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Specialised equipment bonuses are sometimes wrong?

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Topic: Specialised equipment bonuses are sometimes wrong?

Posted By: Mist
Subject: Specialised equipment bonuses are sometimes wrong?
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 05:19

Very hard to decide what equipment to use when there is contradictory information on its benefits. Either the in-game pop-up descriptions of specialised equipment bonuses are sometimes wrong, or the spreadsheets players have created detailing the bonuses are sometimes wrong, or both!

An example of one of the spreadsheets: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1igU5wPTNAqoSCjPgoBf4F2UA_9NApBf109utZYdx0lc/edit?pli=1&pli=1#gid=0" rel="nofollow - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1igU5wPTNAqoSCjPgoBf4F2UA_9NApBf109utZYdx0lc/edit?pli=1&pli=1#gid=0

Examples of the discrepancies:

Hero's Bow vs Monsterous bonus: Pop-up 135%, Spreadsheet 27%

Plains Bow on Plains bonus: Pop-up 60%, Spreadsheet 12%

What is going on? What should we rely on?

Replies:

Posted By: DeathDealer89
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 05:34

Short answer is both. Some of the equipment doesn't work as specified while players are able to get close they can't see the math underneath. Sometimes it can be particularly troubling for things like anti-animal spears, because to prove it works or doesn't work you need to fight all the different types of animals.

Posted By: Mist
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 09:56

I assume the developers know that this part of the game is a bit broken? Are there any signs that this will be fixed?

On the examples I gave, do the actual bonuses tend to be closer to the pop-up or spreadsheet estimates? I'm assuming the spreadheets are more accurate as the only way to generate different data would have been to actually test the stuff in battles? Which would leave a lot of equipment as not nearly as interesting as it's supposed to be.

Posted By: Tensmoor
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2019 at 10:01

On that spreadsheet you linked to it does say that the stats still need to updated to the 2015 values Mist. Whether that only applies to the terrain modifiers or the equipment stats I don't know.

Posted By: Mist
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 03:49

Thanks for spotting that Tensmoor. Though it seems that leaves us even more in the dark about what the real bonus values are, unless an updated reference is lurking somewhere?

Developers, where are you?!

Posted By: Tensmoor
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2019 at 05:35

The only resource for that info that I know of is the in-game popups which is the source I used for the crafting tables at https://illystuff.uk/crafting/index.html" rel="nofollow - https://illystuff.uk/crafting/index.html

Tens

Posted By: Mist
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2019 at 02:10

But Tens in the instances where the pop-ups are wrong they are not a resource at all. And how do we know when they are wrong and when they are right? It's not just that they look like being a little bit wrong in places - it looks perhaps that they can be wildly wrong.