in igm). His response on 3.1.21 was “who is azuk?” and the attacks continued. We went forward with this operation as stated that we will target every single member if they choose to remain in Ascn and support your behavior.

while the negotiations were ongoing they still moved more towns in response to this, we attacked some of their towns and eliminated cavs and infantry.

Correct, you violated our peace talks by stating that “it was still being discussed” and surprise attacked our members. Your intentions are now clear, and your members will no longer be granted the trust that we showed you.

As far as other parties concerned Grom\Raps\Duran etc.. Most of you don't know what exactly happened and each one has an advantage depends on what happens here, but i would like to request you not to complicate the issue. 

Hahahaha… The issue has become quite complicated and will remain so. Ascn has violated diplomatic trust by abusing confed/nap status of EE (now dropped), Bunch (to send attacks), VTX (to claim sov and settle next to our cities to actively target our members), Plan (to again settle next to our cities) and nCrow (for mano to send attacks and cities from .azuk). I hope that each of these alliances actively reconsiders being used for war-like efforts against our members. Please consider dropping diplo ties to an alliance that chooses to abuse them. It will be remembered, and Falln often doesn’t forget.

Our allies are united in our goals and right now you are attempting to stand in the way of them. Asking them to not “complicate the issue” is really quite hilarious.

As I said this is a simple ego clash , where Baynights decided to attack Ascn because of the same.

No ego, I have proposed peace for your alliance members and have accepted responsibility where we can. We continue to propose peaceful options for Ascn while you “decide”.

There is no Ncrow left so good luck repairing the relationship

You cannot speak for the actual nCrow members (and .azuk doesn’t count, who continues to attack us). If nCrow members would like to connect, please reach out to us directly.

After all the stuff you did we didn't go out and complain\whine, here you are on public forum pulling a stunt just after one attack from us.  Asking for peace and while negotiations are going on still moving towns into the area in question.

The problem here is going to be trust because past few times we trusted you it didn't end well for our players.

Once again these are my personal views\ opinions on the issue and doesn't reflect Ascn. An official statement will be made once the decision has been reached after discussing with council and members.

It looks like your “discussions with council and members” is going well! It must be some discussion to take 3 weeks. Please continue to abuse our cease fire and proposed NAP by targeting our members, while saying that you can’t trust us.

Although we have extended our peace offer, we are starting to tire of your games. Your leadership is continuing to attack us and abuse our many offers. I trust that your discussions will end soon as this situation will not be endured for much longer.

If individual members of Ascn would like to reach out to discuss terms, please feel free. This is not the situation we were hoping for.

23 Mar 2021 15:02 - FW: Victorious defense by Promethee's forces at Fortress of Tarnost under attack by HotAttack's forces from Q Nancy c1 60 cav par 

23 Mar 2021 05:32 - FW: Failed defense by Promethee's forces at Fortress of Tarnost under attack by HotAttack's forces from Q Nancy c1 60 cav par

21 Mar 2021 06:51 - FW: Failed defense by Promethee's forces at Fortress of Tarnost under attack by Pure's forces from Shush Now

18 Mar 2021 12:06 - Failed defense by BayNights's forces at Cerberus under attack by .Azuk's forces from ..f.tdz42-Kissimmee