Population Requirement to Found Alliance

Interesting that someone takes the fact that my mention of 1 group of players joining T? is someone forcing groups into training alliances.  No one forces anyone in this game to join any alliance.  The join or die isn't thought of well here in Illy.  I was only using them as an example.  Turn it into any kind of evil you want to make it.  I know the true  meaning of what was said.

I can see where people can be put off of Training alliances.  The number of them seem to be growing by leaps and bounds.  Now every large alliance wants their own training alliance.  I pride myself in T? being one that stays true to its beginning and continues to have players graduate to any alliance they wish to go to. (Yes, we have to MAKE some graduate even when they want to stay, if my officer positions are full.)

I just think that new players starting an alliance without forethought into what it requires on their part is going to make reality even harder when they are turned down for help in GC.  I don't like to see players suffer like that, but I also know I can't feed every alliance started by a new player that doesn't realize the repercussions of their actions. No one is asking me to, this I know.  Just hard for me to watch players struggle.  Just how I am. 

there is more harm in this than good. If a group of people come here, want to game together, we shouldn't force them to game inside another group to do that. Let them form an alliance and game together. The Illy community shouldn't be trying to force 'training alliances'* on anyone. This would be a huge turn off to new players / player groups imho.

Also, to address the concern more directly, if you think someone is asking for too much in GC, then don't send. Many of us find that helping someone with resources is a nice way to meet new people and make new friends in game. That includes helping people in other alliances. Sometimes I want to be the friendly guy who welcomes people to the game with gift packages. Others do too.

The game provides a built in function for you to screen these requests out of your chat - make use of the ignore button and you won't see any requests. In contrast, the game does not provide me with any function to filter in these requests. This would hurt my ability (and others as well) of meeting new people and new groups. - M.

(*like many I find 'training' alliances just propaganda hogwash in general - every alliance trains and near every training alliances acts like a normal alliance in the end - they just try to claim special privilege because of the label).

EDIT: Also note that almost every good review of Illyriad mentions the helpfulness of the Illy community toward new players. Don't damage that by putting superficial restriction on it or new players that join. Leave those of us who want to continue that helpfulness free to continue it with whoever we want. No restrictions.


Edited by Meagh - 28 Mar 2013 at 00:49

Brandmeister wrote: I recommend the direct method: take your complaint directly to the players you find objectionable. Begging and spamming don't happen that often in GC, and they can be stopped very quickly. Don't view it as an inconvenience, view it as an opportunity to engage with a new player and better integrate them into the community.

Edited by ES2 - 27 Mar 2013 at 19:33

GC has brought alot of this behaviour on itself.  If ppl who regularly use GC don't like new players using it too ask for res, simple don't offer it in the first place.  Secondly I see no problem with ppl using GC to issue invites for their alliance, I only use GC for this purpose, and I will continue too use it in this way.  I really cannot see the problem with new players forming alliances.