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hellion19 
Forum Warrior
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 Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 08:31 |
 Southern Dwarf wrote:
Then he may fight the war and I learn whatever Orcs learn. . . |
Silly dwarf... us orcs never learn  I thought Consone was a peace loving alliance I am not sure why you would fear being in VIC territory if you simply want to be peaceful there....
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Southern Dwarf
Forum Warrior
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 08:28 |
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Well I am supporting a great number of people with buffs be they in my guild or in other guilds. And leaving an alliance in which you were since the beginning is kind of funny because of that I am at the heart of Victrix territory. Leaving might well spell certain doom then.
I make another offer though - a guild exchance program. I get a month as a lonely dwarf between all those orcs and Rorgash gets my place in my guild. Then he may fight the war and I learn whatever Orcs learn. . .
Illy needs more democracy I think.
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Also known as Afaslizo ingame.
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hellion19
Forum Warrior
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 08:21 |
Southern Dwarf wrote:
Rorgash wrote:
Booo! Booooo! weaklings!!! Cowards! |
Well, I make you an offer. Since you like being in a war, we exchange positions. I will be able to return to peace and you will have the possibility to fight your war. |
As far as I know that offer is on the table for anyone as both sides have mentioned it as a means of getting out of the war. You simply have to stop supporting your guild by being in it and leave that particular guild. Otherwise when you are part of the guild that is in the war you support its position by being there whether you openly state it or not. The leaders don't give the guild itself their voice but the fact that there are 80+ members behind said leader (more or less) is what gives said leader their power. If you don't believe in the war your part of its best to leave the guild your in as thats the guilds position.
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Magnificence
Wordsmith
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 08:20 |
That sounds like a fair and excellent exchange.
Its just hard to see anyone as a hardened war monger when they have the word "pillow" clearly displayed in their signature.
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Southern Dwarf
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 08:13 |
Rorgash wrote:
Booo! Booooo! weaklings!!! Cowards! |
Well, I make you an offer. Since you like being in a war, we exchange positions. I will be able to return to peace and you will have the possibility to fight your war.
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Also known as Afaslizo ingame.
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deorasandeep
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Joined: 17 Sep 2012
Location: lucknow,india
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 07:56 |
hellion19 wrote:
@Auro
Thats all fine and good... but again it does require someone to speak for it or they will otherwise speak as individuals. Someone has to say while also having the actual authority to do so and say that this confed believes this "XXXXXXX" otherwise with no one able to do so then its EE says this "XXXXX", VIC says "XXXXX", etc.
Lets just say that EE feels compensation needs to be paid for this war to end (likely not their belief at this point just an example) while VIC states that they are done with it and no longer wish to fight. Absa feels they have been wronged after losing X cities and want to pay the opposing side back? Which route do you take? Would RHY/H?/etc side have to appease each of those... and if not who can make the decision for the course that the entire side makes?
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HATHALDIR
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 07:19 |
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Anyone from H? who has posted here, we extend olive branch, do you want to talk? Talk to J
PS i am not registered to H? embassy, don't need another window for this game.
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There's worse blokes than me!!
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hellion19
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 07:05 |
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@Auro
Thats all fine and good... but again it does require someone to speak for it or they will otherwise speak as individuals. Someone has to say while also having the actual authority to do so and say that this confed believes this "XXXXXXX" otherwise with no one able to do so then its EE says this "XXXXX", VIC says "XXXXX", etc.
Lets just say that EE feels compensation needs to be paid for this war to end (likely not their belief at this point just an example) while VIC states that they are done with it and no longer wish to fight. Absa feels they have been wronged after losing X cities and want to pay the opposing side back? Which route do you take? Would RHY/H?/etc side have to appease each of those... and if not who can make the decision for the course that the entire side makes?
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Aurordan
Postmaster
Player Council - Ambassador
Joined: 21 Sep 2011
Location: United States
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 06:58 |
hellion19 wrote:
It takes someone to speak for Consone in order to promise something from Consone. |
There's no reason they can't be represented by multiple people, or agree on terms among themselves.
hellion19 wrote:
Otherwise as they mentioned since all parts of Consone act as individuals then it would require each individual to actually make peace. |
There is absolutely no reason for this to be true. More than likely, what will happen will be that all alliances on both sides end up with the same peace. This is the logical outcome even if there was no direct confederacy, because nobody wants their friends left on the field.
hellion19 wrote:
This means that in order to make a peace agreement that everyone in Consone would have to speak for itself.
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Not at all. As I said, negotiations will almost certainly be collective.
hellion19 wrote:
Its hard to say Consone speaks as one group when its convenient then claim its not true when its not convenient. If you read TD's thread it tells you that is roughly how Consone operates (as individual alliances with a central defensive agreement)... means that each that declared war would also have to come to the conclusion to end said war also.
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I have no interest in searching for and reading every thread from this war front to back. It would drive me mad as a gnoll. As stated above, yes, Consone will likely act as a confederation and leave the war all together.
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The_Dude
Postmaster General
Joined: 06 Apr 2010
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Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 06:50 |
Aurordan wrote:
The_Dude wrote:
Consone had a chance to present a leader in the thread I started a couple of days ago. Consone explicitly rejected the concept of a leader.
Each consone alliance must now make its own peace with all opposing alliances individually.
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This makes no sense whatsoever. Because they don't have one single player leading them, they must not be able to coordinate even slightly? I get that they pissed you off somehow(all the angry faces made it hard to miss), but I don't think anyone's buying this. |
You don't need to buy anything Aurodan. This not something for sale. This is something that is happening.
^^^ not an angry face. 
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